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Re: PG - The bum slayers 

Post#21 » by Indomitable » Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:52 am

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AKfanatic wrote:Hutch started stringing good games together last year before being sidelined with injuries. He seems to have some good tools, excellent defender, solid rebounder, can pass, and can get in the paint. I’d expect to see him show improvement If he can manage to stay of the court.


Hutch still struggles with an actual game right now though. He does attack and get to the free throw line. Its something we need. But his biggest weakness is finishing on his drives. He has improved a lot this year in that regard. Still doesn't have good touch around the basket but its improving.

He needs to finish through contact better.
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Post#22 » by AKfanatic » Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:53 am

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Hutch still struggles with an actual game right now though. He does attack and get to the free throw line. Its something we need. But his biggest weakness is finishing on his drives. He has improved a lot this year in that regard. Still doesn't have good touch around the basket but its improving.



I said it when we drafted him... Hutch often throws up awkward attempts around the rim in hopes of drawing fouls. He got away with that a ton in college. In the NBA, he really needs to learn how to just attack the rim. He’s got a very fast and powerful leap to his game that you rarely see, he needs to learn to use that on his drives.

Beyond that, he still really needs to find a consistent jumper and that should be his priority if he can enter the off season healthy.


They should hire Pippen to train him this summer. Their body types are so similar. There's no reason not to tap into that resource.


Absolutely. He’s no Pip, but he could be a Pip-like (lite) player. He’s good pushing the ball. Good rebounding.... and he’s very good at man and team D when he gets to playing his game.

He would do himself a great service learning from Scottie and trying to emulate some of things Scottie did.
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Re: PG - The bum slayers 

Post#23 » by AKfanatic » Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:55 am

Need Lauri to build off this one and not take two steps back as he’s seemingly done all season.
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Post#24 » by Dresden » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:05 am

DASMACKDOWN wrote:KAT reminds me of a more athletic Zach Randolph. He just has a real unorthodox game, even on his jumpers. You are just constantly in confusion. He is a hard cover.

But the Twolves biggest issue is Wiggans by far. If they both showed up night in and night out they could be a playoff team.



They didn't show up tonight? They had 65 between them, and still lost to a bad team like the Bulls.
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Post#25 » by mtron32 » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:21 am

AKfanatic wrote:Need Lauri to build off this one and not take two steps back as he’s seemingly done all season.

that's assuming he isn't injured from that fall
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Post#26 » by Ice Man » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:29 am

Just got back from the UC. About 65% occupied, a Sunday picnic atmosphere. People are going to the games because it's an event with dancing and noise and stuff, or they have tickets already so why not? I didn't see many people who seemed to care much about the outcome.

It's strange to see the Bulls win without Zach going for 30+. I was impressed with him, his teammates were playing well so he was content to let them do their thing and play within the team concept. Sure a few goofy shots but most scorers will do that. He had 25 points on 18 shots, so it's not as if he can be accused of being inefficient, overall.

A solid night for the supporting cast and as usual, a bad night for the Timberwolves. That franchise has no past, no present, and seemingly no future.
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Re: PG - The bum slayers 

Post#27 » by kodo » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:40 am

FriedRise wrote:Also can’t agree with the PG thread title. At this point, any win is a good win considering we’re down two starters and have to play our third AND fourth string Cs 48 combined minutes.

If anything, tonight was an embarrassing loss for Minny given they’re fully healthy.


Agreed, a 22 win team from last season missing 2 starters and their best big bench player with what most call the worst coach in the league is supposed to have an easy win?

Minny's record is this bad because Towns missed almost all of Dec and half of January. They had a winning record in Oct/Nov. They're a borderline playoff team when full strength like they were tonight.
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Post#28 » by Ice Man » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:41 am

HomoSapien wrote:We're only 3 games out of the playoffs and a half a game behind 9th place Detroit. I assume we'll leapfrog them once they trade Drummond and Rose. Orlando is hanging on despite losing Isaac to an injury.


We'd better make hay now, because our final 20 games are brutal. I don't see any way on this planet that we could go .500 during that stretch -

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Post#29 » by dumbell78 » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:41 am

Jcool0 wrote:WTF is with the TO with 5 seconds left up 7???? Can Jim not count?


