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Game 46: Los Angeles Lakers (36-9) @ Philadelphia Sixers (29-17) - 8:30 PM ET

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Re: Game 46: Los Angeles Lakers (36-9) @ Philadelphia Sixers (29-17) - 8:30 PM ET 

Post#141 » by thebigbird » Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:35 pm

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Spanish_Laker wrote:On one hand, it is just a loss, we got outplayed. On the other hand, we can't beat very good teams.

And on that hand, that goes on your star. He has yet to show up and dominate a Giannis or Kawhi who are stars, not even a Simmons or Tatum who have next. Kobe in year 17 didn't try for the counting stats like Bron with the assists, he went to dominate relentlessly, it cost his a lot with the achilles, but Kobe was still going at teams trying to break them and the star versus him whereas Bron is shying away from those challenges in every big matchup.

And that is not on AD, that is on Bron, same way failures were left at Kobe's feet for Pau

This just isn't accurate at all.
VS Butler both times
VS Luka in 3/4 matchups
VS Jokic
VS Harden/Westbrook

But yeah, Lebron is "shying away from those challenges in every big matchup." :noway:
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Re: Game 46: Los Angeles Lakers (36-9) @ Philadelphia Sixers (29-17) - 8:30 PM ET 

Post#142 » by Landsberger » Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:56 pm

Dr Aki wrote:man, we're soft

we need a couple of dogs that aren't afraid to get physical


I've always been a fan of Faried. I wanted him in the offseason for just this reason. He's pure energy..... not a great player but one that brings what he has every night.
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Re: Game 46: Los Angeles Lakers (36-9) @ Philadelphia Sixers (29-17) - 8:30 PM ET 

Post#143 » by Landsberger » Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:57 pm

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Dr Aki wrote:man, we're soft

we need a couple of dogs that aren't afraid to get physical


That's supposed to be Dwight... But since the dunk contest thing, he's more interested in being the people's champion rather than our enforcer inside.


nah, that was never Howard. That's the exact reason why shaq had/has a problem with him. The guy with the attitude that we need is boogie.


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Re: Game 46: Los Angeles Lakers (36-9) @ Philadelphia Sixers (29-17) - 8:30 PM ET 

Post#144 » by kblo247 » Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:22 pm

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kblo247 wrote:
Spanish_Laker wrote:On one hand, it is just a loss, we got outplayed. On the other hand, we can't beat very good teams.

And on that hand, that goes on your star. He has yet to show up and dominate a Giannis or Kawhi who are stars, not even a Simmons or Tatum who have next. Kobe in year 17 didn't try for the counting stats like Bron with the assists, he went to dominate relentlessly, it cost his a lot with the achilles, but Kobe was still going at teams trying to break them and the star versus him whereas Bron is shying away from those challenges in every big matchup.

And that is not on AD, that is on Bron, same way failures were left at Kobe's feet for Pau

This just isn't accurate at all.
VS Butler both times
VS Luka in 3/4 matchups
VS Jokic
VS Harden/Westbrook

But yeah, Lebron is "shying away from those challenges in every big matchup." :noway:


Jimmy, Joker, and Luka ain't in the same class as Kawhi or Freek

And we aren't talking about I pad stats Russ who loses all the time and no one expects anything from or spam a free throw Harden, who again no one with sense expects anything from. The fact is he shied all the way away from Kawhi both match and Freak, didn't defend them, didn't outplay them, and tried to downplay his ass whipping. Ben Simmons came at him all night and Ben defended him while Bron hid from him and went on Horford who exploited him on switches and his close out and switch mistakes late with their two man game, and he also didn't take Tobias either. '

Playing Dallas and Houston isn't close to playing Phili, Bucks, Clippers who have actual title chances.

And Tatum is just sad because he doesn't understand Lakers-Celtics and didn't get that Celtic ass, instead got dunked on, got blown out on national tv, and made excuses about why he should be ok with seeing his son's game over being a professional and about the team when his focus and lack of energy got questioned by the media
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Re: Game 46: Los Angeles Lakers (36-9) @ Philadelphia Sixers (29-17) - 8:30 PM ET 

Post#145 » by thebigbird » Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:43 pm

kblo247 wrote:
thebigbird wrote:
kblo247 wrote:And on that hand, that goes on your star. He has yet to show up and dominate a Giannis or Kawhi who are stars, not even a Simmons or Tatum who have next. Kobe in year 17 didn't try for the counting stats like Bron with the assists, he went to dominate relentlessly, it cost his a lot with the achilles, but Kobe was still going at teams trying to break them and the star versus him whereas Bron is shying away from those challenges in every big matchup.

