Trade Thread, Part 3: The Fun Continues

100proof · Post #281 » by **100proof** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:56 pm

I have never been on the Romeo bandwagon and his value, to me, is more than fine basing it off of potential.

I don't see it going up as high as the potential that it carries now. nothing about him at any point in time has even shown as an NBA starter to me, more like 8-10th man type, but maybe he can surprise me. I cannot see him leading the bench in scoring next season, that is just a foolish statement. Unless Hayward or smart, and Kanter are both traded there is no way he is getting the touches necessary to be that. Not sure he has the skills either, he has been one of the worst performers on the Maine team even.

http://bkref.com/pi/shareit/YOeqU

Half-Full · Post #282 » by **Half-Full** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:02 pm

5InOfLouisville wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:In my opinion I think it's a very bad move to trade Romeo Langford before you fully know what you have in the player. Langford has shown some small signs that he could be a big time player. I wouldn't move Langford right now unless it was part of a package for a big time player.

Don't need to repeat the "Joe Johnson and Chauncey Billups mistakes" from years ago.

I agree with this. but to play devil's advocate, which I like doing for the sake of conversation, the flipside is that if he DOESN'T pan out, right now he has his highest trade value, and by waiting you lose it.

Again, for the record, I like Romeo. He looks like a ballplayer to me. I like the way he moves around the court He's fluid, under control and smooth. It seems like he drives with purpose. I still question his shot, but he's coming off a broken wrist and I think he gets it together.

I like the way he moves around the court too. Seems to have good instincts, and I like how he can find his way to the rim and finish. He knows how to drive through traffic, and he makes it look easy.

Post #283 » by **snowman** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:19 pm

I was just looking at stats for the red claws, and I didn't think it was possible, but Poirier is averaging more blocks per game than Tacko. Only 2 games played for Poirier, but is avg. 3.5 blocks and 16 pts. Maybe we should let him work here the rest of the season and this off season. We have him locked up for another year, and is 7 ft and just 26. I mean it's just G-league, but who knows ?

Banks2Pierce · Post #284 » by **Banks2Pierce** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:20 pm

100proof wrote:YEah, best to keep a roster spot in the hopes that in playing behind all of Brown, Tatum, Hayward, Smart, Kemba he will grow into an allstar by time his rookie extension contract is ending.

Wanamaker plays 18mpg, Javonte Green has gotten a ton of chances this season, Semi has played a decent amount at the 3, and Hayward may be an unrestricted FA. Easy to make room for wings if they can play.

You're just ultimately too low on a 19/20 year old. Avery Bradley's probably a pretty good 1:1 experience comparison considering position, age, and injuries and he looked brutal that first year.

jeremym480 · Post #285 » by **jeremym480** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:30 pm

Who says no?

*Sacramento would need at least our 2020 1st, maybe another prospect, as well
*could also swap out Bogs and Bjelica if the Clippers deal is light

Celtics - Gets a high-energy big and a shooter. If it's Bogdanovic, then both guys would have to be re-signed in the off-season and possibly either let Hayward walk or trade him if he picks up his option

Clippers - They don't want to pay Harrell and add lots of depth instead. They get Kanter (or Theis) to replace Harrell, a good shooter and a backup PG. I assume that they would want Bjelica over Bogdanovic since they have Lou but could probably choose either.

Kings - This is a reset for them. They don't want to pay Bogdanovic and want to get something for Bjelica while his value his high. They get Langford who is cheap and under control for a few more years and picks/prospects.

Bohemian · Post #286 » by **Bohemian** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:38 pm

https://theathletic.com/1574979/2020/01/31/inside-pass-the-jrue-holiday-trade-market-plus-more-notes-from-around-the-nba/?source=twittered

I don´t know if anyone has the inside pass.

100proof · Post #287 » by **100proof** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:44 pm

Banks2Pierce wrote:
100proof wrote:YEah, best to keep a roster spot in the hopes that in playing behind all of Brown, Tatum, Hayward, Smart, Kemba he will grow into an allstar by time his rookie extension contract is ending.

Wanamaker plays 18mpg, Javonte Green has gotten a ton of chances this season, Semi has played a decent amount at the 3, and Hayward may be an unrestricted FA. Easy to make room for wings if they can play.

You're just ultimately too low on a 19/20 year old. Avery Bradley's probably a pretty good 1:1 experience comparison considering position, age, and injuries and he looked brutal that first year.

Iif Bradley is his comp, I absolutely trade him now. I trade his on his potential and him being a rookie locked up and being a recent lotto pick. As that is his highest trade value.

100proof · Post #288 » by **100proof** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:46 pm

jeremym480 wrote:Who says no?

*Sacramento would need at least our 2020 1st, maybe another prospect, as well
*could also swap out Bogs and Bjelica if the Clippers deal is light

Celtics - Gets a high-energy big and a shooter. If it's Bogdanovic, then both guys would have to be re-signed in the off-season and possibly either let Hayward walk or trade him if he picks up his option

Clippers - They don't want to pay Harrell and add lots of depth instead. They get Kanter (or Theis) to replace Harrell, a good shooter and a backup PG. I assume that they would want Bjelica over Bogdanovic since they have Lou but could probably choose either.

Kings - This is a reset for them. They don't want to pay Bogdanovic and want to get something for Bjelica while his value his high. They get Langford who is cheap and under control for a few more years and picks/prospects.

I love it for the celtics, hate it for their finances. lol.

Hayward would have to go at seasons ed, but team would legit contend this season.

Kemba/Wannamaker
Brown/Smart
Hayward/Bog
Tatum/Grant
Harrell/Theis

CelticsLV · Post #289 » by **CelticsLV** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:03 pm

This deadline is shaping up to be a major dud. Even rumour vise.