Teaching moment there for the genius. I expect he makes Val do some wind sprints at practice because of this.
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Post#30 » by Ice Man » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:47 am

The Wolves are 9-18 when KAT has played this season. Not his fault, he is a very good player, but that is not a good team, and it is not contending for any playoff slot, even in a year when the West has weakened.
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Re: PG - The bum slayers 

Post#31 » by Red Larrivee » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:48 am

Ice Man wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:We're only 3 games out of the playoffs and a half a game behind 9th place Detroit. I assume we'll leapfrog them once they trade Drummond and Rose. Orlando is hanging on despite losing Isaac to an injury.


We'd better make hay now, because our final 20 games are brutal. I don't see any way on this planet that we could go .500 during that stretch -

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Clippers
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Magic
Celtics


Hell, we'd need to go .500 the rest of the way just to win 35 games. We're currently on pace for...30.

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Post#32 » by kodo » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:56 am

Interesting wrinkle the in the gameplan in how they used Lauri, more like last year in terms of where he positioned himself, closer to the basket instead of staying out on the perimeter spacing & passing to the open man. Tonight he drove and cut more, drew some fouls and got baskets near the rim.

I wonder if that's the gameplan for Lauri going forward, or if it was just a result of Felicio who doesn't even try to pretend he's going to get the ball so he clears out entirely leaving the paint for Lauri.
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Post#33 » by Ice Man » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:58 am

kodo wrote:Interesting wrinkle the in the gameplan in how they used Lauri, more like last year in terms of where he positioned himself, he cut to the basket frequently instead of staying out on the perimeter spacing & passing to the open man. Tonight he drove and cut more, drew some fouls and got baskets near the rim.

I wonder if that's the gameplan for Lauri going forward, or if it was just a result of Felicio who doesn't even try to pretend he's going to get the ball so he clears out entirely leaving the paint for Lauri.


Either way, let's do more of it. That's how he should be used. He's no good as a static post-up player, but he does fine rolling to the basket.
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Post#34 » by Kurt Heimlich » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:14 am

Ice Man wrote:The Wolves are 9-18 when KAT has played this season. Not his fault, he is a very good player, but that is not a good team, and it is not contending for any playoff slot, even in a year when the West has weakened.


Tonight was a prime example if bigtime counting stats with some truly awful defense behind it from KAT. Kornet and felicio both had bigtime games.

Giving up big games to not one but both of those guys is pretty unacceptable especially from your franchise guy. I don't follow the wolves (lol) but I'm going to assume KAT was still shaking off injury/rust and that's why he was so piss poor defensively.
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Post#35 » by HomoSapien » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:16 am

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Post#36 » by WindyCityBorn » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:20 am

AKfanatic wrote:Need Lauri to build off this one and not take two steps back as he’s seemingly done all season.


No way am I getting hope from one game.
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Post#37 » by Ice Man » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:21 am

Kurt Heimlich wrote:Giving up big games to not one but both of those guys is pretty unacceptable especially from your franchise guy. I don't follow the wolves (lol) but I'm going to assume KAT was still shaking off injury/rust and that's why he was so piss poor defensively.


Ah, he's not much defensively. But when you score 40, you're doing alright. The Wolves were right there, up 2 with 2:30 left. If they win, he's a hero. But then the Bulls get a layup when he's away from the basket, a 3 point basket, four fouls shots that other guys caused, and his teammates don't get a KAT a shot until the game was over, with 5 seconds left.
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Post#38 » by PrimzyBulls81 » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:01 am

HomoSapien wrote:
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Post#39 » by dice » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:06 am

Ice Man wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:We're only 3 games out of the playoffs and a half a game behind 9th place Detroit. I assume we'll leapfrog them once they trade Drummond and Rose. Orlando is hanging on despite losing Isaac to an injury.


We'd better make hay now, because our final 20 games are brutal. I don't see any way on this planet that we could go .500 during that stretch -

Indiana
Brooklyn
Cleveland
Orlando
Miami
Boston
Miami
San Antonio
Houston
Denver
Philly
Knicks
Jazz
Denver
Phoenix
LAL
Clippers
Nets
Magic
Celtics

espn BPI % chances of making playoffs before tonight's games:

98.2 orlando (41-41)
65.1 nets (35-47)

21.5 pistons (33-49)
14.0 bulls (32-50)
1.1 wiz (28-54)

only takes into account performance to date, of course. pistons in reality will be lower w/ nets higher
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Post#40 » by dumbell78 » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:42 am

PrimzyBulls81 wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:
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