Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized

[Simmons25]

Not really that hard to believe, he was exposed to more carbs and sugars when he got to the US. My friend put on around 35lbs his first year in the states, our portions and food in general can sky rocket your weight if you're not careful.

I still don't understand how someone that looked like this 8 years ago would be known in his career for being constantly out of shape and overweight.

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Yeah well I assumed he got fat from eating carbs and sugars My point is more that he was obviously not prone to being a larger person as a kid so its not like he has a metabolism issue or a certain body type prone to put on weight. A lot of people who struggle with putting on weight as they get in their 20's you can see as a kid they were never stick thin like this. This just points to laziness and lack of professionalism.

[rzzzzz]

Yeah well I assumed he got fat from eating carbs and sugars My point is more that he was obviously not prone to being a larger person as a kid so its not like he has a metabolism issue or a certain body type prone to put on weight. A lot of people who struggle with putting on weight as they get in their 20's you can see as a kid they were never stick thin like this. This just points to laziness and lack of professionalism.

outside of Hinkie, and a couple months of Jimmy, i don't think he's enjoyed the same level of support he got at Kansas. don't get me wrong, the $$$ is staggering and fans here really love the guy. but instead of hammering him with "you can't play big men down low in the league anymore" you scheme and build around generational talent. if that doesn't get him motivated again, it's on him.

[phillynative]

As a critical , Non Delusional fan of both Embiid and Ben . I hope this stretch of games where Ben has played the best ball of his career also gives Embiid an idea of where he can fit in when Ben has it going. When no one can stop him going down hill Embiid should get out the way as well.

There is no reason why Embiid the best offensive player on the team cant adapt his game when Ben has it going. When Ben is unstoppable on the break Embiid can play the role AL plays and when the game slows down take AL out and space the floor for embiid to do work inside.

Let Ben do his thing on the break than when it becomes halfcourt take out AL and let Embiid do his thing. We need another shooter but why is that so difficult?

[Wilfried]

Just to put a little perspective to this 'recent best stretch of Ben's career' and look up the competition we faced during that stretch.

Not hating or something, just reality. We know he can do this against the bad and mediocre teams in our league.

[phillynative]

Just to put a little perspective to this 'recent best stretch of Ben's career' and look up the competition we faced during that stretch.

Not hating or something, just reality. We know he can do this against the bad and mediocre teams in our league.

I agree the competition is not the best but he has been playing consistently aggressive in the first stretch of his career rather Bad or Good team consistently attacking has been another one of his vices. You can only hope he has turned the corner in that regard.

The point I was trying to make because it's been a lot of Ben D-Riding and Embiid bashing is that Ben can still play the way he has been playing even with Embiid on the floor. The Sixers obviously just have to take AL out for spacing purposes.

[VDT]

As a critical , Non Delusional fan of both Embiid and Ben . I hope this stretch of games where Ben has played the best ball of his career also gives Embiid an idea of where he can fit in when Ben has it going. When no one can stop him going down hill Embiid should get out the way as well.

There is no reason why Embiid the best offensive player on the team cant adapt his game when Ben has it going. When Ben is unstoppable on the break Embiid can play the role AL plays and when the game slows down take AL out and space the floor for embiid to do work inside.

Let Ben do his thing on the break than when it becomes halfcourt take out AL and let Embiid do his thing. We need another shooter but why is that so difficult?

I dont think Embiid is holding Simmons back in any way. Simmons is free to run in transition just like when he is playing with Horford and Brown has even forced Embiid to stay in the perimeter a lot even in the half court. And Simmons plays half of the game without Embiid anyway.

If Simmons plays better without Embiid. it is more likely Simmons trying to prove something than Embiid holding him back.

[XDevilBoiX]

As a critical , Non Delusional fan of both Embiid and Ben . I hope this stretch of games where Ben has played the best ball of his career also gives Embiid an idea of where he can fit in when Ben has it going. When no one can stop him going down hill Embiid should get out the way as well.

There is no reason why Embiid the best offensive player on the team cant adapt his game when Ben has it going. When Ben is unstoppable on the break Embiid can play the role AL plays and when the game slows down take AL out and space the floor for embiid to do work inside.

Let Ben do his thing on the break than when it becomes halfcourt take out AL and let Embiid do his thing. We need another shooter but why is that so difficult?

I dont think Embiid is holding Simmons back in any way. Simmons is free to run in transition just like when he is playing with Horford and Brown has even forced Embiid to stay in the perimeter a lot even in the half court. And Simmons plays half of the game without Embiid anyway.

If Simmons plays better without Embiid. it is more likely Simmons trying to prove something than Embiid holding him back.

I agree, Embiid isn’t the selfish type to ball hog. If Ben steps up, Embiid will surely give him the ball and let him do his thing. We’ve seen games where Embiid racks up 8-9 assists, Embiid puts all the pressure on himself because no one on offense has stepped up to help him on offense. We’ve seen in some games where Harris or Richardson goes on fire and Embiid still gets his.

Ben needs to be more agressive and stay like that, it’s all on Ben.

