Kobe Bryant Discussion, Part Two

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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion, Part Two 

Post#881 » by clyde21 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:16 pm

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clyde21 wrote:this has probably been the toughest celebrity death for me by far, even tougher than Mohammed Ali because it was so sudden and tragic

and i'm not usually affected really by celebrity deaths because perspective, but this one was real rough.


It reminds me of Tupac. These guys had an energy and a character that was larger than life.

I don't know if we'll ever get over it completely. Basketball will be a constant reminder of Kobe for fans on here for decades.


yea, I still feel 2pac's death, but I was like 8 when it happened so i didn't get the full scope
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion, Part Two 

Post#882 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:18 pm

I’ve never really been too upset over a celebrity death. Even though I wasn’t a huge Kobe fan, I spent many hours watching him play. I spent time with friends and family making memories that are a part of who I am and even though I never knew him personally, Kobe was part of those. I suspect that is why so many of us are somewhat caught off guard with how we feel. A chapter of our own lives was abruptly ended and we weren’t ready.
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion, Part Two 

Post#883 » by Feed Your Head » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:18 pm

This is pretty tough to watch, he can't even make eye contact with anyone.

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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion, Part Two 

Post#884 » by 13th Man » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:19 pm

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13th Man wrote:family while quietly helping out young players without all of the fanfare and glory. People that know him said that was very happy and at peace at this stage of his life. This was supposed to be the best time of his life, getting to spend time with his daughters while continuing to make a huge impact on so many youngsters.

Man.....this is just nof fair....of all the people this just isn't right.


It's strange that so many people I have known died right after they achieved their peak happiness in life.

Maybe life is all about the struggle after all. Depressing to think about. :(


What makes this more sad is that I'm pretty sure that Kobe hasn't even reached his peak happiness yet. The way that he talked about Gigi and how she wanted to play in the WNBA one day...... there was just so much more to be had :(
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion, Part Two 

Post#885 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:22 pm

It’s also crazy that this happened they day before the anniversary of the Oklahoma state men’s basketball team plane crash anniversary. I realize that isn’t a huge story nationally but when I found out about Kobe, that’s the only thing I could compare it to. Then yesterday I was reading that Monday was actually the 18th anniversary of it.
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Post#886 » by bondom34 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:23 pm

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Post#887 » by TrillyandTruly » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:28 pm

JayMKE wrote:Postponing the game is not appropriate, I think the show always has to go on. Kobe would have wanted to play.


Who's to say what's appropriate? LA fans wouldn't even care about the game. The players don't have their head on straight. And most importantly, all the Lakers are thinking about are Vanessa and the kids. Her feelings, wishes, grief, means the most right now and the Lakers and league should respect it.
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion, Part Two 

Post#888 » by NyKnicks1714 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:31 pm

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JayMKE wrote:Postponing the game is not appropriate, I think the show always has to go on. Kobe would have wanted to play.


Who's to say what's appropriate? LA fans wouldn't even care about the game. The players don't have their head on straight. And most importantly, all the Lakers are thinking about are Vanessa and the kids. Her feelings, wishes, grief, means the most right now and the Lakers and league should respect it.


I hate when people say "X would have wanted it that way". One, you don't know what a deceased person would have wanted. Two, it doesn't matter. What matters is how something is going to impact the the people who were close with that person.
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion, Part Two 

Post#889 » by zimpy27 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:34 pm

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clyde21 wrote:this has probably been the toughest celebrity death for me by far, even tougher than Mohammed Ali because it was so sudden and tragic

and i'm not usually affected really by celebrity deaths because perspective, but this one was real rough.


It reminds me of Tupac. These guys had an energy and a character that was larger than life.

I don't know if we'll ever get over it completely. Basketball will be a constant reminder of Kobe for fans on here for decades.


yea, I still feel 2pac's death, but I was like 8 when it happened so i didn't get the full scope


It was devastating for fans and there was a lot of anger for sure. It was a tragedy.

