Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season

[clo12345]

The reason I don't think we trade Levert or Dinwiddie is because they're close with Kyrie and KD.

Plus CJ called KD soft so don't think he's the right fit lol

[GTR11]

WHAT? HELL NO !!!! All that for CJ?! thats a package you give up for a legit star player. CJ is not that much better than Din.

I was punching air reading these trade proposals .
Before anyone will start telling me bring up one, I offered few. 1- Allen, Harris and first for KAT. Caris, Harris and first for Beal. No way you give up Din with brittle Kyrie as your 35+ mil starter. Also let's not forget that AD might bounce. Caris, Prince or Harris and Allen with few first rounders will give LA trade assets and competitive product. Much better than losing him for nothing. Yeah I said it because this is not your Dr Buss led Lakers with Logo out there.

Lol, none of those offers are close to realistic. You could take your offers and just add Dinwiddie to them and they probably still aren't there. Dinwiddie/Caris/1st/meh B-rate Euro prospect, just isn't a lot to give up for a guy like McCollum. Is he world's better than Dinwiddie? Nah. But he is a healthy amount better, fits this team better and truthfully is on a tier above Dinwiddie overall. He's 28 and locked into a long contract.

Toxic environment and and desperate GM is all it takes. Both team fit two categories.

[GTR11]

I really tend to believe you trolling because of post like this. I mean c'mon man.
1- you brought up lottery teams. 6's, Bucks ( top two EC teams ) have big line ups and constantly kill us on boards and physically. They bully us and if you haven't seen it past week I'm not sure what you've seen. There is also Indy ( probably third best team ) and Raps that also play big and also killing us in the painted area. That's not an opinion that's a fact. Our counter weapons ( 3pt shooting and drive to the basket ) haven't been successful due to Allen being none offensive threat ( there are video evidence by few bball breakdown guys on YouTube ) and teams take full advantage of that.

i brought up all 29 teams... because the implication was that durant would get "worn down" by having to "bang with big players" all season. so of course i brought up lotto teams and all tea,s to prove that no, he wont have to deal with bruisers every night.

And who exactly is going to bully durant" he is 6'11" 240 pounds and has great wingspan. show my where guys have bullied him the last few years?

2- this system require versatile big who can either shoot or being able to create offense. Neither Allen, DJ, Prince, Rodi or Chandler can do that.

no it doesnt. it doesnt even require a PF. it requires a big who can screen and finish off the pick and roll., we have 2 good ones in DJ and allen

We sub 500 for a reason.

Yes because our 3 best players have missed 90% of the season. we are doing GREAT considering that. The warriors are missing their 2 best guys, look how they are doing

I mean you can pick on a lot that you've said past few days. I really have hard time comprehending and seeing stuff you talking about. No offense but most here disheartened because of lack of execution and effort for different reasons and therefore opinions vary.

if you cant follow basketball discussions due to a lack of knowledge thats ok, you cans till root for and follow the team

1- During regular season you can adjust to schedule at any time. Most of the time you try to polish your system. With load management and performance team I'm pretty sure they'll keep our players fresh. I cut the BS and went straight up to money time. Seems like you have no answer to that. You need some KD data beside #'s you looking at. Watch some film who he's playing with and vs who they played against. Those details how they run D should open your eyes.
2- what? Ok let me know how did it worked out lately and why our offense is trash at closing out games? Oh this will be good one.
3- a-GSW? Are serious? S.Dot, Iggy, KD +3 other players from chip run all gone. None of these players on their roster has anything to do with GSW of years past.
b- We and entire world knew they were brittle and made of glass before season even started. It was given our role players would have to step up and expend their games for us to be a playoff team. Last year Rodi, Dudley and DMC did exactly that and that's why we were successful, we also should add the fact no one scouted us assuming we'd be trash. This year... yeah how's that working now? We getting our guards pressured with double teams and we can't do anything because our bigs can't dribble the ball without TO and that's why they're successful forcing TO. God forbid if they'll get physical like 6's last game than it's a blow out, remember Raps game?
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[MrDollarBills]

The NBA is likely to project a decline in the salary cap and luxury tax for the 2020-21 season due to a decline in league-wide revenue, league sources told Adrian Wojnarowski and Bobby Marks of ESPN.

The league will release their projections as early as Thursday, allowing teams to take them into account ahead of the trade deadline.

