Trade Thread Part Deux

[Andrew McCeltic]

Way more interesting for sure. I thought my fake deals are fantastical already.
You don't think you're overvaluing Hayward in these scenarios? He's in his 30s, has a foot issue, and could bolt in the offseason.

Who thought we'd get three unprotected 1sts for Pierce and KG? Or that Phoenix could get Joe Johnson for Rodney Rogers and Tony Delk? Etc. Come up with the deal first, let the market set value.

Hayward for KAT straight up then.

What's the rationale for it? I only come up with this sh*t if teams have been linked to players before and/or it's plausible they'd make a hasty win-now move (like Brooklyn did). Indiana has been interested in Aaron Gordon before, and it's an Orlando writer who came up with Fournier/Bamba for Hayward months ago. Fournier has more value than AG at this point, he's having a great year - and the Magic have a surplus at the 4 with AG, Isaac and Aminu - keeping Bamba and trading Fultz is within the realm of possibility, if they really want to make the playoffs and get better now.

[reload141]

https://www.ccn.com/3-joel-embiid-trades-youll-hate-until-they-win-the-76ers-an-nba-title/

Boston Receives: Joel Embiid and Josh Richardson
Philadephia Receives: Jayson Tatum and Gordon Hayward

I'm just reposting this. Don't flame me.

[Floody100]

https://www.ccn.com/3-joel-embiid-trades-youll-hate-until-they-win-the-76ers-an-nba-title/

Boston Receives: Joel Embiid and Josh Richardson
Philadephia Receives: Jayson Tatum and Gordon Hayward

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Embiid’s attitude & injury problems are too much of a worry for me.

[MagicBagley18]

https://www.ccn.com/3-joel-embiid-trades-youll-hate-until-they-win-the-76ers-an-nba-title/

Boston Receives: Joel Embiid and Josh Richardson
Philadephia Receives: Jayson Tatum and Gordon Hayward

I'm just reposting this. Don't flame me.

Boston would do a 180 on Joel very quickly haha fans would love him

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

https://www.ccn.com/3-joel-embiid-trades-youll-hate-until-they-win-the-76ers-an-nba-title/

Boston Receives: Joel Embiid and Josh Richardson
Philadephia Receives: Jayson Tatum and Gordon Hayward

I'm just reposting this. Don't flame me.

Boston would do a 180 on Joel very quickly haha fans would love him

He's an ****, but he'd be OUR ****.

[jeremym480]

Would you guys want to get in on Covington but only if it meant none of our core goes?

According to reports the Lakers, Rockets, Mavs, and 76ers are all interested in him. I think we could beat most of them in a 3 for 1 type of deal. Then sign Waters and see if we can sign someone in the buyout market. It would likely mean that either Langford or the Memphis pick goes (maybe both IDK?). It also would mean that Covington would come off the bench and I'm not sure how he would feel about that. Could this and our own 2020 pick beat a Kuzma deal? I'm not sure what other teams would offer.



The playoff rotation would probably be

Kemba, Wanamaker
Brown, Smart
Tatum
Hayward, Covington
Theis, Kanter

[100proof]

Here is my idea for the day.
Goal is keeping core together.

To Washington:
Kyle Kuzma, Semi, Grant Williams and Boston pick
Washington adds some youth and cheap contracts and pick up another pick. Bets on Kuzma returning to last years player.

To LAL
Wannamaker and Bucks first
Lakers get a vet play maker and a pick for a now under performing, inconstant young guy

To NYK
Poirier and Edwards
NYK moves on from a player they have effectively killed and adds 2 young, cheap options.

To Boston
Bertrans, Wagner, Smith Jr.
Boston adds some firepower to the bench/potential to start as injury replacements. Bets on smith returning to Dallas form under a real coach.

Kemba/Smith Jr/Waters (signed)
Brown/Smart/Romeo
Hayward/Bertrans/Green
Tatum/Wagner/(buyout)
Theis/Kanter/Timelord


http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=uwpyvov

[CelticFaninLBC]

Would you guys want to get in on Covington but only if it meant none of our core goes?