As we see the greats of Kobe's era age, Kobe's will remain forever young. We probably wait another 40 years before another great of his generation passes as well.
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion, Part Two 

Post#890 » by TrillyandTruly » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:35 pm

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TrillyandTruly wrote:
JayMKE wrote:Postponing the game is not appropriate, I think the show always has to go on. Kobe would have wanted to play.


Who's to say what's appropriate? LA fans wouldn't even care about the game. The players don't have their head on straight. And most importantly, all the Lakers are thinking about are Vanessa and the kids. Her feelings, wishes, grief, means the most right now and the Lakers and league should respect it.


I hate when people say "X would have wanted it that way". One, you don't know what a deceased person would have wanted. Two, it doesn't matter. What matters is how something is going to impact the the people who were close with that person.

Exactly. You have to set aside basketball in a tragic time like this and respect the people who I would say, are the most affected by this situation.

Basketball and Lakers' fans are mourning for selfish reasons. Can't even begin to imagine what the Bryant family is going through.
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Post#891 » by First Take » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:43 pm

I do not like that these players are not wearing #24 or #8. Like stop it. You guys are no where as good as Kobe, keep your jersey number and play, non of you guys will be better than Kobe.
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion, Part Two 

Post#892 » by KNICKS1970 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:46 pm

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TrillyandTruly wrote:
JayMKE wrote:Postponing the game is not appropriate, I think the show always has to go on. Kobe would have wanted to play.


Who's to say what's appropriate? LA fans wouldn't even care about the game. The players don't have their head on straight. And most importantly, all the Lakers are thinking about are Vanessa and the kids. Her feelings, wishes, grief, means the most right now and the Lakers and league should respect it.


I hate when people say "X would have wanted it that way". One, you don't know what a deceased person would have wanted. Two, it doesn't matter. What matters is how something is going to impact the the people who were close with that person.


I remember Michael Jordan and Larry Bird saying after the Magic HIV news broke that they didn't feel like playing and were just going through the motions that night. It's just unrealistic for anyone who's experienced a tragedy to a loved one, especially in a shocking way, to just put all of that aside.
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion, Part Two 

Post#893 » by MagicBagley18 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:47 pm

First Take wrote:I do not like that these players are not wearing #24 or #8. Like stop it. You guys are no where as good as Kobe, keep your jersey number and play, non of you guys will be better than Kobe.


don't you think them not wearing is respect and an admission that they'll never be as good as kobe and they think no one is worthy of wearing that number again?

i think your reaching if you think it means anything more than them paying respect
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion, Part Two 

Post#894 » by NapoleonII » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:06 pm

I still can't believe it.

The tragedy of this is gonna sit with me a long time, especially since I lost my dad when I was very young and saw my mother and siblings move through that loss too.

Man, I just wish Kobe had more time post-retirement.
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion, Part Two 

Post#895 » by Fico92 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:08 pm

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First Take wrote:I do not like that these players are not wearing #24 or #8. Like stop it. You guys are no where as good as Kobe, keep your jersey number and play, non of you guys will be better than Kobe.


don't you think them not wearing is respect and an admission that they'll never be as good as kobe and they think no one is worthy of wearing that number again?

i think your reaching if you think it means anything more than them paying respect


I think he literally had to try to be offended by that. Like, cmon, it's obviously a sign of respect, tf?
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Re: Kobe Bryant Discussion, Part Two 

Post#896 » by jbent87 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:16 pm

First Take wrote:I do not like that these players are not wearing #24 or #8. Like stop it. You guys are no where as good as Kobe, keep your jersey number and play, non of you guys will be better than Kobe.

