Trade Thread, Part 3: The Fun Continues

[Banks2Pierce]

Feel like you can infer from some of the Scal comments that Ainge still likes Romeo and he has barely played so he's super unlikely to be moved since his value will be low around the league. Think we'd only move him in a blockbuster or if he's showing a James Young work ethic behind the scenes. I kind of doubt that based on how his body looks.

Thought a line from Bulpett a couple weeks ago saying that Vinnie P was pretty good in practice was fairly interesting and implied that he may be a bit better than his garbage time appearances.

Tend to think Drummond is better than he's given credit for around here. I don't like his Embiid history, but I like Theis's even less.

[sully00]

Would you do Semij for Alec Burk or maybe Wanamaker for Burk?

Burk is making the minimum so you don't actually have to trade a player for him just need a roster spot. The return is going to be in draft picks for GSW not another less effective bench player. Also every team in the league can add him because of the minimum salary my guess is the price for him will be too high for Boston but they are best prepared to burn some draft capital in a deal for him.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Feel like you can infer from some of the Scal comments that Ainge still likes Romeo and he has barely played so he's super unlikely to be moved since his value will be low around the league. Think we'd only move him in a blockbuster or if he's showing a James Young work ethic behind the scenes. I kind of doubt that based on how his body looks.

Thought a line from Bulpett a couple weeks ago saying that Vinnie P was pretty good in practice was fairly interesting and implied that he may be a bit better than his garbage time appearances.

Tend to think Drummond is better than he's given credit for around here. I don't like his Embiid history, but I like Theis's even less.

I tend to disbelieve pretty much everything Scal say with respect to how our front office feels. Ainge isnt going to give him anything other than positive reviews. Also, if we keep Smart and our wing trio next season, I cant imagine Langford’s value going up.

I also dont believe any of that regarding Poirier— our team is starved for big men depth with Kanter out and Poirier has barely played in non-garbage time. That pretty much says it all.

I disagree immensely on Drummond, too. He’s just not very good, IMO.

[MagicBagley18]

Feel like you can infer from some of the Scal comments that Ainge still likes Romeo and he has barely played so he's super unlikely to be moved since his value will be low around the league. Think we'd only move him in a blockbuster or if he's showing a James Young work ethic behind the scenes. I kind of doubt that based on how his body looks.

Thought a line from Bulpett a couple weeks ago saying that Vinnie P was pretty good in practice was fairly interesting and implied that he may be a bit better than his garbage time appearances.

Tend to think Drummond is better than he's given credit for around here. I don't like his Embiid history, but I like Theis's even less.

I tend to disbelieve pretty much everything Scal say with respect to how our front office feels. Ainge isnt going to give him anything other than positive reviews. Also, if we keep Smart and our wing trio next season, I cant imagine Langford’s value going up.

I also dont believe any of that regarding Poirier— our team is starved for big men depth with Kanter out and Poirier has barely played in non-garbage time. That pretty much says it all.

I disagree immensely on Drummond, too. He’s just not very good, IMO.

Scal also during the draft when we had 1st pick said danny loves Fultz, Fultz is the guy- he’s a superstar in the making, Boston loves him etc so he either is playing dumb and hiding everything or while having a close relationship and being friendly with management is true, they don’t give him real in depth info into their thought process (and they shouldn’t )

[MagicBagley18]

Bjelica sometimes scares me with his shot selection won’t lie- dude jacks up 28 fters with 18 seconds on the clock

Bjelica has shot over 40% from three point range over the last 3 years. Career 39.5% shooter from three point range. Celtics would be real lucky to get him.

Geez I didn’t mention where I said he can’t shoot- thought I said shot selection. That’s right I did. I’ve seen the guy single handily shoot his teams out of games with asinine shots in situations that called for patience

[Banks2Pierce]

Scal also during the draft when we had 1st pick said danny loves Fultz, Fultz is the guy- he’s a superstar in the making, Boston loves him etc so he either is playing dumb and hiding everything or while having a close relationship and being friendly with management is true, they don’t give him real in depth info into their thought process (and they shouldn’t )

Eh, there's fluff like the pre-draft misdirections and then parsing out the stuff they say on broadcasts based on how they talk about everyone else. Scal in particular works out certain guys and is an actual resource in their thought process from what is said.

