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Re: Temetrius "Ja" Morant 

Post#421 » by bwgood77 » Tue Apr 9, 2019 10:56 pm

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bwgood77 wrote:I do wonder mostly about his level of competition. Isaiah Canaan went to Murray St as well and was two time OVC player of the year. I saw enough of Canaan over the last couple of years.

Then you have Cameron Payne who was also OVC POY like Morant, and had pretty good stats...not quite at Morant level, but better in some areas like only half the turnovers (and about 70% the assists), more steals, better 3 pt shooting..

http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=ja-morant--cameron-payne

Though I guess Curry played a similar level of competition, as did Lillard and McCollum, though they were/are all elite shooters, even off the dribble.


tourney play against Marquette and Florida St. didn't alleviate those concerns for u?


Marquette did quite a bit but then he didn't play so well againt Florida St outside of his 3 pt shooting. Outside of his 3s, he shot 3-15 from the field and had 4 ast and 2 turnovers and they got beat by nearly 30. I figured FSU would be quite a test because they were a legit team, much more so than Marquette but they brought the concerns back a little bit.
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Re: Temetrius "Ja" Morant 

Post#422 » by No-Man » Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:01 am

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bwgood77 wrote:I do wonder mostly about his level of competition. Isaiah Canaan went to Murray St as well and was two time OVC player of the year. I saw enough of Canaan over the last couple of years.

Then you have Cameron Payne who was also OVC POY like Morant, and had pretty good stats...not quite at Morant level, but better in some areas like only half the turnovers (and about 70% the assists), more steals, better 3 pt shooting..

http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=ja-morant--cameron-payne

Though I guess Curry played a similar level of competition, as did Lillard and McCollum, though they were/are all elite shooters, even off the dribble.


tourney play against Marquette and Florida St. didn't alleviate those concerns for u?

Marquette? are you serious? :lol: :lol: :lol:

And he was bad in a pretty obvious way against FSU
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Re: Temetrius "Ja" Morant 

Post#423 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:39 am

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clyde21 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:I do wonder mostly about his level of competition. Isaiah Canaan went to Murray St as well and was two time OVC player of the year. I saw enough of Canaan over the last couple of years.

Then you have Cameron Payne who was also OVC POY like Morant, and had pretty good stats...not quite at Morant level, but better in some areas like only half the turnovers (and about 70% the assists), more steals, better 3 pt shooting..

http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=ja-morant--cameron-payne

Though I guess Curry played a similar level of competition, as did Lillard and McCollum, though they were/are all elite shooters, even off the dribble.


tourney play against Marquette and Florida St. didn't alleviate those concerns for u?

Marquette? are you serious? :lol: :lol: :lol:

And he was bad in a pretty obvious way against FSU


The 5 seed in the tournament with their own elite college point is a laughing matter? Hyperbolic much?

He played just fine against FSU. If you thought he was bad, you must think Culver and Barrett are undraftable at this point after some of their tournament games.
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Re: Temetrius "Ja" Morant 

Post#424 » by No-Man » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:43 am

Marquette is a trash defensive team, judging Morant for their performance against them it's ridiculous

also calling Markus Howard a point Guard is kinda generous, can barely dribble
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Re: Temetrius "Ja" Morant 

Post#425 » by clyde21 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:08 pm

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clyde21 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:I do wonder mostly about his level of competition. Isaiah Canaan went to Murray St as well and was two time OVC player of the year. I saw enough of Canaan over the last couple of years.

Then you have Cameron Payne who was also OVC POY like Morant, and had pretty good stats...not quite at Morant level, but better in some areas like only half the turnovers (and about 70% the assists), more steals, better 3 pt shooting..

http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=ja-morant--cameron-payne

Though I guess Curry played a similar level of competition, as did Lillard and McCollum, though they were/are all elite shooters, even off the dribble.


tourney play against Marquette and Florida St. didn't alleviate those concerns for u?

Marquette? are you serious? :lol: :lol: :lol:

And he was bad in a pretty obvious way against FSU


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Re: Temetrius "Ja" Morant 

Post#426 » by Funcrusher » Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:26 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Fischella wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
tourney play against Marquette and Florida St. didn't alleviate those concerns for u?

Marquette? are you serious? :lol: :lol: :lol:

And he was bad in a pretty obvious way against FSU


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Re: Temetrius "Ja" Morant 

Post#427 » by Ruzious » Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:43 pm

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Fischella wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
tourney play against Marquette and Florida St. didn't alleviate those concerns for u?

Marquette? are you serious? :lol: :lol: :lol:

And he was bad in a pretty obvious way against FSU


The 5 seed in the tournament with their own elite college point is a laughing matter? Hyperbolic much?

He played just fine against FSU. If you thought he was bad, you must think Culver and Barrett are undraftable at this point after some of their tournament games.