GoGreen · Post #290 » by **GoGreen** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:09 pm

Would be great, but like I've said before, I don't see Danny parting with these damn picks..

Read on Twitter

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Celts17Pride · Post #291 » by **Celts17Pride** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:35 pm

GoGreen wrote:Would be great, but like I've said before, I don't see Danny parting with these damn picks..

Read on Twitter
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Can the Celtics keep him after this year?

100proof · Post #292 » by **100proof** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:19 pm

GoGreen wrote:Would be great, but like I've said before, I don't see Danny parting with these damn picks..

Read on Twitter
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Liked wood for a long time now.

Was asking for him in the offseason. Still like him now. Very good bench pf or potential starting center against the right matchups.

GoCeltics123 · Post #293 » by **GoCeltics123** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:32 pm

Bohemian wrote:https://theathletic.com/1574979/2020/01/31/inside-pass-the-jrue-holiday-trade-market-plus-more-notes-from-around-the-nba/?source=twittered

I don´t know if anyone has the inside pass.

I do, said nothing on us.

100proof · Post #294 » by **100proof** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:50 pm

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=vldebmu

The Deal for the championship AND the future.

To Lakers
Wannamaker, Semi, Bucks first (Kuzma)

Lakers have no cheap depth, no reasonably point guard depth, and no picks. This gives them all of that. Cost is MAYBE regressed Kyle Kuzma

To Detroit
Poirier, Edwards, Boston first (Rose, Woods)

Detroit sells high on Woods and Rose and get young, cheap pieces, cut salary, add another pick. Can trade Drummond and build for future.

To Boston
Rose, Woods, Kuzma (Edwards, Poirier, Semi, Wannamaker, Bucks and Bostons 1sts)
Boston adds a vet presence on bench, a former MVP and a runner for 6th man, takes a flyer on Woods ability under a great coach like stevens and brings Kuzma in to play with a bunch of his team USA buddies(which should bring back his confidence and hopefully a return to last seasons performance) If woods is capable of being a center, and if Kuzma returns to his old form then if/when Gordon leaves team is still set.

Kemba/Rose/Waters
Brown/Smart/Romeo
Hayward/Kuzma/Green
Tatum/Woods/GWilliams
Theis/Kanter/Timelord

Banks2Pierce · Post #295 » by **Banks2Pierce** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:00 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:I do, said nothing on us.

Only possibly related info was Pistons asking for a lotto 1st for DRose.

Post #296 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:00 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:Bjelica has shot over 40% from three point range over the last 3 years. Career 39.5% shooter from three point range. Celtics would be real lucky to get him.

Geez I didn’t mention where I said he can’t shoot- thought I said shot selection. That’s right I did. I’ve seen the guy single handily shoot his teams out of games with asinine shots in situations that called for patience

Celtics may have no interest in Bjelica. You never know with Danny Ainge. Usually when Ainge makes a trade it's for someone that nobody has mentioned. Didn't see anyone bring up the name Marcus Morris but all of a sudden he was a Celtics. Going to be interesting to see if Ainge does anything.

Thats why I think were gonna trade for a wing *cough* Covington *cough*

Celts17Pride · Post #297 » by **Celts17Pride** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:01 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
Geez I didn’t mention where I said he can’t shoot- thought I said shot selection. That’s right I did. I’ve seen the guy single handily shoot his teams out of games with asinine shots in situations that called for patience

Celtics may have no interest in Bjelica. You never know with Danny Ainge. Usually when Ainge makes a trade it's for someone that nobody has mentioned. Didn't see anyone bring up the name Marcus Morris but all of a sudden he was a Celtics. Going to be interesting to see if Ainge does anything.

Thats why I think were gonna trade for a wing *cough* Covington *cough*

Ainge is capable of anything and nothing.

Post #298 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:03 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:In my opinion I think it's a very bad move to trade Romeo Langford before you fully know what you have in the player. Langford has shown some small signs that he could be a big time player. I wouldn't move Langford right now unless it was part of a package for a big time player.

Don't need to repeat the "Joe Johnson and Chauncey Billups mistakes" from years ago.

Those dudes have shown a hell of a lot more than Romeo.

I believe that Romeo will be a good player one day. I just dont see where he’s going to get the minutes to play and develop here. Theres a very real chance his value only declines from this point onward.

Post #299 » by **sully00** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:15 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:I would trade Langford, Poirier (cap fodder) and Boston's first rounder for Derrick Rose in a heartbeat. One of the contending teams is going to get Rose, and it should be us.

The problem with investing anything serious in Rose is that he has played over 60 games twice in the last 9 seasons and that was 3 years ago. So even if you took the most optimistic view of it and said he could play his max of 66 games he is already at 42 this season. I would like to roll the dice on the guy but I can't expect Boston to give up a 1st round pick for a guy that I don't think will be healthy for the playoffs.

Celts17Pride · Post #300 » by **Celts17Pride** » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:23 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:In my opinion I think it's a very bad move to trade Romeo Langford before you fully know what you have in the player. Langford has shown some small signs that he could be a big time player. I wouldn't move Langford right now unless it was part of a package for a big time player.

Don't need to repeat the "Joe Johnson and Chauncey Billups mistakes" from years ago.

Those dudes have shown a hell of a lot more than Romeo.

I believe that Romeo will be a good player one day. I just dont see where he’s going to get the minutes to play and develop here. Theres a very real chance his value only declines from this point onward.

Romeo has played 13 games in the NBA and 7 games in the G League. I mean come on.