Many front office executives believe that the salary cap could drop from a projected $116 million down to $113 million next season.

The luxury tax had been projected at $141 million.

The ramifications from Daryl Morey's retweet supporting Hong Kong sovereignty, which included China pulling sponsorships and television coverage, is believed to have cost the league between $150 and $200 million.

How will this impact our ability to add to the roster?

[ecuhus1981]

The NBA is likely to project a decline in the salary cap and luxury tax for the 2020-21 season due to a decline in league-wide revenue, league sources told Adrian Wojnarowski and Bobby Marks of ESPN.

The league will release their projections as early as Thursday, allowing teams to take them into account ahead of the trade deadline.

Many front office executives believe that the salary cap could drop from a projected $116 million down to $113 million next season.

The luxury tax had been projected at $141 million.

The ramifications from Daryl Morey's retweet supporting Hong Kong sovereignty, which included China pulling sponsorships and television coverage, is believed to have cost the league between $150 and $200 million.

How will this impact our ability to add to the roster?

Not much of a difference for us, IMO. We go from being about $6mil away from the luxury tax, to about $3mil away. We could have used the MLE this summer, but now, we probably will shy away from it unless we make another trade. I don't think we would be worried about the MLE salary itself anyway, but the hard-cap that would result from it.

If anything, I think it will change the calculus on keeping both of Caris and Taurean.

[Claud]

Joe Tsai already said he isn't afraid to paid luxury tax so there's that.

I think we resign Joe and add another piece for next season while keeping the current core.

I don't see Marks trading LeVert or Dinwiddie this season. They really believe in both of those players(Marks and Kenny)

[Prokorov]

Joe Tsai already said he isn't afraid to paid luxury tax so there's that.

I think we resign Joe and add another piece for next season while keeping the current core.

I don't see Marks trading LeVert or Dinwiddie this season. They really believe in both of those players(Marks and Kenny)

it is less about willingness to pay the tax and more about which MLE we get (Non taxpayer MLE vs. Tax payer MLE... about a 4 million difference) and as mentioned we could be hard capped

[MrDollarBills]

Joe Tsai already said he isn't afraid to paid luxury tax so there's that.

I think we resign Joe and add another piece for next season while keeping the current core.

I don't see Marks trading LeVert or Dinwiddie this season. They really believe in both of those players(Marks and Kenny)

it is less about willingness to pay the tax and more about which MLE we get (Non taxpayer MLE vs. Tax payer MLE... about a 4 million difference) and as mentioned we could be hard capped

How do we prevent a hard cap situation?? that would really be a backbreaker

[DarkXaero]

Wait, we have a chance to get non tax payers MLE this summer? That's massive, especially if order of signings/moves can help us circumvent the hard cap problem.

[Prokorov]

Wait, we have a chance to get non tax payers MLE this summer? That's massive, especially if order of signings/moves can help us circumvent the hard cap problem.

we would need to shed 2-5 million depeding on what the tax actually is.

harris has a 14.5 million cap hold. if he signs for less that clears up space. id think he gets at least 4/44. so that could get us close. waiving chandler and TLC gets is 3 million. trading our pick gets us a million or so.

[MrDollarBills]

Next season's cap is $115 mil, luxury tax is at $139 million.

I think next season we are at 132 million not including Joe's cap hold.

[ecuhus1981]

Next season's cap is $115 mil, luxury tax is at $139 million.

I think next season we are at 132 million not including Joe's cap hold.

This is the critical piece. Some of us may feel that Joe's season has been a bit disappointing, but he's widely regarded as a top-15 FA this summer. Only a handful of teams have major capspace, but if one of them offers Bogdanovic money, I doubt we match. Keeping him on the books at that number could mean 2021-22 repeater taxes of $100mil or more, since we're also gonna need to re-up Jarrett.

Prok says we should even keep Harris on a max deal, but it's just not fiscally sound to chase him if big money comes calling. Hopefully, the big teams chase the big fish, and he ends up missing out on the type of payday that we can't afford to match.

[Prokorov]

Next season's cap is $115 mil, luxury tax is at $139 million.

I think next season we are at 132 million not including Joe's cap hold.

We are at 141 with Harris cap hold (14 million). im not sure what he will command. between 10 and 15 id assume

[Prokorov]

Next season's cap is $115 mil, luxury tax is at $139 million.

I think next season we are at 132 million not including Joe's cap hold.