According to reports the Lakers, Rockets, Mavs, and 76ers are all interested in him. I think we could beat most of them in a 3 for 1 type of deal. Then sign Waters and see if we can sign someone in the buyout market. It would likely mean that either Langford or the Memphis pick goes (maybe both IDK?). It also would mean that Covington would come off the bench and I'm not sure how he would feel about that. Could this and our own 2020 pick beat a Kuzma deal? I'm not sure what other teams would offer.



The playoff rotation would probably be

Kemba, Wanamaker
Brown, Smart
Tatum
Hayward, Covington
Theis, Kanter

Kuzma is pretty meh, and can the Lakers even trade a 1st rounder, after sending future picks to New Orleans?

The BOS 2020, MILW 2020, Grant Williams, Ojeleye, Edwards & Poirier (salary filler) seems like a pretty solid offer for Covington.

[sully00]

Would you guys want to get in on Covington but only if it meant none of our core goes?

According to reports the Lakers, Rockets, Mavs, and 76ers are all interested in him. I think we could beat most of them in a 3 for 1 type of deal. Then sign Waters and see if we can sign someone in the buyout market. It would likely mean that either Langford or the Memphis pick goes (maybe both IDK?). It also would mean that Covington would come off the bench and I'm not sure how he would feel about that. Could this and our own 2020 pick beat a Kuzma deal? I'm not sure what other teams would offer.



The playoff rotation would probably be

Kemba, Wanamaker
Brown, Smart
Tatum
Hayward, Covington
Theis, Kanter

I don't really buy him as a PF and he isn't the 3pt shooter I want but I like him defensively he is very versatile and I like him off the market for anyone else. He is under contract for two more seasons at short money so there is a lot to like. Don't like giving up Langford but like the leverage and options it would give the team with Hayward. I don't think I can do both Memphis and Langford but this is tempting.

[100proof]

Would you guys want to get in on Covington but only if it meant none of our core goes?

According to reports the Lakers, Rockets, Mavs, and 76ers are all interested in him. I think we could beat most of them in a 3 for 1 type of deal. Then sign Waters and see if we can sign someone in the buyout market. It would likely mean that either Langford or the Memphis pick goes (maybe both IDK?). It also would mean that Covington would come off the bench and I'm not sure how he would feel about that. Could this and our own 2020 pick beat a Kuzma deal? I'm not sure what other teams would offer.



The playoff rotation would probably be

Kemba, Wanamaker
Brown, Smart
Tatum
Hayward, Covington
Theis, Kanter

I don't really buy him as a PF and he isn't the 3pt shooter I want but I like him defensively he is very versatile and I like him off the market for anyone else. He is under contract for two more seasons at short money so there is a lot to like. Don't like giving up Langford but like the leverage and options it would give the team with Hayward. I don't think I can do both Memphis and Langford but this is tempting.

I would do it if you are looking to trade Hayward in a separate deal for a bigman and bench help

Kemba/Brown/Tatum/Covington is very dangerous defensively, and if needed tossing Smart in place of Kemba for a needed stop is insane.

But key would be a big body.

[100proof]

Cause big trades are fun

Hayward and Dieng and Boston first to Washington (Improves 2 positions to keep up with the washington model of middle of the pack)

Mahinmi, Smith, Kanter, Edwards, Bucks pick to Minny (Gets a PG upgrade, sheds longterm salary, adds a vet backup big and a cheap kid

Thomas Bryant, Robert Covington, Bertrans, Brown Jr to Boston (vastly upgrade bench and solidify a defensive starting lineup

Kemba/Wannamaker/Waters
Brown/Smart/Romeo
Tatum/Brown JR/Semi
Covington/Bertrans/Grant Williams
Bryant/Theis/Timelord

[sully00]

Would you guys want to get in on Covington but only if it meant none of our core goes?

According to reports the Lakers, Rockets, Mavs, and 76ers are all interested in him. I think we could beat most of them in a 3 for 1 type of deal. Then sign Waters and see if we can sign someone in the buyout market. It would likely mean that either Langford or the Memphis pick goes (maybe both IDK?). It also would mean that Covington would come off the bench and I'm not sure how he would feel about that. Could this and our own 2020 pick beat a Kuzma deal? I'm not sure what other teams would offer.



