Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1)

[Bluelabel24]

^^^ a few more low risk names that could be had cheap..
simi shittu- 20yrs, 6'10 240lbs guy who's a hustler

aric holman- 22yrs, 6'10 230lbs who can shoot 3s(shot 43% his last year in college)

sagaba Konate- 22yrs old, 6'8 slightly undersized height wise but built like a freaking tank at 260lbs of muscle. high level athlete and elite shot blocker. also shot 39% from 3 his last yr in college. he is my personal favorite among the guys I listed, however the catch with him is that he injured his knee and is still on minutes restriction. i think most of you guys would like him too.

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[PhillyFan11]

Out of pure curiosity from a Sixers fan...how would Mavs fans feel about acquiring Al Horford to be your new 5 now that Powell is done for a while? Lee, Wright and Curry works salary wise....

[DJ_3_Ball]

Out of pure curiosity from a Sixers fan...how would Mavs fans feel about acquiring Al Horford to be your new 5 now that Powell is done for a while? Lee, Wright and Curry works salary wise....

I remember Horford was rumored to be on the Mavs radar last summer. I didn't really like it then, but that's because I'm inclined to think more long term.

In the short term, that'd be great. But, Horford is 33 & he's got 3 more years left on that contract that would block the Mavs ability to do anything with any other FA or trade acquisition during Luka's rookie deal (and going 1 year past it as well). Completely takes the Mavs out of the 2021 FA class as well, when Horford will then be 35 yrs old with 2 years & $53 mil left on his contract. No thank you.

I'd have to have Zhaire Smith included in that deal to even think about it, and my scouts would have to be in my ear telling me Zhaire is the second-coming for me to give it any serious consideration.

On the other side of the coin, I like the deal for Philly. You give up Embiid insurance and a quality option to defend Giannis with in the post-season, but you add much needed depth on the perimeter and shooting with Curry... and more importantly, you free up the contract of Horford & give yourself more flexibility to move pieces around.

If I'm Philly, I gotta pick Embiid or Simmons and build my team around one of those 2. Then I gotta move the guy I don't chose and it'd be nice to have that $28 mil a year Horford is currently occupying to get a piece that compliments my new look team better.

[PhillyFan11]

Out of pure curiosity from a Sixers fan...how would Mavs fans feel about acquiring Al Horford to be your new 5 now that Powell is done for a while? Lee, Wright and Curry works salary wise....

I remember Horford was rumored to be on the Mavs radar last summer. I didn't really like it then, but that's because I'm inclined to think more long term.

In the short term, that'd be great. But, Horford is 33 & he's got 3 more years left on that contract that would block the Mavs ability to do anything with any other FA or trade acquisition during Luka's rookie deal (and going 1 year past it as well). Completely takes the Mavs out of the 2021 FA class as well, when Horford will then be 35 yrs old with 2 years & $53 mil left on his contract. No thank you.

I'd have to have Zhaire Smith included in that deal to even think about it, and my scouts would have to be in my ear telling me Zhaire is the second-coming for me to give it any serious consideration.

On the other side of the coin, I like the deal for Philly. You give up Embiid insurance and a quality option to defend Giannis with in the post-season, but you add much needed depth on the perimeter and shooting with Curry... and more importantly, you free up the contract of Horford & give yourself more flexibility to move pieces around.

If I'm Philly, I gotta pick Embiid or Simmons and build my team around one of those 2. Then I gotta move the guy I don't chose and it'd be nice to have that $28 mil a year Horford is currently occupying to get a piece that compliments my new look team better.

Yeah no denying the horford contract is no good...was just curious how a Mavs fan thinks Horford would impact the short term success of the team. From a distance he looks like he’d a pretty good fit.

But I think Jo and Ben will be fine together...they were 1 of the greatest post season buzzer beaters ever away from beating Kawhi and the Raptors last year. Adding Horford and exacerbating the spacing issue on the team was idiotic by the Sixers front office and the main problem that needs to be rectified. At worst I’d want to see them with a new coach before getting rid of either

[dirkforpres]

Out of pure curiosity from a Sixers fan...how would Mavs fans feel about acquiring Al Horford to be your new 5 now that Powell is done for a while? Lee, Wright and Curry works salary wise....