[rzzzzz]

gotta say kyle's got it right. if you run pick and rolls for Embiid, just like they finally ran pick and rolls for Ben last night, it's good. maybe they should go out and get somebody real good at running pick and rolls, and then you got 3 anchors for your half court offense this spring.

[phillynative]

gotta say kyle's got it right. if you run pick and rolls for Embiid, just like they finally ran pick and rolls for Ben last night, it's good. maybe they should go out and get somebody real good at running pick and rolls, and then you got 3 anchors for your half court offense this spring.

Who's kyle?

[rzzzzz]

Who's kyle?

the voice of one crying in the wilderness.

[pickprotection]

embiid needs to lose 30 lbs if he wants to run pick and roll and get better hands. right now he is too fat and lazy to run 20 pick and rolls a game. ben is better at rolling than embiid.

embiid should work on his 3 so he can stand behind the line and chuck and has an easier time getting back on defense.

[phillynative]

Embiid 3× all star . 2way beast . Argubly best big man in the league . Happy we have him.

[ankle420breaker]

Big Fella was a full participant at practice and will be reevaluated Monday.

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[eyeatoma]

Videos and pictures show him being noticeably slimmer, but I'll have to see him live to believe it.

[VDT]

I dont get this fixation with Embiid's weight.

Firstly he is bigger than most centers so he is going to weigh more.

Secondly i am not sure he benefits from a weight loss. He needs to find the best balance between quickness, stamina and strength, not just lose weight. He is the shot creator on the team and he needs to do that in the post. I dont want him to turn into a jump shooter or try to drive past his defender all the time. Which means that he needs to be strong enough to fight for position, have the stamina to do it throughout the game and be athletic/quick enough that he will be hard to guard. Him losing weight and try to play like a wing doesnt help the team.

[michaelm]

I dont get this fixation with Embiid's weight.

Firstly he is bigger than most centers so he is going to weigh more.

Secondly i am not sure he benefits from a weight loss. He needs to find the best balance between quickness, stamina and strength, not just lose weight. He is the shot creator on the team and he needs to do that in the post. I dont want him to turn into a jump shooter or try to drive past his defender all the time. Which means that he needs to be strong enough to fight for position, have the stamina to do it throughout the game and be athletic/quick enough that he will be hard to guard. Him losing weight and try to play like a wing doesnt help the team.

Sure, it cuts both ways, but the thing about him was that he started off as crazily athletic for his size. Maybe it was inevitable he would lose some of that, but his conditioning seems to cost him sometimes in games.

Seeing that (wisely or not) they have acquired Horford, I am all for playing Embiid under 30 minutes a game in the regular season and running an alternative scheme with Simmons and Horford when he is not out there. If the weight is muscle, his natural lean weight is what it is, but I don’t see that carrying fat which he sometimes seems to do helps him, and if he is just played in the post this probably under-utilises him, although that his best offensive employment overlaps with that of Simmons is no doubt problematic and I don’t see as others have said why such an elite center should have to bow to where the team’s PG wants to be because said PG can’t/won’t shoot.

I started following the Sixers as a second team because of Simmons and I am sure just like the Sixers FO can see how devastating he would be if he added even mediocre shooting to his game, but while he doesn’t shoot it looks as though they should have kept Butler and traded Simmons, particularly since there seemed to be no ego problems between Butler and Embiid and their games meshed better, and Jimmy was a player who could create a shot at the end of games.

[SixthStreet]

Embiid needs to shoot more 3s, but better 3s. We need to find a way to get him corner 3s. Run a two man game with Simmons on the right side of the floor to get him into the lane to force rotations (where Simmons is better able to get all the way to the rim) and station Embiid in the opposite corner where the ball can find him.

I think his low 3P% is a result of taking too many trail 3s on the secondary break and late shot clock bail outs. I don't think his percentages reflect his ability to knock down these shots. Just like Brown needed to make changes to put Simmons in position to take shots he's better at and more comfortable taking, he needs to do some of the same for Embiid 3s.

[nurseryc]

Just to put a little perspective to this 'recent best stretch of Ben's career' and look up the competition we faced during that stretch.

Not hating or something, just reality. We know he can do this against the bad and mediocre teams in our league.

Like the Lakers?

[kuclas]

Just to put a little perspective to this 'recent best stretch of Ben's career' and look up the competition we faced during that stretch.

Not hating or something, just reality. We know he can do this against the bad and mediocre teams in our league.

Like the Lakers?

Lakers were not playing hard for many stretches of the game. You can tell when an opponent is playing hard the entire game.

I don’t take much into lakers game. Good win for Sixers. Nothing to complain. Ben played great.

But you can see when we player Toronto. That’s intensity. You can tell when we played bucks. Sixers brought intensity. And bucks tried to turn it on but couldn’t.

Lakers just treated the game like a regular game besides the Lebron hoopla passing Kobe.

Just the nba these days. They float through a lot of games. All teams float like they are just waiting for playoffs to start at times.

[the_process]

Thought it was very nice Jo called Bobby to borrow his 24 out of the rafters for the game.