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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1921 » by 100proof » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:27 pm

klemen4 wrote:It's either Hayward or Smart+filler...only those 2 options can give us a great starting C in a trade...now at trade deadline or in summer.

I still think due to his contract and age...Hayward should be traded for C.

Hayward for M.Turner+filler

Maybe Indy would bite if we included Romeo OR Mem pick.

I know it's a lot, but...


Turner, lamb, mcdermott
For
Hayward, semi, poirier and memphis and bucks pick.

I do that trade.
Grt team usa starting lineup, get 2 guys used to playing with each other off the bench, 1 of whom os familiar with kemba

Kemba/wannamaker
Smart/lamb
Brown/McDermott
Tatum/theis
Turner/kanter

Edwards/langford/grant/robert/ green asdeep bench
Waters/fall 2 ways.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1922 » by scottyg » Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:27 pm

Still think they should do a 3 way trade with Hayward for hortford and filler somebody like NO would work I would think

Celtics get -
- Al Horford
- Etwan Moore
-

Pelicans get -
- Gordon Hayward
- Semi Ojeyele
- 2020 1st rd pick via Bos ( protected top 18 ) or
Couple 2nd rd picks ( depends on what each team says )
- some 2nd rd picks via philly

Sixers get -
- Derek Favors
- JJ redick
- Carson Edwards
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1923 » by jfs1000d » Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:48 pm

Floody100 wrote:
batabatuta wrote:We should just get rid of Hayward. It's like we are living on a false hope that he will be what he once was. That train has left. His passiveness is hurting the team when he is expected to be an alpha. Now he is just more of a facilitator than a second scoring option.

Smart for all his grit, defense and leadership gets overshadowed by his bricks. We deserve better. Trade him. We need scorers...badly.


Looked pretty good to me today tbh.


The only guy who you would consider is Smart. But that does hurt us immensely.

Hayward? We need his scoring. He is a very good player having a good year.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1924 » by TheOGJabroni » Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:50 pm

Saw a C's fan on the trade board suggest:

In:
WCS & Alec Burks

Out:
Poirier, Edwards & MIL 1st

I would personally prefer Looney to WCS, if possible, but I would be intrigued either way. What are other people's thoughts?
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1925 » by Andrew McCeltic » Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:31 pm

CsBsSoxPhins wrote:Saw a C's fan on the trade board suggest:

In:
WCS & Alec Burks

Out:
Poirier, Edwards & MIL 1st

I would personally prefer Looney to WCS, if possible, but I would be intrigued either way. What are other people's thoughts?


Not sure WCS really helps us or "fits". Burks is interesting. But why use Edwards and a MIL 1st?

The FO would be in the best position to judge, but I haven't seen anything yet from Edwards to suggest we should move on from him. They gave him a first-round contract, he's shown talent in summer league and in the regular season. Is he slumping, struggling to learn how to play up to NBA size and physicality, or is there some fatal flaw or limit in his game?
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1926 » by ANGT4T » Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:00 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
ANGT4T wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=tgvtq92

Add pick as necessary


Rules prohibit us from re-acquiring Baynes via trade for one year after the date we dealt him.


My bad, I should try reading the thread before posting!
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Post#1927 » by CelticFaninLBC » Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:30 pm

They should build around the Tatum and Brown, but getting a center will be costly, and the MEM pick probably doesn't have a lot of value now with MEM playing so well...

Turner, McDermott, J. Holiday
for
Hayward, Langford, Edwards, MEM pick.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1928 » by Celtics1918 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:03 pm

I think By trading for Clint Capela will make us legit title contender this year he matches up salary wise and signed 4 more years with out trading GH MS. Houston is falling apart right now.

Clint Capela for Enes Kanter, Romeo Langford, Vincent Poirier and any draft picks to make this a fair trade for both sides. espn trade machine successful!
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1929 » by Dannyboy36 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:05 pm

batabatuta wrote:We should just get rid of Hayward. It's like we are living on a false hope that he will be what he once was. That train has left. His passiveness is hurting the team when he is expected to be an alpha. Now he is just more of a facilitator than a second scoring option.

Smart for all his grit, defense and leadership gets overshadowed by his bricks. We deserve better. Trade him. We need scorers...badly.


