Kobe Bryant Discussion, Part Two

[dsg2003mach1]

Re-creation of the flight (it's not graphic or anything like that but only going to post the link in case anybody is still sensitive to what happened):

https://youtu.be/XSHpbGhy3Ko

I would assume the pilot was trying to get underneath cloud cover but does anybody know why he would descend so rapidly?

a good friend of mine has been a pilot for the Navy for 10 years or so now (fixed wing and helicopter) and this is some of the main points as of this morning:

1) Company owning the helicopter was not authorized by FAA for instrument flights. This explains why despite having ample time to request an implement flight path they didn't
2) pilot and helicopter were instrument rated but because the company was not and they were never going to fly instruments only (ie restricted to visual only) pilot may not have been current and/or confident flying that way. Additionally it brings into questions - were those gauges maintained if they knew they would be flying visual only.
3) its extremely easy to become disoriented in cloud/fog, the pilot may not have even realized they were descending or didn't realize they were descending at that pace. Trying to get down out of cloud cover/fog has killed plenty of people

it could come out later there was some kind of mechanical issue but at this point based on whats out there both officially and unofficially this sounds like human error in poor visual conditions

[Sublime187]

This is a nice tribute: Kobe inspired Lambo

https://www.facebook.com/ESPN/videos/2443650862616793/

[6ixSideSniper]

Re-creation of the flight (it's not graphic or anything like that but only going to post the link in case anybody is still sensitive to what happened):

https://youtu.be/XSHpbGhy3Ko

I would assume the pilot was trying to get underneath cloud cover but does anybody know why he would descend so rapidly?

a good friend of mine has been a pilot for the Navy for 10 years or so now (fixed wing and helicopter) and this is some of the main points as of this morning:

1) Company owning the helicopter was not authorized by FAA for instrument flights. This explains why despite having ample time to request an implement flight path they didn't
2) pilot and helicopter were instrument rated but because the company was not and they were never going to fly instruments only (ie restricted to visual only) pilot may not have been current and/or confident flying that way. Additionally it brings into questions - were those gauges maintained if they knew they would be flying visual only.
3) its extremely easy to become disoriented in cloud/fog, the pilot may not have even realized they were descending or didn't realize they were descending at that pace. Trying to get down out of cloud cover/fog has killed plenty of people

it could come out later there was some kind of mechanical issue but at this point based on whats out there both officially and unofficially this sounds like human error in poor visual conditions

Even if it was a mechanical issue well never know. No black box, no data recording devices, helicopter debris stretched over 5m field.

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Ug still cry when I see interviews about Kobe’s ugh

[BFRESH44]

I still can't believe it. The most astonishing tragic loss of a public figure/icon of an athlete ever for me.

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[Ballerhogger]

I still can't believe it. The most astonishing tragic loss of a public figure/icon of an athlete ever for me.

Agreed I can’t compare to any other public figure dying in crash or murder etc. truly unique case

[SerialChiller]

I haven't signed in all week, still in shock over this. Finally just want to say RIP Kobe...a true legend. And same to his daughter and all the other accident victims. Such a tragedy.

[Yeggo Poleggo]

I've started writing up my attendance to Kobe's last game. When his last season came up, I without hesitation spent every dollar I could on the closest ticket I could find to the court. Ended up sitting 9 rows up behind the Lakers bench.

There's so much to write about, but it's still hard to focus with him not being here...

[agetro23]

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Made by 'Ben Taylor' of BackPicks and Thinking Basketball. Most know him for his analysis but this is a GREAT tribute video.

[Castle Black]

Re-creation of the flight (it's not graphic or anything like that but only going to post the link in case anybody is still sensitive to what happened):

https://youtu.be/XSHpbGhy3Ko

I would assume the pilot was trying to get underneath cloud cover but does anybody know why he would descend so rapidly?

Just my own theory based on everything I’ve read (a lot from pilots), but I’m pretty sure the Pilot was “scud-running” (flying beneath the clouds/fog and using ground visuals for direction) and then flew right into another patch of fog and lost visual of everything in all directions, and suddenly didn’t know where he was. He became disoriented and didn’t rely on his instruments (going from VFR to IIMC isn’t easy, even for the most experienced pilots) and I think he saw the hill in front him extremely late and quickly banked left as to try to avoid it, but in actuality he was turning straight towards the ground, gained speed thanks to gravity, and eventually impacted at almost 170mph.

[Slava]

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[Yeggo Poleggo]

The real tragedy is that it took the loss of Kobe Bryant for everyone to actually APPRECIATE his greatness, his influence on every NBA player and the world itself.

We are not Kobe stans, we're evangelists and a lot of you starting to understand why.



RIP Kobe Bean Bryant, we'll never be the same again.

[RB34]

I’m not trying to trigger anyone here.

But I hope Kobe’s death doesn’t become a mourn-off. I know he touched a lot of people around the world but it seems like some people (mostly media) are taking advantage of it.

[wutevahung]

just want to share this story since I havn't seen anyone sharing it yet. it's truly a great story about how much Kobe did behind the scenes.

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I truly believe that the world is going to miss him in a huge way that we will never know. Most of ex-players who have successful post basketball careers like MJ, Magic, and Shaq, excel in business. They definitely make a lot of money, and keep themselves busy, and they definitely do a lot of good and I am definitely not in any of the way saying anything remotely bad about them.

But Kobe honestly found goals higher than that. I remember him giving an interview saying, "if the best thing he had done in his life was his basketball career, than he had failed". He didn't want to be a regular business owner. While he did dip his toes in VC, his main focus was education and spreading his inspirations. Zach Lowe even talked about how Kobe talked to him about starting his own media company covering basketball the way Kobe thinks the game should be covered; back to the basics, to the game itself, to the X and Os, to the fundamentals, and not get caught up by trade rumors, free agencies and such. To him, his basketball career was a platform, a platform that allows him to reach a wide audiences, so he can change and inspire the next generations. Unfortunately, we will never find out what he is truly capable of.

[Sublime187]

The real tragedy is that it took the loss of Kobe Bryant for everyone to actually APPRECIATE his greatness, his influence on every NBA player and the world itself.

We are not Kobe stans, we're evangelists and a lot of you starting to understand why.



RIP Kobe Bean Bryant, we'll never be the same again.

From some of my posts on here people probably thought I was a Kobe hater but I admit re watching some of his games he was even better then I thought.

I am just so shocked how sad I am at Kobe's passing. It feels like I lost a family member even though I didn't even know him. The last few days Youtube and social media is just bombarded with remembering Kobe. It shows me that he was a special human being even beyond the basketball stuff. It is almost as if God is saying, my servant should be praised for the great work that he did and people need to know about it.

[karkinos]

One striking thing...perhaps it's been the pictures selected, but every photo shown of the family together, Gianna is next to Kobe. Incredible.

Saw Gianna cheering when Kobe hit the shot to take the lead in his final game. Incredibly sweet. Incredibly heartbreaking.

natalia was closer to her mom
gigi was daddy's girl
kobe mentions this in kobe doin' work

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