Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7

payitforward · Post #821 » by **payitforward** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:59 pm

Right... What's the benefit? Who gets released? So that we can enjoy the end-of-career phase of Shumpert?

Post #822 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:04 pm

closg00 wrote:
tontoz wrote:I didn't think any team would be dumb enough to start Melo in his first game after not having played for so long. I stand corrected.

Gotta love this statline:

3-10 from the field, 4 fouls and 5 turnovers so far.

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Jaxon Hayes is nasty, he would have been a good fit with Trae Young

Great athlete - Hayes could become a real good once he adds more strength and focuses more on the defensive boards. He's an excellent offensive rebounder but a terrible defensive rebounder. Looking forward to seeing that team with Zion... next season.

Post #823 » by **LyricalRico** » Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:08 pm

The Utah Jazz have agreed to trade guard Dante Exum and two second-round picks to the Cleveland Cavaliers for guard Jordan Clarkson, league sources told ESPN.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28362393/sources-jazz-agree-deal-dante-exum-picks-cavaliers-jordan-clarkson

Was completely unfamiliar with Exum when he was first drafted, and really didn't understand them resigning him. Not sure what Cleveland will get out of him, but Utah at least gets somebody that can give them consistent minutes with Conley out.

I gotta think there's pressure on the Jazz to actually make some noice this year. They were the next big thing a few seasons ago, but have since been passed by Denver and now Dallas with Doncic. Let's see if Clarkson helps them stay afloat, and then maybe go on a run when Conley gets back.

gambitx777 · Post #824 » by **gambitx777** » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:54 am

This is one of the strangest trades ive seen in a while. Crab has little to no value and you would assume Jeff T would have some value. This is an oddball lateral move.i guess crab can spot up and shoot 3s and I guess Jeff will be a good back up for young at this point. And the wolfs get a spot open .

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Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #825 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:24 am

gambitx777 wrote:This is one of the strangest trades ive seen in a while. Crab has little to no value and you would assume Jeff T would have some value. This is an oddball lateral move.i guess crab can spot up and shoot 3s and I guess Jeff will be a good back up for young at this point. And the wolfs get a spot open .

Right, gambitx777.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28496583/hawks-acquire-jeff-teague-treveon-graham-timberwolves-allen-crabbe

Minnesota creates an open roster spot that could be useful in bigger trades before the Feb. 6 deadline.

The Hawks have been scouring the marketplace for a backup point guard to ease the burden of Trae Young. The Hawks have an offensive rating of 108.2 with Young on the floor, and 90.7 off it.

Teague and Crabbe are on expiring contracts. Teague, 31, played the first seven years of his career with Atlanta.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/crabbal01.html

Crabbe's been traded a bunch of times. Yesterday makes the fifth time he's been traded. EDITED: Technically, the first was a pre-draft trade and the second was a draft day trade. So, this is his third trade.

June 23, 2011: Traded by the Orlando Magic (as a future 2013 2nd round draft pick) with a 2014 2nd round draft pick (Joe Harris was later selected) to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Justin Harper.

June 27, 2013: Drafted by the Cleveland Cavaliers in the 2nd round (31st pick) of the 2013 NBA Draft.

June 27, 2013: Traded by the Cleveland Cavaliers to the Portland Trail Blazers for a 2015 2nd round draft pick (Sir'Dominic Pointer was later selected) and a 2016 2nd round draft pick (Paul Zipser was later selected).

March 10, 2014: Assigned to the Idaho Stampede of the G-League.

March 16, 2014: Recalled from the Idaho Stampede of the G-League.

March 25, 2014: Assigned to the Idaho Stampede of the G-League.

March 31, 2014: Recalled from the Idaho Stampede of the G-League.

July 10, 2016: Signed a multi-year contract with the Portland Trail Blazers

July 25, 2017: Traded by the Portland Trail Blazers to the Brooklyn Nets for Andrew Nicholson.

February 5, 2019: Assigned to the Long Island Nets of the G-League.

February 5, 2019: Recalled from the Long Island Nets of the G-League.

