Kobe Bryant and Daughter Gianna Killed in a Helicopter Crash

Roy The Natural · Post #1561 » by **Roy The Natural** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:53 am

Illmatic12 wrote:
Mamba4Goat wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

What an awesome move.

I believe the other 28 teams should follow suit retire either #8 or #24 if not already taken

100% agree.

Illmatic12 · Post #1562 » by **Illmatic12** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:53 am

The number might already be retired on some franchises, but hopefully by next season all 30 NBA arenas will fly the Bryant #24 from the rafters as a sign of remembrance.

Post #1563 » by **-Sammy-** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:53 am

Fencer reregistered wrote:
BombsquadSammy wrote:
Fencer reregistered wrote:
Well, moderation is difficult and poorly paid, so I won't complain too vigorously. But editing out my compliments too ... well, it seems that all that's welcome here are saccharine expressions of generic sorrow, which isn't very interesting to me, so I'm out.

What's appropriate here are expressions of how people feel in the wake of tragic news, not summary statements about irrelevant and long-resolved incidents of indiscretion.

Don't dismiss these peoples' expressions as generic or insincere; you have neither the insight to make that evaluation nor the clout for anyone to be particularly interested in whether their sentiments move you.

Also, it's my opinion that people often can be more fairly and fully judged after that passage of time. So I think you're flat out wrong to think that his boorish younger behavior was resolved at the time.

It was resolved legally, and anything beyond that is none of your business, since you're not party to anyone who was involved.

But this thread isn't the place or time to discuss that matter, regardless its state of resolution.

Fencer reregistered wrote:Oops. There I go discussing again. But in my defense, you expressed an opinion in this supposedly opinion-free thread, and I was responding directly to it.

If you'd posted your opinion about the price of oil, you'd have been similarly-rebuffed, because that topic is not relevant to this thread.

This isn't about discouraging opinions or discussion; it's about keeping discourse on-topic. What this man did 16 years ago is not relevant to the fact that he died today.

Respectfully, let's agree to disagree and drop it. If you insist on pressing the matter further, PM me.

Pharmcat · Post #1564 » by **Pharmcat** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:54 am

Kawhi Hands wrote:
alienswon wrote:https://www.tmz.com/

4:30 PM PT -- L.A. weather was extremely foggy Sunday morning, and law enforcement sources tell us even LAPD air support was grounded because of it. Flight tracker data shows Kobe's chopper appeared to first encounter weather issues as it was above the L.A. Zoo. It circled that area at least 6 times at a very low altitude -- around 875 feet -- perhaps waiting for the fog to clear.

We know the pilot contacted the control tower at Burbank Airport around 9:30 AM PT, and the tower was aware the pilot had been circling for about 15 minutes. The pilot eventually headed north along the 118 freeway before turning to the west, and started following above the 101 freeway around Woodland Hills, CA.

At around 9:40 AM they encounter more weather -- as in seriously heavy fog -- and the chopper turned south. This was critical, because they turned toward a mountainous area. The pilot suddenly and rapidly climbed from about 1200 feet up to 2000 feet.

However, moments later -- around 9:45 AM -- they flew into a mountain at 1700 feet. Flight tracker data shows they were flying at about 161 knots.

to think that it could have potentially been avoided.

helicopters are not airplanes and struggle more with rain/fog/snow.

The pilot should not have taken off if there was so much fog. Tmz said lapd helicopter was grounded because of fog.

carlquincy · Post #1565 » by **carlquincy** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:55 am

Rip Kobe. My favorite player in any sports.

RoyceDa59 · Post #1566 » by **RoyceDa59** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:57 am

At the gym trying to rip it up in honour of you Mamba. 8 reps per set. It’s hard man, Kobe’s passing hits different.

RealGM and the bball community will honour your legacy for ever bro - rest peacefully.

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tarantism · Post #1567 » by **tarantism** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:57 am

Pharmcat wrote:
Kawhi Hands wrote:
alienswon wrote:https://www.tmz.com/

4:30 PM PT -- L.A. weather was extremely foggy Sunday morning, and law enforcement sources tell us even LAPD air support was grounded because of it. Flight tracker data shows Kobe's chopper appeared to first encounter weather issues as it was above the L.A. Zoo. It circled that area at least 6 times at a very low altitude -- around 875 feet -- perhaps waiting for the fog to clear.

We know the pilot contacted the control tower at Burbank Airport around 9:30 AM PT, and the tower was aware the pilot had been circling for about 15 minutes. The pilot eventually headed north along the 118 freeway before turning to the west, and started following above the 101 freeway around Woodland Hills, CA.