He kept them in the game as long as humanly possible against Florida State. That was a case of Florida State being on a much higher level than the rest of the Murray State team.

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Re: Temetrius "Ja" Morant 

Post#428 » by Stillwater » Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:13 pm

Ja is a rare breed of guard and for that alone he is highly coveted by all nba teams even ones with good pg's. he has the makings of being a top 50 player in the league his rookie season,and outside of Zion who else can say that?
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Re: Temetrius "Ja" Morant 

Post#429 » by TheSuzerain » Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:15 pm

Stillwater wrote:Ja is a rare breed of guard and for that alone he is highly coveted by all nba teams even ones with good pg's. he has the makings of being a top 50 player in the league his rookie season,and outside of Zion who else can say that?

No chance he's that good in year 1. Absolutely zero.
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Re: Temetrius "Ja" Morant 

Post#430 » by Stillwater » Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:10 pm

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Stillwater wrote:Ja is a rare breed of guard and for that alone he is highly coveted by all nba teams even ones with good pg's. he has the makings of being a top 50 player in the league his rookie season,and outside of Zion who else can say that?

No chance he's that good in year 1. Absolutely zero.

no chance? based on what ?espn bs rankings :lol: He already is a top 50 nba player and he hasn't played a single game yet.
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Re: Temetrius "Ja" Morant 

Post#431 » by Coeur » Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:59 am

Suns working on “winning” that #2 pick

I love the fit. They wouldn’t really take him at 1 or trade down for Ja imo. I think they just say it because the lottery might not be random
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Re: Temetrius "Ja" Morant 

Post#432 » by reignfire » Wed May 15, 2019 2:40 am

Wait, Ja Morant is a second year player?

Well that's changes my thoughts on him a lot. He's still a solid prospect but I'm looking at his first year in judging him not his second.

This draft seems like a crap shoot after Zion.
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Re: Temetrius "Ja" Morant 

Post#433 » by clyde21 » Wed May 15, 2019 3:01 am

reignfire wrote:Wait, Ja Morant is a second year player?

Well that's changes my thoughts on him a lot. He's still a solid prospect but I'm looking at his first year in judging him not his second.

This draft seems like a crap shoot after Zion.


he's a sophomore but he's freshmen aged
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Re: Temetrius "Ja" Morant 

Post#434 » by NotMyKawhi » Wed May 15, 2019 5:04 am

If RJ was in his 2nd year at Murry State he'd average 40
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Re: Temetrius "Ja" Morant 

Post#435 » by azcatz11 » Thu May 16, 2019 3:40 am

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clyde21 wrote:
Fischella wrote:Marquette? are you serious? :lol: :lol: :lol:

And he was bad in a pretty obvious way against FSU


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Re: Temetrius "Ja" Morant 

Post#436 » by madmaxmedia » Thu May 16, 2019 7:14 pm

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doordoor123 wrote:This isn’t a good sign that there aren’t enough players at the top so we’re looking for players to go into it. Morant is going to be a top 10 pick because this draft is weak. There are literally no point guards in this draft, it would make no sense for him not to come out.

I know I opened the thread when nobody knew about they guy and I still like Morant but he is gonna get drafted like 15-20 spots too high, still a great story and find to get a 2 star guy that has a chance to be a NBA rotation player, but I am out on him as a high level prospect


This thread has aged much better than my LiAngelo Ball draft thread. :lol:
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Re: Temetrius "Ja" Morant 

Post#437 » by doordoor123 » Fri May 17, 2019 6:47 pm

madmaxmedia wrote:
Fischella wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:This isn’t a good sign that there aren’t enough players at the top so we’re looking for players to go into it. Morant is going to be a top 10 pick because this draft is weak. There are literally no point guards in this draft, it would make no sense for him not to come out.

I know I opened the thread when nobody knew about they guy and I still like Morant but he is gonna get drafted like 15-20 spots too high, still a great story and find to get a 2 star guy that has a chance to be a NBA rotation player, but I am out on him as a high level prospect


This thread has aged much better than my LiAngelo Ball draft thread. :lol:


Not really, Morant still has his issues, but time passes and things change. Deciding Morant is a top 3 pick back then is like a 1 in 20 chance. And if you look at more than one post, there are reasons why our opinions have changed.
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Re: Temetrius "Ja" Morant 

Post#438 » by jman3134 » Fri May 17, 2019 6:53 pm

What issues?
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Re: Temetrius "Ja" Morant 

Post#439 » by clyde21 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:41 pm

so I was clearly lower on this guy that I should've been (had him 6th IIRC)...definitely should have been higher on his combination of athleticism, motor and handles/playmaking
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Re: Temetrius "Ja" Morant 

Post#440 » by mattg » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:00 pm

I mean Morant is clearly doing better than anyone expected, however he is definitely shooting an unsustainable percentage from 3 and I think it’s obvious that will come down over time. The 2nd half of the year will be interesting.

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