July 6, 2019: Traded by the Brooklyn Nets with Nickeil Alexander-Walker and a 2020 1st round draft pick to the Atlanta Hawks for Taurean Prince and a 2021 2nd round draft pick. (top-14 protected)

November 7, 2019: Assigned to the College Park Skyhawks of the G-League.

November 7, 2019: Recalled from the College Park Skyhawks of the G-League.

gambitx777 · Post #826 » by **gambitx777** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:35 am

One of those trades that ignore market value and just swap stuff

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:This is one of the strangest trades ive seen in a while. Crab has little to no value and you would assume Jeff T would have some value. This is an oddball lateral move.i guess crab can spot up and shoot 3s and I guess Jeff will be a good back up for young at this point. And the wolfs get a spot open .

Right, gambitx777.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28496583/hawks-acquire-jeff-teague-treveon-graham-timberwolves-allen-crabbe

Minnesota creates an open roster spot that could be useful in bigger trades before the Feb. 6 deadline.

The Hawks have been scouring the marketplace for a backup point guard to ease the burden of Trae Young. The Hawks have an offensive rating of 108.2 with Young on the floor, and 90.7 off it.

Teague and Crabbe are on expiring contracts. Teague, 31, played the first seven years of his career with Atlanta.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/crabbal01.html

Crabbe's been traded a bunch of times. Yesterday makes the fifth time he's been traded.

June 23, 2011: Traded by the Orlando Magic (as a future 2013 2nd round draft pick) with a 2014 2nd round draft pick (Joe Harris was later selected) to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Justin Harper.

June 27, 2013: Drafted by the Cleveland Cavaliers in the 2nd round (31st pick) of the 2013 NBA Draft.

June 27, 2013: Traded by the Cleveland Cavaliers to the Portland Trail Blazers for a 2015 2nd round draft pick (Sir'Dominic Pointer was later selected) and a 2016 2nd round draft pick (Paul Zipser was later selected).

March 10, 2014: Assigned to the Idaho Stampede of the G-League.

March 16, 2014: Recalled from the Idaho Stampede of the G-League.

March 25, 2014: Assigned to the Idaho Stampede of the G-League.

March 31, 2014: Recalled from the Idaho Stampede of the G-League.

July 10, 2016: Signed a multi-year contract with the Portland Trail Blazers

July 25, 2017: Traded by the Portland Trail Blazers to the Brooklyn Nets for Andrew Nicholson.

February 5, 2019: Assigned to the Long Island Nets of the G-League.

February 5, 2019: Recalled from the Long Island Nets of the G-League.

July 6, 2019: Traded by the Brooklyn Nets with Nickeil Alexander-Walker and a 2020 1st round draft pick to the Atlanta Hawks for Taurean Prince and a 2021 2nd round draft pick. (top-14 protected)

November 7, 2019: Assigned to the College Park Skyhawks of the G-League.

November 7, 2019: Recalled from the College Park Skyhawks of the G-League.

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gambitx777 · Post #827 » by **gambitx777** » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:28 am

Solid move for Portland. Imo they get some young talent to replace the course of toliver and ariza should be an upgrade over Kent at this point.

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Post #828 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:14 pm

At the beginning of the season, I said Memphis could be a playoff team NEXT season, and a couple of posters said I was jumping the gun. Well, they're .500 now and are 2.5 games ahead of San Antonio for the 8th seed in the West. Dillon Brooks has been a find for them.

Lol at the Knicks for thinking it was appropriate to start a brawl because Jae Crowder took a 3 with 48 seconds left. Shocking that one of the Morris twins was involved. :crazy:

I_Like_Dirt · Post #829 » by **I_Like_Dirt** » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:59 pm

You said this season, not next season, Ruz. It still might happen, too, as the bottom of the west has cratered this season and 8th is totally up for grabs. But you definitely said this season before backing off when those other posters pushed you on the issue and suggesting maybe it'd be a tad longer.

gambitx777 · Post #830 » by **gambitx777** » Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:23 pm

Ingudala should just play for them lol

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closg00 · Post #831 » by **closg00** » Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:01 pm

Ruzious wrote:At the beginning of the season, I said Memphis could be a playoff team NEXT season, and a couple of posters said I was jumping the gun. Well, they're .500 now and are 2.5 games ahead of San Antonio for the 8th seed in the West. Dillon Brooks has been a find for them.

