Blake Griffin considering season ending surgery

[Kilo]

I wonder if it's granted. An NBA third party Doctor has to essentially agree that there would be no chance of Blake playing again this year and if the reports of the surgery are right and the 4-6 weeks is the norm than I can't see any agreeing that he'd be unable to play for three months.

Not like it matters since we won't use it. Can we go into the tax with it? I mean given the planned and reported rebuild, a one year into the tax isn't going to kill anybody. It's the progressive repeater that is the killer. If we could get a pending FA's bird rights with it - that could be valuable to us.

[MrBigShot]

I feel for Blake. He's worked hard to develop his offensive game as his athleticism declined, but unfortunately a lot of people are not built to handle the toll that an NBA season takes on your body.

[Kilo]

Dude is going to make near $80M the next two season from the Pistons. He's alright.

[Snakebites]

Dude is going to make near $80M the next two season from the Pistons. He's alright.

Guy can't do a job he presumably enjoys doing for a long time, and will in all likelihood never be able to do it at a high level ever again.

That'd make me feel bad no matter how much money I already had.

[Kilo]

Dude is going to make near $80M the next two season from the Pistons. He's alright.

Guy can't do a job he presumably enjoys doing for a long time, and will in all likelihood never be able to do it at a high level ever again.

That'd make me feel bad no matter how much money I already had.

I know. I'm just being cranky. Though I will save real sympathies/empathy for others in the grand scheme of life.

[kpt]

The Pistons have been granted a $9.2 million disabled player exception for Blake Griffin's season-ending knee procedure.

What is the benefit of this?

[Snakebites]

The Pistons have been granted a $9.2 million disabled player exception for Blake Griffin's season-ending knee procedure.

What is the benefit of this?

None, really.

They’re just covering their bases. The TPE can in theory be used to sign players or take on salary via trade, but our status near the luxury tax means we’re not in position to do much with it.

[kpt]

I thought so. Thanks

[Billl]

In theory, we could sign someone or trade for someone. Both put us over the luxury cap, so that is unlikely.

The other (remote) possibility is that we use it in a complicated trade where multiple guys are going out and coming in. If the numbers happen to work out just right, you can structure it as 2 separate trades and end up creating new trade exceptions. It doesn't really get you anything now, but it might be extra flexibility later.

[Manocad]

Dude is going to make near $80M the next two season from the Pistons. He's alright.

Guy can't do a job he presumably enjoys doing for a long time, and will in all likelihood never be able to do it at a high level ever again.

That'd make me feel bad no matter how much money I already had.

Yep. Not being able to do what you love to do has nothing to do with money whatsoever. I don’t make a living playing golf and if I suffered an injury that prevented me from playing golf again—even at the level I’m at—I’d be bummed as hell.

Related side anecdote...I flew into northern Wisconsin five years ago on a hunting trip and Kirk Gibson was on the plane. When he got off the plane he was walking like he was 100 years old—those short, little, shuffling unsteady steps—and I thought “There is no amount of money that wouldn’t make me feel bummed as hell that I was in that condition at that age.” I think he would have been 57? at the time.

[BadMofoPimp]

Dude is going to make near $80M the next two season from the Pistons. He's alright.

Guy can't do a job he presumably enjoys doing for a long time, and will in all likelihood never be able to do it at a high level ever again.

That'd make me feel bad no matter how much money I already had.

Yep. Not being able to do what you love to do has nothing to do with money whatsoever. I don’t make a living playing golf and if I suffered an injury that prevented me from playing golf again—even at the level I’m at—I’d be bummed as hell.

Related side anecdote...I flew into northern Wisconsin five years ago on a hunting trip and Kirk Gibson was on the plane. When he got off the plane he was walking like he was 100 years old—those short, little, shuffling unsteady steps—and I thought “There is no amount of money that wouldn’t make me feel bummed as hell that I was in that condition at that age.” I think he would have been 57? at the time.

