Sophmores, 2020-21 – Langford, G. Williams, Edwards, Waters, Tacko

31to6 · Post #281 » by **31to6** » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:41 am

Parliament10 wrote:

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I’m sure they have reasons why, but the only appealing one to me is that hopefully this means JB’s thumb is feeling okay.

Post #282 » by **snowman** » Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:55 am

If Waters and Fall are going to be with the big club next season, we had better make a trade to clear up a spot or 2. I'm thinking Waters will replace Wannamaker, and Fall should replace Semi. However, what about the 3 1st's and 1 2nd we have in this draft. I know, I know, that's a different topic lol

LewisnotMiller · Post #283 » by **LewisnotMiller** » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:58 am

snowman wrote:If Waters and Fall are going to be with the big club next season, we had better make a trade to clear up a spot or 2. I'm thinking Waters will replace Wannamaker, and Fall should replace Semi. However, what about the 3 1st's and 1 2nd we have in this draft. I know, I know, that's a different topic lol

Or we pull a LeBron and try to copywrite 'Tacko Two-way'...

captain green · Post #284 » by **captain green** » Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:58 am

snowman wrote:If Waters and Fall are going to be with the big club next season, we had better make a trade to clear up a spot or 2. I'm thinking Waters will replace Wannamaker, and Fall should replace Semi. However, what about the 3 1st's and 1 2nd we have in this draft. I know, I know, that's a different topic lol

Sorta thinking same way. We can't sustain a constant turnover. So far we are overproducing with a un balanced and young team. I think we have to trade quantity for quality while it's still applicable. Problem is semi is cheap for what he is hard to say no to a roster spot like that. Wannamaker to really. I've always thought Langford is trade bait unfortunately he can't fetch much alone.

Post #285 » by **Bleeding Green** » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:39 am

captain green wrote:
snowman wrote:If Waters and Fall are going to be with the big club next season, we had better make a trade to clear up a spot or 2. I'm thinking Waters will replace Wannamaker, and Fall should replace Semi. However, what about the 3 1st's and 1 2nd we have in this draft. I know, I know, that's a different topic lol

Sorta thinking same way. We can't sustain a constant turnover. So far we are overproducing with a un balanced and young team. I think we have to trade quantity for quality while it's still applicable. Problem is semi is cheap for what he is hard to say no to a roster spot like that. Wannamaker to really. I've always thought Langford is trade bait unfortunately he can't fetch much alone.

They've sustained a constant turnover til now and have primed the roster to do the same again. Hayward, Semi, Wanamaker, Kanter could all be gone and hopefully those spots can be filled with the MLE, Waters, Langford, Williams, or some consolidation trade. Then the new draft picks slide in behind them and we keep it going until you can make that trade for a top-10 player or you hit on some non-lottery picks like getting a Siakam/Giannis/Jokic/whatever. Otherwise I don't see the reason to trade cheap, young players. There is no window on this roster as of right now.

Langford was a top-5 draft pick before his injury freshman year, if he's tradebait I hope Ainge gets a top-50 player for him on a good salary.

claycarver · Post #286 » by **claycarver** » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:11 am

snowman wrote:If Waters and Fall are going to be with the big club next season, we had better make a trade to clear up a spot or 2. I'm thinking Waters will replace Wannamaker, and Fall should replace Semi. However, what about the 3 1st's and 1 2nd we have in this draft. I know, I know, that's a different topic lol

Wannamaker, Green, Theis, Poirier, Ojeleye, Kanter. Depending on the players brought in through draft and MLE, there are several places to shave the roster down if we need to.

But I expect Danny to trade a few picks into the future.

cloverleaf · Post #287 » by **cloverleaf** » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:13 pm

Interesting that so far on the season 5 of the 7 C's with a positive on-off +/- are rooks:

Romeo
Tremont
Grant
Tacko
Vincent

To go along with

Jayson (of course)
Enes

Gordon is neutral and the rest of the C's are negative.

Red2 · Post #288 » by **Red2** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:24 am

I don’t get the logic ; brown is out so you send Romeo to Maine ?

Red2 · Post #289 » by **Red2** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:27 am

If Only Theis were three inches taller

cloverleaf · Post #290 » by **cloverleaf** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:58 pm

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Red2 · Post #291 » by **Red2** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:22 pm

its great to draft nice guys and all but would it have killed Danny to draft some guys who could have actually helped the team this year?

24istheLAW · Post #292 » by **24istheLAW** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:25 pm

Red2 wrote:its great to draft nice guys and all but would it have killed Danny to draft some guys who could have actually helped the team this year?