I think it’s a bad idea for Dallas. I like Al, but he’s old and that contract is bad. It would be really short sighted for them to deal for him and doesn’t make any real sense either because we aren’t a serious contender with him or without him

[Pinkyring]

Powell is a solid player but he isnt a make or break for this roster, in order for us to have had any real success he's probably 5th or 6th on the most important list. Luka, kp, maxi, thj, and Wright are all more valuable. All powell provides is a role threat, faried can fill that need seamlessly

[Archx]

Powell is a solid player but he isnt a make or break for this roster, in order for us to have had any real success he's probably 5th or 6th on the most important list. Luka, kp, maxi, thj, and Wright are all more valuable. All powell provides is a role threat, faried can fill that need seamlessly

Except Powell is nr1 in the NBA at FG% around the rim. Is also nr1 guy for Doncic's PnR, which is almost their entire offense, is one of the best guys in the NBA when it comes to playing with high energy and hustling for rebounds and is also one of the best guys in the NBA at making shots above the rim. And to make matter even worse, he started playing really really well lately. I think Mavs will miss him a lot.

[alessandrux]

OKC fan here,( if we would start trading our short-term contributors,) would you be interested in Nerlens Noel and would you part with your GSW 2nd for him?

[arkuo]

OKC fan here,( if we would start trading our short-term contributors,) would you be interested in Nerlens Noel and would you part with your GSW 2nd for him?

I don't think Cuban is keen to let draft picks go. Even moreso for the GSW 2nd rounder.

And if they really wanted Noel, they can just sign him straight up once the season is over in a few months. Getting Noel right now doesn't move the needle to NBA Finals contention status so I don't think they are that desperate. They hung on to those picks for quite some time now. So I think they will wait it out.

[Pinkyring]

Powell is a solid player but he isnt a make or break for this roster, in order for us to have had any real success he's probably 5th or 6th on the most important list. Luka, kp, maxi, thj, and Wright are all more valuable. All powell provides is a role threat, faried can fill that need seamlessly

Except Powell is nr1 in the NBA at FG% around the rim. Is also nr1 guy for Doncic's PnR, which is almost their entire offense, is one of the best guys in the NBA when it comes to playing with high energy and hustling for rebounds and is also one of the best guys in the NBA at making shots above the rim. And to make matter even worse, he started playing really really well lately. I think Mavs will miss him a lot.

Using fg% on a sub 10ppg scorer is lazy, he's efficient because his whole offense is catching lobs, we always have those guys whether it was wright, tyson, dj or powell, all those guys were good because they knew their offensive limitations, powell hustles but he isnt a good rebounder or defender, he will be missed simply because we dont have another guy doing that but je can certainly be replaced with Faried

[arkuo]

OKC fan here,( if we would start trading our short-term contributors,) would you be interested in Nerlens Noel and would you part with your GSW 2nd for him?

Although for the record, Nerlens would have been a really good pick and roll partner to Luka. Moves fast, good height, finished above the rim, plays great defense. And is young enough to be in the same timeline as Luka and KP.

[Archx]

Powell is a solid player but he isnt a make or break for this roster, in order for us to have had any real success he's probably 5th or 6th on the most important list. Luka, kp, maxi, thj, and Wright are all more valuable. All powell provides is a role threat, faried can fill that need seamlessly

Except Powell is nr1 in the NBA at FG% around the rim. Is also nr1 guy for Doncic's PnR, which is almost their entire offense, is one of the best guys in the NBA when it comes to playing with high energy and hustling for rebounds and is also one of the best guys in the NBA at making shots above the rim. And to make matter even worse, he started playing really really well lately. I think Mavs will miss him a lot.

Using fg% on a sub 10ppg scorer is lazy, he's efficient because his whole offense is catching lobs, we always have those guys whether it was wright, tyson, dj or powell, all those guys were good because they knew their offensive limitations, powell hustles but he isnt a good rebounder or defender, he will be missed simply because we dont have another guy doing that but je can certainly be replaced with Faried

Or you could read what Dirk posted in general threads. One interesting bit from his post. As you can see, this duo produced a very efficient offense. Can it be replicated with another player? I guess we'll see soon enough.

On/Off lovers this season
Luka Doncic/Dwight Powell ON
743 mins Netrtg +10.74 Ortg 123.58 Drtg 112.83

[Pinkyring]

OKC fan here,( if we would start trading our short-term contributors,) would you be interested in Nerlens Noel and would you part with your GSW 2nd for him?

