Around The NBA: 2019-20 RESTART

[SfBull]

Yall ... does anyone else go back (or watch live) and watch Pistons full game highlights, or at least the full Rose highlights????

He's playing amazing. It's really beautiful, smart basketball. He's got the same touch, the same dribble, very similar clutch gene that young MVP Rose did.

What I've seen the last month IS the same MVP Rose but a couple steps less explosive on the break. What that equates to is still a fantastic NBA player. He is playing each night like the front runner for 6-MOY and serious candidate for All-Star game. I know he's 31, but I'm amazed at what I see from him on the court, and the load management is working well for him this year (knock on wood). Call me crazy (I know some of you will), but I'm thinking wit ha full year sans any medical setbacks, he could take another step forward and get back to that star territory. We'll see.

Let's engineer a deadline trade getting him back for the Bulls,he will be our starter pg the instant he goes back to Chicago.

[Jcool0]

Wouldn't mind her taking over in Chicago

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[RSP83]

Marcus Smart went 11-22 from 3 last night. He was a 29% shooter from 3 in his first 4 years.
Kris Dunn, take note. You'll stick around in the NBA for a long time as a valuable contributor if you can hit your 3s.

the first exact same thing that pops up in my mind. How long would it take for Kris Dunn to eventually develop a respectable 3-point shot? It took Smart like 5-6 years.

It's also interesting that Smart, like Dunn, came into the league as a high lottery pick. Both were expected to run an NBA offense from the get go, but both fell short due to nobody respect their shooting, and ended up relegated to defensive specialist. Smart accepted that role, and he's now an All-Defensive first team player and an important piece of the Celtics squad. With an improving jumpshot, if he's able to knock it down consistently at respectable rate, he becomes a pretty rare commodity. Highly valuable player. Dunn, with the right coaching and mindset can become a similar player.

[MrSparkle]

Marcus Smart went 11-22 from 3 last night. He was a 29% shooter from 3 in his first 4 years.
Kris Dunn, take note. You'll stick around in the NBA for a long time as a valuable contributor if you can hit your 3s.

the first exact same thing that pops up in my mind. How long would it take for Kris Dunn to eventually develop a respectable 3-point shot? It took Smart like 5-6 years.

It's also interesting that Smart, like Dunn, came into the league as a high lottery pick. Both were expected to run an NBA offense from the get go, but both fell short due to nobody respect their shooting, and ended up relegated to defensive specialist. Smart accepted that role, and he's now an All-Defensive first team player and an important piece of the Celtics squad. With an improving jumpshot, if he's able to knock it down consistently at respectable rate, he becomes a pretty rare commodity. Highly valuable player. Dunn, with the right coaching and mindset can become a similar player.

The big difference is Smart was a really solid role-player from day 1. His floor was very good - he averaged 27 mpg for a playoff Celtic team and has had a positive overall rating all along.

Dunn couldn’t buy a minute playing on lottery team, playing for Thibs who traditionally had a very long leash for defensive PGs. Then he came here, was handed the keys, and showed some flashes, but overall could never be a reliable ball-handler and defender.

Now you see him figuring out a role, but I can’t compare the guys. Smart is playoff tested and a routinely “smart” (no pun intended) role-player.

Dunn at this point, after 3 years, is a 20 mpg defensive specialist on a lotto team.

That said, I agree that with the right team, he could improve another notch or two and become a very respectable playoff guard. Not sure if that means starter or 6th man (certainly not all-star unless an unprecedented improvement happened), but contenders should keep an eye on him.

[Red8911]

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Oh please the other assistants who do this and a lot more don’t count to you because they are men? The only reason why they keep talking about her is because she’s a women. If any team hires her for head coach it would be for attention purposes, the media will be all over that.

[CBS7]

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Oh please the other assistants who do this and a lot more don’t count to you because they are men? The only reason why they keep talking about her is because she’s a women. If any team hires her for head coach it would be for attention purposes, the media will be all over that.

She could be a decent head coach. I'd take her over Boylen.
I don't see Pop as a guy having a woman on her coaching staff for the attention. She's definitely there on merit. I remember reading reports that Pop was grooming her to take over when he retired, even.

And to be fair I don't really recall ever seeing an assistant coach getting that fired up.

[RSP83]

Marcus Smart went 11-22 from 3 last night. He was a 29% shooter from 3 in his first 4 years.
Kris Dunn, take note. You'll stick around in the NBA for a long time as a valuable contributor if you can hit your 3s.

the first exact same thing that pops up in my mind. How long would it take for Kris Dunn to eventually develop a respectable 3-point shot? It took Smart like 5-6 years.