[Curmudgeon]

Instead of this being the "Trade Thread, Part 3" it should be entitled "The Usual Suspects, Part 3".

[Celts17Pride]

Bjelica sometimes scares me with his shot selection won’t lie- dude jacks up 28 fters with 18 seconds on the clock

Bjelica has shot over 40% from three point range over the last 3 years. Career 39.5% shooter from three point range. Celtics would be real lucky to get him.

Geez I didn’t mention where I said he can’t shoot- thought I said shot selection. That’s right I did. I’ve seen the guy single handily shoot his teams out of games with asinine shots in situations that called for patience

Celtics may have no interest in Bjelica. You never know with Danny Ainge. Usually when Ainge makes a trade it's for someone that nobody has mentioned. Didn't see anyone bring up the name Marcus Morris but all of a sudden he was a Celtics. Going to be interesting to see if Ainge does anything.

[Bohemian]

I think this is the first time we don´t have any insider info, do we?

Less than a week for the deadline. I surely hope and honestly expect the team to do nothing significant.

[Celts17Pride]

There is a strong argument to keep all the first round picks for next year. The salary cap is going down next year. If the Celtics are going to invest all their money in their Top 5 players (Walker, Hayward, Brown, Tatum and Smart) then they are going to need cheap contracts to stay below the luxury tax or pay a minimal penalty.

Don't know what direction the Celtics will go. Should be interesting.

[MagicBagley18]

Scal also during the draft when we had 1st pick said danny loves Fultz, Fultz is the guy- he’s a superstar in the making, Boston loves him etc so he either is playing dumb and hiding everything or while having a close relationship and being friendly with management is true, they don’t give him real in depth info into their thought process (and they shouldn’t )

Eh, there's fluff like the pre-draft misdirections and then parsing out the stuff they say on broadcasts based on how they talk about everyone else. Scal in particular works out certain guys and is an actual resource in their thought process from what is said.

I can go and on about how many times he’s been wrong about Celtic related stuff. I know he’s not as informed as you think, he works guys out bc they have respect what he says but that still doesn’t mean he has inside knowledge. It means they trust he’ll work the player out on specific stuff that they want to see and get feedback on a player from someone whose not affiliated with an agent group or represents other players on the roster etc Who has a vested interest in getting positive feedback

[Celts17Pride]

In my opinion I think it's a very bad move to trade Romeo Langford before you fully know what you have in the player. Langford has shown some small signs that he could be a big time player. I wouldn't move Langford right now unless it was part of a package for a big time player.

Don't need to repeat the "Joe Johnson and Chauncey Billups mistakes" from years ago.

[100proof]

In my opinion I think it's a very bad move to trade Romeo Langford before you fully know what you have in the player. Langford has shown some small signs that he could be a big time player. I wouldn't move Langford right now unless it was part of a package for a big time player.

Don't need to repeat the "Joe Johnson and Chauncey Billups mistakes" from years ago.

YEah, best to keep a roster spot in the hopes that in playing behind all of Brown, Tatum, Hayward, Smart, Kemba he will grow into an allstar by time his rookie extension contract is ending.

[Celts17Pride]

In my opinion I think it's a very bad move to trade Romeo Langford before you fully know what you have in the player. Langford has shown some small signs that he could be a big time player. I wouldn't move Langford right now unless it was part of a package for a big time player.

Don't need to repeat the "Joe Johnson and Chauncey Billups mistakes" from years ago.

YEah, best to keep a roster spot in the hopes that in playing behind all of Brown, Tatum, Hayward, Smart, Kemba he will grow into an allstar by time his rookie extension contract is ending.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if Romeo Langford was the Celtics top bench scorer next year.

