WWE Raw Discussion III

[Ruzious]

Didn't watch but read about it. Like how they're finally giving Buddy Murphy a push. He was hot in the summer with that Reigns match, and in typical wwe fashion, followed it up by doing nothing with him

Really, "the best kept secret" is that Black is the best in-ring performer in the WWE. Even while losing to him, Murphy's stock is going up - and all of their matches have been great. This feud has followed well Murphy's win over Daniel Brian.

[WRau1]

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[Ruzious]

Remember when it used to be popular to call Steen a joke of an athlete?

[The_Brecht]

The Truth-Brock segment was hilarious.

[improper]

Remember when it used to be popular to call Steen a joke of an athlete?

Anyone who said that has clearly never watched him. Dude might be fat, but he's a tremendous athlete and all you have to do is watch his matches to see it.

[The_Brecht]

I want R Truth to try a roll up on Lesnar and think that he won the Universal Title.

[Stanford]

Remember when it used to be popular to call Steen a joke of an athlete?

Did anyone really say that though?

[WRau1]

That Mysterio v Andrade ladder match was fantastic.

[The_Brecht]

They should've put the tag belts on AOP imo.

[Ruzious]

Remember when it used to be popular to call Steen a joke of an athlete?

Did anyone really say that though?

YES! When he was in the indies. Lol that people who follow wrestling so closely don't remember that.

[Stanford]

I certainly don't remember that being the popular opinion.

[Dominator83]

They actually put on a very good show last night. I agree it's kinda odd they didn't put the straps on AOP instead, but I like it anyway. This stable is good and its getting AOP and Murphy over.

[The_Brecht]

They actually put on a very good show last night. I agree it's kinda odd they didn't put the straps on AOP instead, but I like it anyway. This stable is good and its getting AOP and Murphy over.

Agreed.
It's amazing how fast Rollins got his messiah character in place.
A few weeks ago he was as boring a face wrestler can be.

Oh, I love Drew! I want him to main event Wrestlemania against Brock and actually win.
The countdown is completely over.

[Spens1]

Not sure who treats their tag team scene worse, WWE or New Japan to be honest. Not a fan of Rollin and Murphy picking up the tag team titles on their first night against a specialist team, should have gone straight on AOP to be honest with the idea that you have Murphy as US champ and Rollins as WWE Champ down the line.

Hopefully though we do see more stables, Owens, Joe and Viking Raiders is a good stable as well.

In all seriousness, surprisingly good show and more coherent than Smackdown mostly, Asuka kind of has to win the womens title at this point and its clear that Kairi is on her way out otherwise why would she lose that quickly to Lynch. Also Charlotte has to be a heel (i still say Face Bayley vs Heel Charlotte, and Face Becky vs Heel Sasha are the two combinations you want main eventing the shows).

[Ruzious]

I certainly don't remember that being the popular opinion.

When I have time, I'll find some examples and post them for you and Spens. One in particular that I remember was from an interview with Davey Richards - discussing how it was a waste of his talent to wrestle a non-athlete like Steen.

[Ruzious]

I certainly don't remember that being the popular opinion.

When I have time, I'll find some examples and post them for you and Spens. One in particular that I remember was from a shoot interview with Davey Richards - discussing how it was a waste of his talent to wrestle a non-athlete like Steen.

[tugs]

They actually put on a very good show last night. I agree it's kinda odd they didn't put the straps on AOP instead, but I like it anyway. This stable is good and its getting AOP and Murphy over.

Agreed.
It's amazing how fast Rollins got his messiah character in place.
A few weeks ago he was as boring a face wrestler can be.

Oh, I love Drew! I want him to main event Wrestlemania against Brock and actually win.
The countdown is completely over.

And his shirt is on point! What if he hands the titles to AOP and aims the Cruiserweight for Buddy?

[Dominator83]

Not sure who treats their tag team scene worse, WWE or New Japan to be honest. Not a fan of Rollin and Murphy picking up the tag team titles on their first night against a specialist team, should have gone straight on AOP to be honest with the idea that you have Murphy as US champ and Rollins as WWE Champ down the line.

Hopefully though we do see more stables, Owens, Joe and Viking Raiders is a good stable as well.

In all seriousness, surprisingly good show and more coherent than Smackdown mostly, Asuka kind of has to win the womens title at this point and its clear that Kairi is on her way out otherwise why would she lose that quickly to Lynch. Also Charlotte has to be a heel (i still say Face Bayley vs Heel Charlotte, and Face Becky vs Heel Sasha are the two combinations you want main eventing the shows).

Maybe Rollins just wanted to up his count and get closer to the record for most tag team belts with different guys. That makes it:
Reigns
Dean
Jason Jordan
Braun
Buddy

Without looking anything up and doing research, I imagine the Miz has him beat, but thats probably it

[LLJ]

Not sure who treats their tag team scene worse, WWE or New Japan to be honest. Not a fan of Rollin and Murphy picking up the tag team titles on their first night against a specialist team, should have gone straight on AOP to be honest with the idea that you have Murphy as US champ and Rollins as WWE Champ down the line.

Hopefully though we do see more stables, Owens, Joe and Viking Raiders is a good stable as well.

In all seriousness, surprisingly good show and more coherent than Smackdown mostly, Asuka kind of has to win the womens title at this point and its clear that Kairi is on her way out otherwise why would she lose that quickly to Lynch. Also Charlotte has to be a heel (i still say Face Bayley vs Heel Charlotte, and Face Becky vs Heel Sasha are the two combinations you want main eventing the shows).

Rollins is spinning his wheels since dropping the belt. I'm not exactly sure him dropping it at Crown Jewel was the plan before his feud with The Fiend, so now they are trying to cobble something up.

It feels clear to me Asuka is losing to Lynch at RR, unless they do a short hot potato thing to fill the time between now and Wrestlemania. Shayna is likely winning the RR and facing Becky at WM36.

As far as Kairi is concerned, this is her first match back since the concussion and she's always been presented as the weaker of the duo so her losing to Lynch in short time doesn't mean much. Though I wouldn't be surprised if the the rumors of Kairi and Io still keeping in touch with Stardom and Bushiroad has made the WWE gunshy on their pushes (Io really should have won the NXT title by now)

[Mich3006]

Not sure who treats their tag team scene worse, WWE or New Japan to be honest. Not a fan of Rollin and Murphy picking up the tag team titles on their first night against a specialist team, should have gone straight on AOP to be honest with the idea that you have Murphy as US champ and Rollins as WWE Champ down the line.

Hopefully though we do see more stables, Owens, Joe and Viking Raiders is a good stable as well.

I guess we will see a tag team title match Rollins/Murphy vs Owens/Joe at Fastlane (that´s why they didn´t put the titles on AOP).