At around 9:40 AM they encounter more weather -- as in seriously heavy fog -- and the chopper turned south. This was critical, because they turned toward a mountainous area. The pilot suddenly and rapidly climbed from about 1200 feet up to 2000 feet.

However, moments later -- around 9:45 AM -- they flew into a mountain at 1700 feet. Flight tracker data shows they were flying at about 161 knots.

to think that it could have potentially been avoided.

helicopters are not airplanes and struggle more with rain/fog/snow.

The pilot should not have taken off if there was so much fog. Tmz said lapd helicopter was grounded because of fog.

Tragedy is not the time to start pointing fingers. I'm sure that if they took off then everybody in charge of the helicopter had a say, not just the pilot.

One of the saddest stories I can remember hearing. I feel especially horrible for the children involved.

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Myth · Post #1568 » by **Myth** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:58 am

I already posted this in the Blazers forum, but I'll post it here as well. As a Blazer fan, I hated Kobe (fandom hate, not real hate). That hate obviously mostly stemmed from frustration of losing to him and the Lakers, which is also one of the reasons I respected him. I never would have predicted being as emotional as I am today hearing Kobe has died, but here I am, watching Kobe stuff for hours and just feeling like ****. It additionally sucks that his daughter died, as well as several others.

Repeat 3-peat · Post #1569 » by **Repeat 3-peat** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:59 am

Read on Twitter

JellosJigglin · Post #1570 » by **JellosJigglin** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:59 am

Mamba4Goat wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

What an awesome move.

That is amazing. Respect to Cuban and the Mavs.

Sebastian · Post #1571 » by **Sebastian** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:00 am

Patches Perry wrote:I would love to see the NBA update NBA logo from West to Kobe. It would surely garner unanimous support.

I don't think it would. If it ever gets changed it will be for Jordan. But I don't think they will ever alter it. It's an iconic design.

djsunyc · Post #1572 » by **djsunyc** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:00 am

Roy The Natural wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:
Mamba4Goat wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

What an awesome move.

I believe the other 28 teams should follow suit retire either #8 or #24 if not already taken

100% agree.

it's an absolutely tragic ending but i don't think teams have to do something like this for him. alot of other nba greats have died as well and weren't honored in this manner.

i think naming something league wide after him would be a nice gesture but i don't think teams have to do things at that level.

Black Watch · Post #1573 » by **Black Watch** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:00 am

Wow. This is really sad. I feel bad now for all the times I debated the merits of his career...

Really puts into perspective what's important.

What a tragedy... R.I.P. Kobe

Pharmcat · Post #1574 » by **Pharmcat** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:01 am

Stillwater wrote:The best thing you can do to honor his memory is to be silent, but live in a way the reflects how he inspired you. Strong willed men are easy to follow, but men with heart who have that relentless drive and desire are those of legend because few with that trait ever fail at much and so when a tragedy like this happens it's even more shocking despite these types of things happening in the world often

Another way would be to call someone you have had a disagreement with and work it out . If he could work it out with shaq then so can we with our friends/family. Life is too short.

goodboy · Post #1575 » by **goodboy** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:02 am

youngthegiant · Post #1576 » by **youngthegiant** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:03 am

Hm I'm against the norm on every team retiring 24. So many players love Kobe and respect him. Wearing #24 is a way to keep his memory alive forever. It means so much to kids and others who grew up watching him and they should be able to wear 24 to honor their hero.

The Explorer · Post #1577 » by **The Explorer** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:03 am

This is just crazy man. I still can't believe Kobe Bryant is no longer with us. Can't imagine how his 3 other daughters and his wife are dealing with this.

Post #1578 » by **Dadouv47** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:03 am

Mamba4Goat wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

What an awesome move.

Class act but wonder if Kobe wouldn't want young players to wear his number (like people wear #23 for MJ).

Still a very nice move from Cuban.

Floody100 · Post #1579 » by **Floody100** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:04 am

Roy The Natural wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:
Mamba4Goat wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

What an awesome move.

I believe the other 28 teams should follow suit retire either #8 or #24 if not already taken

100% agree.

Boston fan here. We already have #24 retired but I would love too see us retire #8.

lakerz12 · Post #1580 » by **lakerz12** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:04 am

basketballRob wrote:
SkyHook wrote:Nothing but sympathy for Vanessa Bryant and her daughters. Tragic for them to have to grow up without their father at their side.
The youngest daughter was also killed in the crash.

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His 7 month old daughter?

No. So far it is only known that Gianna, his 13 year old (second oldest) daughter was with him.