Lol at the Knicks for thinking it was appropriate to start a brawl because Jae Crowder took a 3 with 48 seconds left. Shocking that one of the Morris twins was involved.

I was noticing Memphis in the playoff hunt as-well, they really did a great job on the talent front.

Post #832 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:04 pm

I_Like_Dirt wrote:You said this season, not next season, Ruz. It still might happen, too, as the bottom of the west has cratered this season and 8th is totally up for grabs. But you definitely said this season before backing off when those other posters pushed you on the issue and suggesting maybe it'd be a tad longer.

I'd be bragging more if I said this season, so I'm not gonna bother look it up. :lol:

Tbh, I can't imagine thinking they'd make the playoffs this season - because they had no jump shooters starting the season, but they're 2.5 games ahead of 9th place SA.

closg00 · Post #833 » by **closg00** » Sat Feb 1, 2020 9:01 pm

Suns moved Kelly to PF, this was his 1st game at PF

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gambitx777 · Post #834 » by **gambitx777** » Sun Feb 2, 2020 2:54 am

That's fine against OKC who doesn't have a big physical PF to guard him but he would get abused by the many teams that have those.

closg00 wrote:Suns moved Kelly to PF, this was his 1st game at PF

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gambitx777 · Post #835 » by **gambitx777** » Thu Feb 6, 2020 8:16 am

The heat might get Gallo and Iggy and the only real piece they are giving up is Winslow. Holly **** ! I think they are giving a future first and unprotecting that pick owed to OKC to make it all work. Man if they can pull this off they might just have enough in the tank to take it to the bucks after all .

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Post #836 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Feb 6, 2020 1:30 pm

gambitx777 wrote:The heat might get Gallo and Iggy and the only real piece they are giving up is Winslow. Holly **** ! I think they are giving a future first and unprotecting that pick owed to OKC to make it all work. Man if they can pull this off they might just have enough in the tank to take it to the bucks after all .

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I think Miami screwed up giving Iggy 2 years totaling 30 mil. He's 36 years old and doesn't score. Yeah, he's been a great defender, but at his age, he's bound to lose a step or 2 at any time.

payitforward · Post #837 » by **payitforward** » Thu Feb 6, 2020 1:43 pm

Philly just got Glenn Robinson & Alec Burks for 3 R2 picks. I think those are 2 quite under-rated players. Good for them.

But... bad for us! Why? B/c Elton Brand under-values R2 picks, & I'd been hoping he'd be there to sell us an extra one every year until he gets fired!

Post #838 » by **nate33** » Thu Feb 6, 2020 2:44 pm

Ruzious wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:The heat might get Gallo and Iggy and the only real piece they are giving up is Winslow. Holly **** ! I think they are giving a future first and unprotecting that pick owed to OKC to make it all work. Man if they can pull this off they might just have enough in the tank to take it to the bucks after all .

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I think Miami screwed up giving Iggy 2 years totaling 30 mil. He's 36 years old and doesn't score. Yeah, he's been a great defender, but at his age, he's bound to lose a step or 2 at any time.

It's really only a 1-year deal. The 2nd year is a team option which the Heat will surely decline.

Post #839 » by **nate33** » Thu Feb 6, 2020 2:45 pm

payitforward wrote:Philly just got Glenn Robinson & Alec Burks for 3 R2 picks. I think those are 2 quite under-rated players. Good for them.

But... bad for us! Why? B/c Elton Brand under-values R2 picks, & I'd been hoping he'd be there to sell us an extra one every year until he gets fired!

Yeah. McRae to Philly for a 2nd would have made so much sense. That said, the three 2nds Golden State got were terrible. 2nd rounders lower than the 45th pick or so are all but worthless.

closg00 · Post #840 » by **closg00** » Thu Feb 6, 2020 3:56 pm

Anyone have Marial Shayok on their board last year? 54th pick

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