You say that now in your position, but if you did not have so much success in life and had spent the past 30 years working for $40-50k a year, I bet being a millionaire living the high life for a good 20-30 years would make it worth being sore at 57.

[Snakebites]

Guy can't do a job he presumably enjoys doing for a long time, and will in all likelihood never be able to do it at a high level ever again.

That'd make me feel bad no matter how much money I already had.

Yep. Not being able to do what you love to do has nothing to do with money whatsoever. I don’t make a living playing golf and if I suffered an injury that prevented me from playing golf again—even at the level I’m at—I’d be bummed as hell.

Related side anecdote...I flew into northern Wisconsin five years ago on a hunting trip and Kirk Gibson was on the plane. When he got off the plane he was walking like he was 100 years old—those short, little, shuffling unsteady steps—and I thought “There is no amount of money that wouldn’t make me feel bummed as hell that I was in that condition at that age.” I think he would have been 57? at the time.

You say that now in your position, but if you did not have so much success in life and had spent the past 30 years working for $40-50k a year, I bet being a millionaire living the high life for a good 20-30 years would make it worth being sore at 57.

I think you’re assuming money carries the same value for him as it does you.

I also don’t think he simply described Gibson as “sore”. That marginalizes his condition.

I don’t think any amount of money is worth spending 30+ years walking like you’re 100.

[BadMofoPimp]

Yep. Not being able to do what you love to do has nothing to do with money whatsoever. I don’t make a living playing golf and if I suffered an injury that prevented me from playing golf again—even at the level I’m at—I’d be bummed as hell.

Related side anecdote...I flew into northern Wisconsin five years ago on a hunting trip and Kirk Gibson was on the plane. When he got off the plane he was walking like he was 100 years old—those short, little, shuffling unsteady steps—and I thought “There is no amount of money that wouldn’t make me feel bummed as hell that I was in that condition at that age.” I think he would have been 57? at the time.

You say that now in your position, but if you did not have so much success in life and had spent the past 30 years working for $40-50k a year, I bet being a millionaire living the high life for a good 20-30 years would make it worth being sore at 57.

I think you’re assuming money carries the same value for him as it does you.

I also don’t think he simply described Gibson as “sore”. That marginalizes his condition.

Manocad makes good money so being in Gibsons position means less than it would for most people.

[Snakebites]

You say that now in your position, but if you did not have so much success in life and had spent the past 30 years working for $40-50k a year, I bet being a millionaire living the high life for a good 20-30 years would make it worth being sore at 57.

I think you’re assuming money carries the same value for him as it does you.

I also don’t think he simply described Gibson as “sore”. That marginalizes his condition.

Manocad makes good money so being in Gibsons position means less than it would for most people.

He wasn’t comparing Gibson’s position to being dirt poor.

He was comparing Gibson’s position to a life where he presumably consistently has “enough” but doesn’t have the level of excess associated with being a pro-athlete.

As someone who is gainfully employed and lives a relatively comfortable but not excessive lifestyle I can relate to that. I wouldn’t sacrifice my health or mobility for more money. I’m sure I would if I couldn’t feed myself, but I think the point here is that there are things excess wealth don’t compensate for.

I always notice that some have less sympathy for the rich and famous for issues entirely unrelated to fame or fortune, and this has never made sense to me.

[BadMofoPimp]

I think you’re assuming money carries the same value for him as it does you.

I also don’t think he simply described Gibson as “sore”. That marginalizes his condition.

Manocad makes good money so being in Gibsons position means less than it would for most people.

He wasn’t comparing Gibson’s position to being dirt poor.

He was comparing Gibson’s position to a life where he presumably consistently has “enough” but doesn’t have the level of excess associated with being a pro-athlete.

As someone who is gainfully employed and lives a relatively comfortable but not excessive lifestyle I can relate to that. I wouldn’t sacrifice my health or mobility for more money. I’m sure I would if I couldn’t feed myself, but I think the point here is that there are things excess wealth don’t compensate for.

