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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#141 » by TheZachAttack » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:21 pm

shrink wrote:Zach - great posts. I learned a lot.

Btw, your screen name have anything to do with Zach Morris’ band?


Thanks I like to dig into the numbers and scouting reports myself and I type those notes as I read and research. I don’t go in with any expectations instead of learning what actually is and based off of what actually is I like to then understand how I should contextualize and think of player performance.

Glad you enjoyed seeing that thought process on paper.

It’s actually paying homage to my favorite ex-Wolves player Zach Lavine. At the time he wasn’t an ex wolf :lol:
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#142 » by _AIJ_ » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:20 pm

Culver could be our 2nd star. He has all the right tools. Now Wiggins on the other hand would be a great 3rd option on the team


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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#143 » by post0115 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:31 am

I think we need to bring back point Wiggins. He is just so much better there than full time wing. It also makes his horrible shooting less of a problem ala 76ers. Bazz can b our 6th man. Teague emergency pg.
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Post#144 » by WolfAddict » Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:13 am

post0115 wrote:I think we need to bring back point Wiggins. He is just so much better there than full time wing. It also makes his horrible shooting less of a problem ala 76ers. Bazz can b our 6th man. Teague emergency pg.

Teague can carry the towels as far as I'm concerned...
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#145 » by post0115 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:29 am

Well, with Teague gone and 2 more wings being added to the roster (Crabbe and Kelan Martin) it looks like one way or another we should see point Wiggins for likely the rest of the year. Should be interesting.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#146 » by minimus » Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:03 pm

What interesting thing that I have noticed in last game vs IND is that with Napier running the point KAT tried to attack opponent bigmen after receiving pass being in the move. Results were mixed but once both KAT and ballhandler can execute this play better we can following outcomes:

1) slow footed bigmen can't contain KAT when he drives to the basket which might lead to and1 and foul troubles of opponent bigmen. If KAT misses his shot at time he can rebound his kids with high probability

2) if we have enough good shooters around KAT and the floor is stretched, opponent team cant send rotation help to stop rolling KAT

3) if opponent decide to under screen it will be open 3pt shot from ballhandler or KAT

That's completely different dynamic and as we can see we need a PG who can hit that open 3s, execute basic PnR and defend opponent. Recent upgrade from Teague to Napier and ML resulted in changed type of plays. I hope we can find our future PG because I see an enormous potential here.
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Post#147 » by vagelis » Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:54 am

Wiggins
Culver
Covington
Layman
Towns
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Post#148 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:35 am

post0115 wrote:I think we need to bring back point Wiggins. He is just so much better there than full time wing. It also makes his horrible shooting less of a problem ala 76ers. Bazz can b our 6th man. Teague emergency pg.


According to saunders, they went back to pg wiggs after going away from it for so long.

Ill take 11 asts with 2 turnovers every day.
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Post#149 » by minimus » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:18 am

Right now we need a PG who can push tempo and shoot open 3s. Napier and ML are far better fit than Teague and it was clear in this game vs TOR. The problem with this personel is defense. Napier doesn't have size and when he has to rotate he doesn't scare anyone. ML is rookie and not a great defender as well. Both show heart and effort but it is just not not NBA starting level.

Anyone I am very interested in how situation will developed, because once KAT is back our system start to function again. Waiting for Layman, because bench is depleted without Napier and Layman.
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Post#150 » by _AIJ_ » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:05 pm

minimus wrote:Right now we need a PG who can push tempo and shoot open 3s. Napier and ML are far better fit than Teague and it was clear in this game vs TOR. The problem with this personel is defense. Napier doesn't have size and when he has to rotate he doesn't scare anyone. ML is rookie and not a great defender as well. Both show heart and effort but it is just not not NBA starting level.

Anyone I am very interested in how situation will developed, because once KAT is back our system start to function again. Waiting for Layman, because bench is depleted without Napier and Layman.

Who is ML?


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Post#151 » by tribulations » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:22 pm

^^McLaughlin

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Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#152 » by minimus » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:54 pm

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minimus wrote:Right now we need a PG who can push tempo and shoot open 3s. Napier and ML are far better fit than Teague and it was clear in this game vs TOR. The problem with this personel is defense. Napier doesn't have size and when he has to rotate he doesn't scare anyone. ML is rookie and not a great defender as well. Both show heart and effort but it is just not not NBA starting level.

Anyone I am very interested in how situation will developed, because once KAT is back our system start to function again. Waiting for Layman, because bench is depleted without Napier and Layman.

Who is ML?


Sorry it is hard for me to type his name correctly.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#153 » by minimus » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:58 pm

If we can draft Haliburton or Hayes it will be an ideal fit. A big comboguard who can push tempo, defend both PG/SG will makes us much balanced team.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#154 » by Neeva » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:26 pm

Think I might prefer Hampton if wolves draft a combo guard.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#155 » by TheZachAttack » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:56 pm

Why McLaughlin instead of Nowell? I guess it’s McLaughlins turn just to see what they have?
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#156 » by minimus » Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:18 pm

TheZachAttack wrote:Why McLaughlin instead of Nowell? I guess it’s McLaughlins turn just to see what they have?

Nowell is a scorer, not a point guard
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#157 » by Klomp » Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:54 pm

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TheZachAttack wrote:Why McLaughlin instead of Nowell? I guess it’s McLaughlins turn just to see what they have?

Nowell is a scorer, not a point guard

Exactly.

I think fans have gotten excited about the concept of Nowell as a PG/primary playmaker, but we haven't seen him in that role yet in Iowa or in Minnesota. Even most of the season in Iowa, McLaughlin has been the PG in that rotation, not Nowell. When McLaughlin is in Minnesota (like last night), Trevon Duval is inserted into the Iowa starting lineup as the primary playmaker.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#158 » by Jedzz » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:57 am

vagelis wrote:Wiggins
Culver
Covington
Layman
Towns


You would have to confer with Layman's toe, and with Ryan who will likely always place Cov at PF over Layman anyway. Reid could play PF. Dieng could.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#159 » by Jedzz » Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:04 am

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minimus wrote:
TheZachAttack wrote:Why McLaughlin instead of Nowell? I guess it’s McLaughlins turn just to see what they have?

Nowell is a scorer, not a point guard

Exactly.

I think fans have gotten excited about the concept of Nowell as a PG/primary playmaker, but we haven't seen him in that role yet in Iowa or in Minnesota. Even most of the season in Iowa, McLaughlin has been the PG in that rotation, not Nowell. When McLaughlin is in Minnesota (like last night), Trevon Duval is inserted into the Iowa starting lineup as the primary playmaker.


I don't think many have assumed him a PG. Just this summer some were when everyone, Culver, Nowell, any guard really was being presumed possible as a solution for PG because everyone thought that was going to be the target of the draft, at least the big team need.

I said this summer he's a perfect second option scorer, off ball. If you watch his college games, he starts games slow while others are the lead attackers, and slowly starts getting all the kick outs and second chance scores, but by the end of the games he's the leading scorer and the clutch shooter his team went to. Has happened a lot in Iowa this way. I think this makes him perfect for the Wolves with Wiggins, Culver, or Napier being the primary attacker early. Just as long as Nowell is playing all game and not limited to 14 minutes. I don't see him getting into the flow as a shooter playing 9th man. Warm him up and he's dangerous.
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