Yeah I wouldn’t be sad to see Smart go. My take on Hayward is he should clearly be ahead in touches than Tatum and Brown but I’m not sure brown would take to being #4 and I definitely don’t think Tatum would take to being behind Hayward even though he should be THIS year. I think Hayward steps back because he’s trying to make this work and he’s unselfish. Brad doesn’t have the guts to put the other guys behind him In the pecking order. It’s left up to the players yet again.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1930 » by Dannyboy36 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:07 pm

Celtics1918 wrote:I think By trading for Clint Capela will make us legit title contender this year he matches up salary wise and signed 4 more years with out trading GH MS. Houston is falling apart right now.

Clint Capela for Enes Kanter, Romeo Langford, Vincent Poirier and any draft picks to make this a fear trade for both sides. espn trade machine successful!


Wouldn’t the Rockets be giving up on this season with that deal though? I don’t know why the Rockets make that one. If they were inclined to trade Capela I think they could do a lot better. ( just my opinion)
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1931 » by GoGreen » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:37 pm

Truth is i don't think there's a trade out there that will make this team markedly better. There may be pieces avbl, but Danny never just trades for bench pieces. The best chance at a title is to either hope the Jays develop into something special, or sign Giannis in 2021.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1932 » by 100proof » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:44 pm

GoGreen wrote:Truth is i don't think there's a trade out there that will make this team markedly better. There may be pieces avbl, but Danny never just trades for bench pieces. The best chance at a title is to either hope the Jays develop into something special, or sign Giannis in 2021.


Turner, lamb and mcd for hayward, poirier, semi and picks does.

Hayward fits brilliantly at sf for that roster.
Turner give us team usa on the court while give a tremendous bolster to the bench. (And more tradeable assets should need arise.

I would put a lineup of kemba/smart/brown/tatum/turner against any team in the league. Stoppers and unselfish team players at every position (kemba not a stopper but an excellent team defender)
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1933 » by Dannyboy36 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:51 pm

100proof wrote:
GoGreen wrote:Truth is i don't think there's a trade out there that will make this team markedly better. There may be pieces avbl, but Danny never just trades for bench pieces. The best chance at a title is to either hope the Jays develop into something special, or sign Giannis in 2021.


Turner, lamb and mcd for hayward, poirier, semi and picks does.

Hayward fits brilliantly at sf for that roster.
Turner give us team usa on the court while give a tremendous bolster to the bench. (And more tradeable assets should need arise.

I would put a lineup of kemba/smart/brown/tatum/turner against any team in the league. Stoppers and unselfish team players at every position (kemba not a stopper but an excellent team defender)


Turner is the one guy I don’t think is nuts as far as big men. He’s had a down year but a lot to do with Sabonis for sure. I’m a little afraid of his effort level but he fits what we do. I’d disagree in that I think Smart and Tatum are selfish players. But again, this is on Brad in my opinion. ( and it’s also an opinion that most don’t agree with anyways) . I don’t think that team contends for the title only because I don’t think there would be enough facilitating for each other but I agree that’s a talented 5. I’d hope they would look to find someone to get Smart back on the bench.
The pacers though? Wow . Lookout
Hayward
Sabonis
Brogdon
Oladipo. Talk about 4 unselfish players.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1934 » by ddb » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:51 pm

CsBsSoxPhins wrote:Saw a C's fan on the trade board suggest:

In:
WCS & Alec Burks

Out:
Poirier, Edwards & MIL 1st

I would personally prefer Looney to WCS, if possible, but I would be intrigued either way. What are other people's thoughts?


Warriors would prefer Looney to WCS too. Which is why he will not be traded
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1935 » by ddb » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:52 pm

100proof wrote:
GoGreen wrote:Truth is i don't think there's a trade out there that will make this team markedly better. There may be pieces avbl, but Danny never just trades for bench pieces. The best chance at a title is to either hope the Jays develop into something special, or sign Giannis in 2021.


Turner, lamb and mcd for hayward, poirier, semi and picks does.

Hayward fits brilliantly at sf for that roster.
Turner give us team usa on the court while give a tremendous bolster to the bench. (And more tradeable assets should need arise.