I always notice that some have less sympathy for the rich and famous for issues entirely unrelated to fame or fortune, and this has never made sense to me.

Regardless of how much money he made, the Game Experiences including World Series greatness are experiences that no amount of money or bodily malfunctions can surpass to many.

[Snakebites]

Manocad makes good money so being in Gibsons position means less than it would for most people.

He wasn’t comparing Gibson’s position to being dirt poor.

He was comparing Gibson’s position to a life where he presumably consistently has “enough” but doesn’t have the level of excess associated with being a pro-athlete.

As someone who is gainfully employed and lives a relatively comfortable but not excessive lifestyle I can relate to that. I wouldn’t sacrifice my health or mobility for more money. I’m sure I would if I couldn’t feed myself, but I think the point here is that there are things excess wealth don’t compensate for.

I always notice that some have less sympathy for the rich and famous for issues entirely unrelated to fame or fortune, and this has never made sense to me.

Regardless of how much money he made, the Game Experiences including World Series greatness are experiences that no amount of money or bodily malfunctions can surpass to many.

I’m not sure Manocad was even saying it wouldn’t be worth it, now that I reread. I think he was just saying he’d be bummed.

[Manocad]

He wasn’t comparing Gibson’s position to being dirt poor.

He was comparing Gibson’s position to a life where he presumably consistently has “enough” but doesn’t have the level of excess associated with being a pro-athlete.

As someone who is gainfully employed and lives a relatively comfortable but not excessive lifestyle I can relate to that. I wouldn’t sacrifice my health or mobility for more money. I’m sure I would if I couldn’t feed myself, but I think the point here is that there are things excess wealth don’t compensate for.

I always notice that some have less sympathy for the rich and famous for issues entirely unrelated to fame or fortune, and this has never made sense to me.

Regardless of how much money he made, the Game Experiences including World Series greatness are experiences that no amount of money or bodily malfunctions can surpass to many.

I’m not sure Manocad was even saying it wouldn’t be worth it, now that I reread. I think he was just saying he’d be bummed.

I’ll clarify...
Yes, I AM saying that I wouldn’t trade basically all athletic ability of my legs at 57, sore or not, for ANY amount of money.

And of course I’m only saying that relative to my personal situation. I didn’t say “I don’t understand why anyone would do that to themselves;” I was speaking for myself.

If I were 57, broke and homeless you’re damn right I’d trade that to be a rich star former pro athlete with bum legs. Or I’d just go to Florida and crash on Pimp’s couch.

[BadMofoPimp]

Regardless of how much money he made, the Game Experiences including World Series greatness are experiences that no amount of money or bodily malfunctions can surpass to many.

I’m not sure Manocad was even saying it wouldn’t be worth it, now that I reread. I think he was just saying he’d be bummed.

I’ll clarify...
Yes, I AM saying that I wouldn’t trade basically all athletic ability of my legs at 57, sore or not, for ANY amount of money.

And of course I’m only saying that relative to my personal situation. I didn’t say “I don’t understand why anyone would do that to themselves;” I was speaking for myself.

If I were 57, broke and homeless you’re damn right I’d trade that to be a rich star former pro athlete with bum legs. Or I’d just go to Florida and crash on Pimp’s couch.

As long as you don't drink all my beer and Jameson.

[Manocad]

I’m not sure Manocad was even saying it wouldn’t be worth it, now that I reread. I think he was just saying he’d be bummed.

I’ll clarify...
Yes, I AM saying that I wouldn’t trade basically all athletic ability of my legs at 57, sore or not, for ANY amount of money.

And of course I’m only saying that relative to my personal situation. I didn’t say “I don’t understand why anyone would do that to themselves;” I was speaking for myself.

If I were 57, broke and homeless you’re damn right I’d trade that to be a rich star former pro athlete with bum legs. Or I’d just go to Florida and crash on Pimp’s couch.

As long as you don't drink all my beer and Jameson.

You can have the beer. The Jameson would be in danger, for sure.