...this is precisely why they're choosing to not wear it :facepalm:
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Post#897 » by Sedale Threatt » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:25 pm

SOUL wrote:Saw a good post from Derrick Williams:

"He was the most misunderstood basketball player ever and it was because his tenacity, aggression, work ethic that ultimately made you uncomfortable. Who trains like this ? How ? Why would you do that? Ultimately you become better then your idols and that’s what he became to many people from LA. With that said , only two words could describe him , Black Mamba.
One story I want to share is when I go to workout with Kobe. I sent him a text and said Kobe can i get a workout in with you tomorrow? I want to be a better player. He responds “6:30AM Irvine Spectrum” I meet him there but he wasn’t sleepy eyed like I was so I was confused as hell. We lift for 1hr 15 mins , abs another 45 mins , then we hop on the court for an hour. “D Will we are going to work on go to moves , I’ma show you counters and everything and I’m going to rebound for you” for a hour he ran and chased makes and misses to see me get better. I asked him why aren’t you going to shoot ? He said “young fella I’ve been up since 4 , I already shot and ran on the track before I met you here” Thats when I knew I was working with a different animal. Thank you @kobebryant for the ever lasting memories and for what you have done for my generation of basketball players and inspiring athletes. Prayers to the Bryant family."


I'll bet almost everybody in the NBA has a Kobe story like this. Chris Bosh's from the Olympics:

On the first practice day with that team, I went down to get breakfast before we took the bus over to the gym. There I was, thinking I was pretty early and feeling good about myself and Kobe’s already there. He gets up, says hello and walks out to get ready for practice. The most interesting thing I noticed was that he had ice bags on his knees. I later found out that he’d already gotten his workout in and was pretty much waiting for our practice to start. Mind you, this was less than two weeks after the Lakers lost in the Finals to the Celtics, and there he was, working out and practicing like a maniac. He had every reason to rest up and just focus on being healthy for the Olympics. But every day in practice, he brought it. Every day, he was trying to be the best among the best.

We went to the village to hang out a few times while the Olympic Games were going on, and I remember everybody walking through the arcade that they’d set up for the athletes. There were a bunch of games, but in particular, they had those mini pop-a-shot basketball games that you can find in just about every arcade in the world. Kobe and Michael Redd started playing, and things got competitive. After a few games, I got tired of watching, so I left to meet up with some friends. I had to have been gone for a couple of hours. When it was almost time to head back to the hotel, I stopped by the arcade again and those guys were still playing! Both of them were in a full sweat with a focus like it was a real game. That was pretty funny to me because I’d always heard about how competitive Kobe was and in that moment, I got to witness it for myself.


Even as a Lakers fan, I always had a love-hate with Kobe. I was never a Jordan guy (while he was playing at least; now I'm super grateful I got to watch him play) so having a star cut from exactly the same cloth wasn't always easy. It's just an aesthetic thing. Magic Johnson was my man, and I just prefer pass-first type players, which is why I also like LeBron so much. When his shots were falling, Kobe could be absolutely jaw-dropping. But I spent hundreds of nights over the years agonizing over his shot selection and hero-ball tendencies. The fact that he gave himself all his own nicknames also speaks for itself.

Anyways, I mention this simply to say the one area I never, ever doubted him was his work ethic and dedication. Very, very few pro athletes can get by on raw talent alone. Or if they can, they're still not maximizing their full potential. (Love you Shaq, but looking at you.) Even the best have to work their ass off to hone their craft and get better. Many do, but in this area, it was pretty clear he was a cut above. You'd hear stories about how maniacal Jordan and Magic and Bird were about working on their games, and Kobe somehow might have been even more so. As a sports fan, you can only hope your guys care even half as much as he did. Was a big part of that drive to benefit his own legacy? Yeah. But we still reaped so, so many rewards. As somebody who isn't particularly competitive or driven, his personality fascinated me.

I think that's a big reason he seemed so at peace with retirement. For 20 years he left absolutely everything he had on the court -- in games, in practice, in the film room, in the weight room, everywhere. That must be an amazing feeling to look back on your life's passion and say, with total honesty, I gave it all I had. Almost none of us will be able to say that -- hell, most of us don't even have a passion -- but he could. And then the fact that he didn't seem to have neglected his family and other relationships in the process ... what more could you ask for?
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Post#898 » by ratul » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:28 pm

Day three: RIP Kobe and Gigi
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Post#899 » by Archx » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:32 pm

Shaq talking about Kobe.

"Hey, i got 4 rings and i know i couldn't have gotten 3 without him".

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