I would put a lineup of kemba/smart/brown/tatum/turner against any team in the league. Stoppers and unselfish team players at every position (kemba not a stopper but an excellent team defender)


this only makes sense if Hayward plans on opting out and leaving, or chasing top dollar. If that's the case then I would deal him to his hometown team if it meant getting Turner back. I'd want Warren too...not Lamb
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1936 » by Captain_Caveman » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:53 pm

CsBsSoxPhins wrote:Saw a C's fan on the trade board suggest:

In:
WCS & Alec Burks

Out:
Poirier, Edwards & MIL 1st

I would personally prefer Looney to WCS, if possible, but I would be intrigued either way. What are other people's thoughts?


WCS is absolute garbage and Looney is damaged goods. No way do we give up a 1st in that kind of trade.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1937 » by ddb » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:54 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:They should build around the Tatum and Brown, but getting a center will be costly, and the MEM pick probably doesn't have a lot of value now with MEM playing so well...

Turner, McDermott, J. Holiday
for
Hayward, Langford, Edwards, MEM pick.


dude you're giving up WAY TOO MUCH for Turner, Dougie, Holiday in this proposal. First of all, dealing Langford right now is super risky. We have no idea if he's going to be a stud or not. The Celtics aren't going to trade him right now. They didn't draft him for this year. Second of all, why are we trading a likely mid to late lottery pick? Makes no sense.
Hayward alone is the best player in this trade and it isn't even close.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1938 » by Dannyboy36 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:03 pm

100proof wrote:
GoGreen wrote:Truth is i don't think there's a trade out there that will make this team markedly better. There may be pieces avbl, but Danny never just trades for bench pieces. The best chance at a title is to either hope the Jays develop into something special, or sign Giannis in 2021.


Turner, lamb and mcd for hayward, poirier, semi and picks does.

Hayward fits brilliantly at sf for that roster.
Turner give us team usa on the court while give a tremendous bolster to the bench. (And more tradeable assets should need arise.

I would put a lineup of kemba/smart/brown/tatum/turner against any team in the league. Stoppers and unselfish team players at every position (kemba not a stopper but an excellent team defender)[/quote

I could be wrong but I don’t think we’d need to add so much of the rest. But I’m of the opinion Hayward is still a max level player or close to it. He’s just behind guys he’s better than and sacrificing for the team. He’s better than Turner if you ask me. Looking at indy’s roster I’d want more back in addition. I don’t like the idea of giving up Langford as well. Indy should be adding more.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1939 » by 100proof » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:10 pm

ddb wrote:
100proof wrote:
GoGreen wrote:Truth is i don't think there's a trade out there that will make this team markedly better. There may be pieces avbl, but Danny never just trades for bench pieces. The best chance at a title is to either hope the Jays develop into something special, or sign Giannis in 2021.


Turner, lamb and mcd for hayward, poirier, semi and picks does.

Hayward fits brilliantly at sf for that roster.
Turner give us team usa on the court while give a tremendous bolster to the bench. (And more tradeable assets should need arise.

I would put a lineup of kemba/smart/brown/tatum/turner against any team in the league. Stoppers and unselfish team players at every position (kemba not a stopper but an excellent team defender)


this only makes sense if Hayward plans on opting out and leaving, or chasing top dollar. If that's the case then I would deal him to his hometown team if it meant getting Turner back. I'd want Warren too...not Lamb


Well yeah to warren, but dont think they would include him in a deal. And mcd and lamb of the bench I think is better than kust warren. Again iko
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1940 » by CelticFaninLBC » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:16 pm

ddb wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:They should build around the Tatum and Brown, but getting a center will be costly, and the MEM pick probably doesn't have a lot of value now with MEM playing so well...

Turner, McDermott, J. Holiday
for
Hayward, Langford, Edwards, MEM pick.


dude you're giving up WAY TOO MUCH for Turner, Dougie, Holiday in this proposal. First of all, dealing Langford right now is super risky. We have no idea if he's going to be a stud or not. The Celtics aren't going to trade him right now. They didn't draft him for this year. Second of all, why are we trading a likely mid to late lottery pick? Makes no sense.
Hayward alone is the best player in this trade and it isn't even close.


Hope you're right, but Hayward can opt out of his deal too so that seems to drops his value.

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