It's also interesting that Smart, like Dunn, came into the league as a high lottery pick. Both were expected to run an NBA offense from the get go, but both fell short due to nobody respect their shooting, and ended up relegated to defensive specialist. Smart accepted that role, and he's now an All-Defensive first team player and an important piece of the Celtics squad. With an improving jumpshot, if he's able to knock it down consistently at respectable rate, he becomes a pretty rare commodity. Highly valuable player. Dunn, with the right coaching and mindset can become a similar player.

The big difference is Smart was a really solid role-player from day 1. His floor was very good - he averaged 27 mpg for a playoff Celtic team and has had a positive overall rating all along.

Dunn couldn’t buy a minute playing on lottery team, playing for Thibs who traditionally had a very long leash for defensive PGs. Then he came here, was handed the keys, and showed some flashes, but overall could never be a reliable ball-handler and defender.

Now you see him figuring out a role, but I can’t compare the guys. Smart is playoff tested and a routinely “smart” (no pun intended) role-player.

Dunn at this point, after 3 years, is a 20 mpg defensive specialist on a lotto team.

That said, I agree that with the right team, he could improve another notch or two and become a very respectable playoff guard. Not sure if that means starter or 6th man (certainly not all-star unless an unprecedented improvement happened), but contenders should keep an eye on him.

fair enough. I guess with Smart maybe he figured it out earlier how he needs to play to maximize his strength, thus his value to the team. That Celtics team had Rondo earlier and then Isaiah Thomas later, so I guess Smart kinda take it slow, especially with more senior guys ahead of him in the pecking order. With Dunn, his mentality was a bit different when he was a rookie, he tried to do too much, Thibs probably figured it out that Dunn is not the right guy to run his offense. We gave Dunn a chance, and despite some nice showings, we figure it out that his ceiling is limited as a lead guard. I think today's Dunn is a different player compared to his early years, when he wasn't very sure what he is either.

[dougthonus]

Oh please the other assistants who do this and a lot more don’t count to you because they are men? The only reason why they keep talking about her is because she’s a women. If any team hires her for head coach it would be for attention purposes, the media will be all over that.

It's certainly a possibility that she gets more attention for minor things because she's a woman, but she also takes criticism, just like this post, for no reason other than that she's a woman. It's hard to imagine anyone hiring her as a head coach "for attention". Attention won't sell tickets, can easily become distraction, and will devalue the franchise considerably if it doesn't work.

I do think you could hire an assistant for positive attention / news cycle without it having a huge impact, but a head coach? No, I don't think it would ever work that way. If she gets that job then it will be because she earned it.

[Indomitable]

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Oh please the other assistants who do this and a lot more don’t count to you because they are men? The only reason why they keep talking about her is because she’s a women. If any team hires her for head coach it would be for attention purposes, the media will be all over that.

I agree with you.

[Indomitable]

Rose is playing well. He definitely has a great contract.

[Dan Z]

Atlanta Hawks forward Chandler Parsons' playing days may be over following car wreck, attorneys say

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/20/us/chandler-parsons-wreck-atlanta-hawks/index.html

[Indomitable]

Atlanta Hawks forward Chandler Parsons' playing days may be over following car wreck, attorneys say

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/20/us/chandler-parsons-wreck-atlanta-hawks/index.html

Just read article and am sorry to hear about the brain injury. I hope he recovers.

[VolumePoster]

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Me too. The two people I'd love to see involved with the Bulls are Hammond and Luol Deng. Erase this stale ass air with people of intelligence and integrity.

[Red8911]

Wouldn't mind her taking over in Chicago

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Oh please the other assistants who do this and a lot more don’t count to you because they are men? The only reason why they keep talking about her is because she’s a women. If any team hires her for head coach it would be for attention purposes, the media will be all over that.

She could be a decent head coach. I'd take her over Boylen.
I don't see Pop as a guy having a woman on her coaching staff for the attention. She's definitely there on merit. I remember reading reports that Pop was grooming her to take over when he retired, even.

And to be fair I don't really recall ever seeing an assistant coach getting that fired up.

Pop obviously likes her and has helped her this whole time. Pop is the only reason she now has a name. I disagree with taking her over Boylen, why is she better than Boylen ? Boylen was considered a very good assistant to Pop before he signed here as an assistant and has way more NBA experience than her.