And that is not on AD, that is on Bron, same way failures were left at Kobe's feet for Pau

This just isn't accurate at all.
VS Butler both times
VS Luka in 3/4 matchups
VS Jokic
VS Harden/Westbrook

But yeah, Lebron is "shying away from those challenges in every big matchup." :noway:


Jimmy, Joker, and Luka ain't in the same class as Kawhi or Freek

And we aren't talking about I pad stats Russ who loses all the time and no one expects anything from or spam a free throw Harden, who again no one with sense expects anything from. The fact is he shied all the way away from Kawhi both match and Freak, didn't defend them, didn't outplay them, and tried to downplay his ass whipping. Ben Simmons came at him all night and Ben defended him while Bron hid from him and went on Horford who exploited him on switches and his close out and switch mistakes late with their two man game, and he also didn't take Tobias either. '

Playing Dallas and Houston isn't close to playing Phili, Bucks, Clippers who have actual title chances.

And Tatum is just sad because he doesn't understand Lakers-Celtics and didn't get that Celtic ass, instead got dunked on, got blown out on national tv, and made excuses about why he should be ok with seeing his son's game over being a professional and about the team when his focus and lack of energy got questioned by the media

So Philly has "actual title chances" despite being 6th in the east, but Houston and Dallas, at 5th and 6th in the west, don't?

You said "not even a Simmons or Tatum who have next" to make it look like Lebron just completely sucks against any good player he faces. Yet he's outplayed Butler, Jokic, and Luka this season. He's also outplayed Harden and Westbrook, beating them on the road without AD. Outplayed Kyrie the other night. Outplayed KAT. All of those guys are better than either Simmons or Tatum. But that doesn't fit your narrative.

Lebron is 35 and you're getting mad that he doesn't attack the rim all game every game and guard the other team's best player all game every game. Do you want him fresh for the playoffs, or do you want him going balls to the walls in a random game in January? You're not getting both at this stage in his career. Sure, he sucked in a handful of games this year. Yet, the Lakers have a 3.5 game lead for first place and the second best record in the league right now. He must be doing something right.
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Re: Game 46: Los Angeles Lakers (36-9) @ Philadelphia Sixers (29-17) - 8:30 PM ET 

Post#146 » by rzzzzz » Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:24 pm

Kilroy wrote:
Sushisensei26 wrote:Honestly think we matchup better with Embiid playing, actually....


if Embiid comes back playing on the perimeter. but if Brett starts running PnRs for him like he did with Ben....
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Re: Game 46: Los Angeles Lakers (36-9) @ Philadelphia Sixers (29-17) - 8:30 PM ET 

Post#147 » by Kilroy » Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:28 pm

rzzzzz wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
Sushisensei26 wrote:Honestly think we matchup better with Embiid playing, actually....


if Embiid comes back playing on the perimeter. but if Brett starts running PnRs for him like he did with Ben....


That plays into our interior strength... You guys feasted by attacking from the 3pt line, using Harris and Simmons. Our only real perimeter defender of any appropriate size is Green.
If you switch to an inside/out attack via Embiid, he's going to have to deal with both Davis and Howard inside... If you have him face up, he has to go against maybe the best face-up defending big in the league in Davis.
Not only that, but Embiid clogs the lane and makes it more difficult to attack.

Even though we played like crap that game, I think you want the offense to run through Simmons/Harris against us. Not through Embiid. And you want the floor spread as much as humanly possible.
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Re: Game 46: Los Angeles Lakers (36-9) @ Philadelphia Sixers (29-17) - 8:30 PM ET 

Post#148 » by rzzzzz » Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:09 am

Kilroy wrote:That plays into our interior strength... You guys feasted by attacking from the 3pt line, using Harris and Simmons. Our only real perimeter defender of any appropriate size is Green.
If you switch to an inside/out attack via Embiid, he's going to have to deal with both Davis and Howard inside... If you have him face up, he has to go against maybe the best face-up defending big in the league in Davis.
Not only that, but Embiid clogs the lane and makes it more difficult to attack.

Even though we played like crap that game, I think you want the offense to run through Simmons/Harris against us. Not through Embiid. And you want the floor spread as much as humanly possible.


more than fair point. AD is fantastic and Howard still has gas in the tank. i just believe that when Biid is healthy, and if he is properly deployed, he's a beast. a huge, athletic phenom. (which we haven't really seen since those back to back games at Staples a couple of years ago.) but i admit extreme fan bias.

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