[sully00]

In my opinion I think it's a very bad move to trade Romeo Langford before you fully know what you have in the player. Langford has shown some small signs that he could be a big time player. I wouldn't move Langford right now unless it was part of a package for a big time player.

Don't need to repeat the "Joe Johnson and Chauncey Billups mistakes" from years ago.

100% with this. If someone values Langford that much then fine but it would be silly use his salary as a trade chip without him having the chance to establish his value as a player in the league.

[5InOfLouisville]

In my opinion I think it's a very bad move to trade Romeo Langford before you fully know what you have in the player. Langford has shown some small signs that he could be a big time player. I wouldn't move Langford right now unless it was part of a package for a big time player.

Don't need to repeat the "Joe Johnson and Chauncey Billups mistakes" from years ago.

I agree with this. but to play devil's advocate, which I like doing for the sake of conversation, the flipside is that if he DOESN'T pan out, right now he has his highest trade value, and by waiting you lose it.

Again, for the record, I like Romeo. He looks like a ballplayer to me. I like the way he moves around the court He's fluid, under control and smooth. It seems like he drives with purpose. I still question his shot, but he's coming off a broken wrist and I think he gets it together.

[vct33]

In my opinion I think it's a very bad move to trade Romeo Langford before you fully know what you have in the player. Langford has shown some small signs that he could be a big time player. I wouldn't move Langford right now unless it was part of a package for a big time player.

Don't need to repeat the "Joe Johnson and Chauncey Billups mistakes" from years ago.

YEah, best to keep a roster spot in the hopes that in playing behind all of Brown, Tatum, Hayward, Smart, Kemba he will grow into an allstar by time his rookie extension contract is ending.

Even with that depth, there would be plenty of minutes for Romeo next year if he earned them. The combination of Wanamaker, Green & Edwards have like 1500 minutes this year. He can take any or all of those if her earns them. I’m still on the Romeo bandwagon. I think he could be very useful as soon as next year.

[sully00]

There is a strong argument to keep all the first round picks for next year. The salary cap is going down next year. If the Celtics are going to invest all their money in their Top 5 players (Walker, Hayward, Brown, Tatum and Smart) then they are going to need cheap contracts to stay below the luxury tax or pay a minimal penalty.

Don't know what direction the Celtics will go. Should be interesting.

I don't agree with this because it actually is going to cause you to lose value contracts. Boston 14 players under contract for next season 3 of them for less than 2 mil dollars. In addition Boston has two two way players and Wannamaker's restricted FA. So the first round picks are going to cost more money than the 3 guys at the bottom of the roster salary sheet. Edwards' contract is guaranteed so it is Green and Ojeleye on the chopping block to replace with 1st round picks. I don't see that being a great path forward for team trying to win a championship. Green has been a revelation this month and while Ojeleye isn't beloved he is a rotation guy who can make a 3 and I don't think I would just want to replace him with a late first rounder on a flyer. Boston also has a 2nd round pick as well.

I would hope Ainge can make use of the picks to either upgrade the roster, move up in the draft, or flip them for future picks.

[snowman]

We are going to be deep next season. All NBA Kemba, Smart and Waters at the point. Brown, Langford and Green at the 2. A resigned Hayward at the 3. All Star Tatum and G. Will at the 4, and Theis, R. Will and Kanter at the 5. Add to that who ever shakes out between / left over from Poirier, Wannamaker, Semi, Edwards and Fall along with 3 1sts and 2 seconds. just wow. Over the last few games it does seem that, and I can't believe I'm saying this considering I have been an advocate for trading him, SEMI has stepped up his game for more than a 3 and D type player.

With all that being said. since this is the trade thread, I would like to see Poirier and Edwards along with a pick upgraded for a shooting wing for the playoffs, but I doubt anything will get done until around the draft.

[Curmudgeon]

I would trade Langford, Poirier (cap fodder) and Boston's first rounder for Derrick Rose in a heartbeat. One of the contending teams is going to get Rose, and it should be us.