This is the critical piece. Some of us may feel that Joe's season has been a bit disappointing, but he's widely regarded as a top-15 FA this summer. Only a handful of teams have major capspace, but if one of them offers Bogdanovic money, I doubt we match. Keeping him on the books at that number could mean 2021-22 repeater taxes of $100mil or more, since we're also gonna need to re-up Jarrett.

Prok says we should even keep Harris on a max deal, but it's just not fiscally sound to chase him if big money comes calling. Hopefully, the big teams chase the big fish, and he ends up missing out on the type of payday that we can't afford to match.

Id salary dump levert, prince, and temple to keep harris if it came to it. but it wont, he wont need the max and i doubt he will entertain outside offers. he took less to be here last time, id assume they work a mutually beneficial deal like they did with levert and prince.

Harris cant be let go. especially once durant is back

[DarkXaero]

Next season's cap is $115 mil, luxury tax is at $139 million.

I think next season we are at 132 million not including Joe's cap hold.

We are at 141 with Harris cap hold (14 million). im not sure what he will command. between 10 and 15 id assume

How did you come to that number?

[ecuhus1981]

$141mil is before Joe's cap hold, but yes, Harris' hold is an additional $14.5mil (2X his current salary).

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/brooklyn-nets/cap/2020/

[Hello Brooklyn]

I don't want to make any big moves till KD comes back.

Kyrie/Levert/Harris/KD/Allen with Din as 6th man still looks to me like a Championship level roster. Just need to move around some pieces on the bench.

Levert's development will be huge though. I still fully believe in him.

[Prokorov]

Next season's cap is $115 mil, luxury tax is at $139 million.

I think next season we are at 132 million not including Joe's cap hold.

We are at 141 with Harris cap hold (14 million). im not sure what he will command. between 10 and 15 id assume

How did you come to that number?

I was wrong its actually 141 not including harris cap hold

Durant 40.1
Kyrie 33.3
Lavert 16.2
Prince 13.9
Dinwiddie 11.5
Jordan 10.4
Temple 5 (team option)
Allen 3.9
Musa 2
Kurucs 1.8
Pinson 1.7 (team options)
Claxton 1.5

total = 141.3

cap holds

Harris 14.5
chandler 1.7
TLC 1.5

Deron finally off the books!!

[DarkXaero]

We are at 141 with Harris cap hold (14 million). im not sure what he will command. between 10 and 15 id assume

How did you come to that number?

I was wrong its actually 141 not including harris cap hold

Durant 40.1
Kyrie 33.3
Lavert 16.2
Prince 13.9
Dinwiddie 11.5
Jordan 10.4
Temple 5 (team option)
Allen 3.9
Musa 2
Kurucs 1.8
Pinson 1.7 (team options)
Claxton 1.5

total = 141.3

cap holds

Harris 14.5
chandler 1.7
TLC 1.5

Deron finally off the books!!

Seems like it'll be very difficult to get to that $139 mill number unless we renounce Joe or make some big moves. Closest I can think of is renouncing Chandler, TLC, and not picking up options on Pinson & Temple, which frees up about $10 mill. I guess we could also trade Musa for cap, and then after all that, you have to hope that Joe agrees on a number around $12 mill/yr. Doesn't seem realistic to me.

[Prokorov]

How did you come to that number?

I was wrong its actually 141 not including harris cap hold

Durant 40.1
Kyrie 33.3
Lavert 16.2
Prince 13.9
Dinwiddie 11.5
Jordan 10.4
Temple 5 (team option)
Allen 3.9
Musa 2
Kurucs 1.8
Pinson 1.7 (team options)
Claxton 1.5

total = 141.3

cap holds

Harris 14.5
chandler 1.7
TLC 1.5

Deron finally off the books!!

Seems like it'll be very difficult to get to that $139 mill number unless we renounce Joe or make some big moves. Closest I can think of is renouncing Chandler, TLC, and not picking up options on Pinson & Temple, which frees up about $10 mill. I guess we could also trade Musa for cap, and then after all that, you have to hope that Joe agrees on a number around $12 mill/yr. Doesn't seem realistic to me.

trading levert for picks, sign joe to a lower salary (11-12 million?) and dumping chandler gets it done. although you could probably get a better player for levert than you could for the MLE so maybe just deal levert for someone who is healthier and fits better and not worry about the MLE?