The playoff rotation would probably be

Kemba, Wanamaker
Brown, Smart
Tatum
Hayward, Covington
Theis, Kanter

I don't really buy him as a PF and he isn't the 3pt shooter I want but I like him defensively he is very versatile and I like him off the market for anyone else. He is under contract for two more seasons at short money so there is a lot to like. Don't like giving up Langford but like the leverage and options it would give the team with Hayward. I don't think I can do both Memphis and Langford but this is tempting.

I would do it if you are looking to trade Hayward in a separate deal for a bigman and bench help

Kemba/Brown/Tatum/Covington is very dangerous defensively, and if needed tossing Smart in place of Kemba for a needed stop is insane.

But key would be a big body.

Agreed that Covington to me would be the best Hayward replacement as he gives you fixed cost for a couple of years. I like that he has been lining up as a PF but I am not sold on that as a team need. I think they need a guard and 3 pt shooting more than a big right now.

I think Alec Burks in GS is ideal for Boston, and most of the team's in the NBA. Boston is in a position to sort of give away a 1st round pick that other team's are not. Boston's options financially are also limited unless they move rotation pieces. GS also has a collection of young bigs on short money deals that they can include.

I do think guys who are on short money expiring contracts are going to be inventory at the deadline and in the buyout market. The guys who are on big expiring deals but still have above MLE value are almost like a Trade Exception this off season as cap space is limited especially in desirable and competitive locations.

[Dannyboy36]

I don’t see a Hayward trade THIS season that makes us better. If it’s all in this season I don’t see how you can trade him. Our very outside chance at a title involves Hayward.
Attaining Tristan Thompson is the clear jackpot move for us cuz it keeps the vote together. After that can we still attain a guy like Bovdanovich? If not then the best wing / guard buyout fit possible. That to me is the all in move for this year. Tristan is the key to me. He’s perfect for us from the somewhat realistic pool of guys.
I feel like this has to be the move. Removing Hayward’s triple threat game is too important to the jays success this year to me. Otherwise we’re asking these two to create too much and while I’m excited about their future they strengthen there yet in the facilitating aspect to upend the Lakers/ Clippers. It’s just not happening in 7 games .

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[FlatearthZorro]

Would you guys want to get in on Covington but only if it meant none of our core goes?

According to reports the Lakers, Rockets, Mavs, and 76ers are all interested in him. I think we could beat most of them in a 3 for 1 type of deal. Then sign Waters and see if we can sign someone in the buyout market. It would likely mean that either Langford or the Memphis pick goes (maybe both IDK?). It also would mean that Covington would come off the bench and I'm not sure how he would feel about that. Could this and our own 2020 pick beat a Kuzma deal? I'm not sure what other teams would offer.



The playoff rotation would probably be

Kemba, Wanamaker
Brown, Smart
Tatum
Hayward, Covington
Theis, Kanter

I like Covington, but I don't think he's worth a top 15 pick. And I don't think he solves our problems. He's another tweener SF/PF. We need a center who can rebound, block shots and defend the PnR.

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[Banks2Pierce]

He's another tweener SF/PF. We need a center who can rebound, block shots and defend the PnR.

I feel like getting a rangy 3/4 might be more valuable to this squad than any of the 5s available to us. If you can't slow down Embiid, just double down on your strengths.

[FlatearthZorro]

He's another tweener SF/PF. We need a center who can rebound, block shots and defend the PnR.

I feel like getting a rangy 3/4 might be more valuable to this squad than any of the 5s available to us. If you can't slow down Embiid, just double down on your strengths.

By adding to your strength you mean add a guy who got abused by a 20 year old Tatum, makes what 15-16 mils, and is a similar type to Hayward/Tatum/Brown meaning SF(i guess PF too in today's game)..

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Kanter is slowly but surely becoming one of my favorite players on the team. Sans the injuries he's been better than advertised.