We had noel that didn't end well so he wouldn't approve a trade here however he'd be the perfect fit and ive said that since the offseason

[dirkforpres]

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I was hoping this would happen. Trade for Bogdan and sign Noah.

[oldshoolballer]

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I was hoping this would happen. Trade for Bogdan and sign Noah.

If Noah is healthy it's a good move.The guy was very good defensively.

[Darren]

Morris + Ntilikina

Dedmon + Bogdanovic

are pretty good trade scenario for the Mavs.

I don't care the Mavs has to trade any pick. The Mavs is not good at drafting young player, anyway.

[dirkforpres]

Morris + Ntilikina

Dedmon + Bogdanovic

are pretty good trade scenario for the Mavs.

I don't care the Mavs has to trade any pick. The Mavs is not good at drafting young player, anyway.

Unless it’s an all star in return, I don’t want to get rid of the 2025 pick. We aren’t winning it all this year anyway, so if any pick gets moved it should be this years on draft night

[BlueSan]

Go for overseas or G league and throw them in the fire right away, trust in Luka all they need is to be decent and the rest will work

[Darren]

I think a little about Luka as 4 scenario. I wonder if KP sustains as a 5, though.

C - KP / Kleber / Boban
PF - Luka / FA / Powell / Roby
SF - DFS / JJ 2.0
SG - TH / Wright
PG - Curry / Brunson / Barea

Under such scenario, we only need to fix the 2nd unit offense. I'm fine with Brunson and Wright for Rose and filler (Thou Maker?). It is easy to get a hustling veteran at 4/5 in FA.

C - KP / Maker / Boban
PF - Luka / Kleber / Powell
SF - DFS / JJ 2.0 / Roby
SG - TH / Lee / Broekhoff or Reaves?
PG - Curry / Rose / Barea

If the Mavs pull down an AI trade, then it's even better scenario. For example, EXP + Roby + 2nd for AI

C - KP / Maker / Boban
PF - Luka / Kleber / Powell
SF - DFS / JJ 2.0 / Broekhoff
SG - TH / AI / Reaves?
PG - Curry / Rose / Barea

Both Rose and AI are eligible for starting spot as well. But I want Rose to lead 2nd unit with the penetration. I am fine switching Curry with AI as starter.

[DJ_3_Ball]

Was listening to Steph Curry on the All the Smoke podcast. Reminded me of something important.

Golden State isn't in the playoffs this year. But, starting next year they'll return Steph, Klay, a top 5 draft pick, Draymond + whatever they flip DeAngelo Russell for. Steph will only be 32 years old at the start of next season. They're going have another very strong 3-4 year run in them. Not to mention all the much needed rest Steph & Klay are getting this year.

For the next 3 seasons, I'm referring to '20-'21, '21-'22, '22-'23, Steph will be 32-34 years old, LeBron will be 35-37 years old, Klay is still just 29, Kawhi just 28 (altho he has the body of a 35 year old already)... Those are going to be difficult years in the West.

This year is the most wide open I can anticipate it being. I think we remember the Heat were the most vulnerable the first year of the Big 3. After that they got things figured out and went on that crazy 27-0 run during the regular season. I feel like the Clippers are going to be their most vulnerable this season.

Now, in '23-'24, that becomes our time. Luka 24, KP 26, both in their primes while the other Giants in the West have started to hit their decline. There will probably be upcoming teams, like Memphis (if they stay together) that you'll have to contend with. OKC with all those draft picks & SGA + Ferguson + Bazley etc... but OKC probably a few years away still. New Orleans for sure would be a potential threat with Zion, Ingram, Zo, Hayes, etc.

I hadn't really thought about it like that. But, this year is probably the Mavs best chance to do some damage, and then it could very easily be a 3 year wait before West opens up again.

It also really doesn't feel to me like the Lakers are these untouchable Gods. I don't feel that way about the Clippers. There's no team in the West that puts the fear of God into me. The closest is Milwaukee, but they're still unproven themselves.

This may be a year to add a piece & take a shot. Because next year it'll be GSW back at 100%, both LA teams having came together & figured things out, Denver probably figuring out how to best use Michael Porter Jr... the only team I think will be worse next year is HOU. Utah will even have Mitchell in full-on perennial All-Star mode & a year with Conley Jr to figure things out.

I could easily see the Mavs get 5-7 games better next year & it wouldn't show. That'd be needed just to stay in the top 6 of the West.