That Brandon Clarke guy sure looked like a difference-maker last night :lol:

Red2 · Post #293 » by **Red2** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:04 pm

At least he’s tall enough to play PF and fills a need we had. Grant is too slow to Guard wings and too small to guard bigs

Post #294 » by **Bleeding Green** » Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:07 am

Here are all the rookies drafted after Romeo Langford (20) who would be positive additions and in the rotation for the current Celtics: Matisse Thybulle (22), Brandon Clarke (23). Maybe Daniel Gafford (21). Luckily drafts are not graded in the first 700 minutes of a player's career. There just aren't that many guys who are useful to winning teams in their rookie season unless you're like Jayson Tatum or something.

LewisnotMiller · Post #295 » by **LewisnotMiller** » Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:44 am

Don't look now, but the 'Grant Williams can't shoot' narrative is looking damn shaky.
It's low volume for now, but take the glacial slow start out, and he's high thirties...heck, maybe even 40%.

(Honestly can't remember if I factored in the Orlando game)

All we need now is for him to start teaching Carsen how to shoot...

Post #296 » by **ParticleMan** » Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:20 am

Bleeding Green wrote:Here are all the rookies drafted after Romeo Langford (20) who would be positive additions and in the rotation for the current Celtics: Matisse Thybulle (22), Brandon Clarke (23). Maybe Daniel Gafford (21). Luckily drafts are not graded in the first 700 minutes of a player's career. There just aren't that many guys who are useful to winning teams in their rookie season unless you're like Jayson Tatum or something.

i've honestly been impressed with romeo when he's played. guy just moves like he belongs in the nba. injuries suck but the fact is he wasn't gonna get much PT this year anyways. i'm fine with trusting the process with him. he's going to be a good one in a couple of years, if he can just cut down on the nagging injuries.

GuyClinch · Post #297 » by **GuyClinch** » Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:55 am

Bleeding Green wrote:
captain green wrote:
snowman wrote:If Waters and Fall are going to be with the big club next season, we had better make a trade to clear up a spot or 2. I'm thinking Waters will replace Wannamaker, and Fall should replace Semi. However, what about the 3 1st's and 1 2nd we have in this draft. I know, I know, that's a different topic lol

Sorta thinking same way. We can't sustain a constant turnover. So far we are overproducing with a un balanced and young team. I think we have to trade quantity for quality while it's still applicable. Problem is semi is cheap for what he is hard to say no to a roster spot like that. Wannamaker to really. I've always thought Langford is trade bait unfortunately he can't fetch much alone.

They've sustained a constant turnover til now and have primed the roster to do the same again. Hayward, Semi, Wanamaker, Kanter could all be gone and hopefully those spots can be filled with the MLE, Waters, Langford, Williams, or some consolidation trade. Then the new draft picks slide in behind them and we keep it going until you can make that trade for a top-10 player or you hit on some non-lottery picks like getting a Siakam/Giannis/Jokic/whatever. Otherwise I don't see the reason to trade cheap, young players. There is no window on this roster as of right now.

Langford was a top-5 draft pick before his injury freshman year, if he's tradebait I hope Ainge gets a top-50 player for him on a good salary.

Guys get Ainge all wrong - turnover is all he does - outside of the stars. Look at the championship celtics and then the 2010 finals one. The stars were still there but the rest of the roster is different.

Ainge doesn't really build with 2nd round picks and late firsts - they just round out the roster providing cheap help. Same with foreign guys.. People claim he "missed" with this pick or that but generally he is looking for guys that can do a few things off the bench to save him from expensive vets. He wants to spend the money on the stars.

sam_I_am · Post #298 » by **sam_I_am** » Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:52 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:Here are all the rookies drafted after Romeo Langford (20) who would be positive additions and in the rotation for the current Celtics: Matisse Thybulle (22), Brandon Clarke (23). Maybe Daniel Gafford (21). Luckily drafts are not graded in the first 700 minutes of a player's career. There just aren't that many guys who are useful to winning teams in their rookie season unless you're like Jayson Tatum or something.

Great point. I would say that even with small sample size, I am far more excited about Langford’s potential than any of those guys even though I love the way Thybulle plays. The only regret I have over Langford pick is Tyler Herro. Reminds me of when Pacers picked Danny Grange 1 pick ahead of us and we had to “settle” for Gerald Green.

Gant · Post #299 » by **Gant** » Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:31 pm

Tremont Waters last night in the G League: 23 points, 11 assists, 8 rebounds, 5 steals, 9-16 from the floor.

AKFO · Post #300 » by **AKFO** » Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:23 pm

LewisnotMiller wrote:Don't look now, but the 'Grant Williams can't shoot' narrative is looking damn shaky.
It's low volume for now, but take the glacial slow start out, and he's high thirties...heck, maybe even 40%.

(Honestly can't remember if I factored in the Orlando game)

All we need now is for him to start teaching Carsen how to shoot...

Yeah Grant is now 14/32 (44%) from 3 since his ofer streak. Made 8 of his first 20 as well.