[Mech Engineer]

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Me too. The two people I'd love to see involved with the Bulls are Hammond and Luol Deng. Erase this stale ass air with people of intelligence and integrity.

Actually, very nice idea. Luol for the international connections on scouting, recent player and most of all understands the wing position. And, I don't much about Hammond but she can hopefully bring some creativity into the organization.

And, Luol ticks off the Reinsdorf requirement of being an ex-Bull to have a big job in the organization.

[kulaz3000]

Atlanta Hawks forward Chandler Parsons' playing days may be over following car wreck, attorneys say

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/20/us/chandler-parsons-wreck-atlanta-hawks/index.html

That's absolutely disgusting.

It really makes me angry when I read stories like this where people drink and drive and put other innocent lives at risk. Everywhere around the world need to make much harsher penatlies with regards to drink driving, it really should be zero tolerance.

[AKfanatic]

Atlanta Hawks forward Chandler Parsons' playing days may be over following car wreck, attorneys say

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/20/us/chandler-parsons-wreck-atlanta-hawks/index.html

That's absolutely disgusting.

It really makes me angry when I read stories like this where people drink and drive and put other innocent lives at risk. Everywhere around the world need to make much harsher penatlies with regards to drink driving, it really should be zero tolerance.

Honestly, there needs to be more responsibility all around in society. Used to blow my mind when going to the bars in Anchorage (Chilkoot Charlie’s) and walking towards the massive parking lot seeing people who could barely manage to walk, hopping in their cars. The lack of responsibility by those that serve alcohol is crazy. Once their customer is off their property, they seemingly don’t care. Myself and a big group of people that had also lost loved ones to drunk drivers got together with cab companies and those companies and their drivers really stepped up and began sending their cars to the bars at closing time and offering free rides....

That doesn’t stop those drinking at home or other gatherings from hopping behind the wheel, but it was a start. The next step is accountability for those that serve. Your bar has a parking lot, put up an exit booth and hire a guy to man it... hell hire an off duty cop to make sure your patrons aren’t on their way to kill themselves or innocents.

[dice]

Oh please the other assistants who do this and a lot more don’t count to you because they are men? The only reason why they keep talking about her is because she’s a women. If any team hires her for head coach it would be for attention purposes, the media will be all over that.

It's certainly a possibility that she gets more attention for minor things because she's a woman, but she also takes criticism, just like this post, for no reason other than that she's a woman. It's hard to imagine anyone hiring her as a head coach "for attention". Attention won't sell tickets, can easily become distraction, and will devalue the franchise considerably if it doesn't work.

I do think you could hire an assistant for positive attention / news cycle without it having a huge impact, but a head coach? No, I don't think it would ever work that way. If she gets that job then it will be because she earned it.

yeah, there's no way a team would hire a female head coach for publicity purposes. it's certain that she would face intense scrutiny and probably unwarranted criticism when the team hits the inevitable rough patches. if anything, she would probably have to be overqualified to get that first head coaching shot

i do think that popovich might have hired her not entirely based on her merits as a coach. he's a progressive guy and seems to enjoy rocking the boat of tradition. plus, he knows that the culture that he has in place in san antonio insulates her to some degree. she is getting more latitude to prove herself there than she would anywhere else in the league

[dougthonus]

i do think that popovich might have hired her not entirely based on her merits as a coach. he's a progressive guy and seems to enjoy rocking the boat of tradition. plus, he knows that the culture that he has in place in san antonio insulates her to some degree. she is getting more latitude to prove herself there than she would anywhere else in the league

She got hired just to be an assistant coach. I'm not sure you would think she was unqualified for an entry level coaching position after having a HOF type career in the WNBA and college basketball playing as a PG (which typically is the more cerebral position on the floor), especially as one whom didn't blow you away with athleticism.

I would think it's fairly common for people to have any type of general experience with basketball as a gateway to that job. She's since been promoted to Spurs lead assistant. One would think that's because she's done a good job while there and isn't for show (as there's really no reason to do that for show).

I still agree with everything else you said outside of merit though. I do think it's a move a lot of other people wouldn't have wanted to risk regardless of her merits.

[Jcool0]

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Oh please the other assistants who do this and a lot more don’t count to you because they are men? The only reason why they keep talking about her is because she’s a women. If any team hires her for head coach it would be for attention purposes, the media will be all over that.

What are you talking about. I never said anything about other assistants. You sure seem to not like women though. So i think that's your problem.