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Post#441 » by iamworthy » Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:58 pm

I was always curious to see Ingram's production when Zion got back. In the two games Zion's been back in the lineup Ingram has had poor games. It's something to watch going forward.
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Post#443 » by Landsberger » Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:57 pm

iamworthy wrote:I was always curious to see Ingram's production when Zion got back. In the two games Zion's been back in the lineup Ingram has had poor games. It's something to watch going forward.


Ingram needs both the ball and time to score. One of the reasons I don't see him as a lead player on a truly good team. He's not good enough to dominate a game and seems to disappear when someone else is better than him. Add to that they both seem to need the ball in the same space.

He'll have to adjust or he could become trade bait to get the pieces they need around Zion. Only 2 games... so far. Maybe the coach can find a way to get them both touches in their sweet spots and still have an offense around them.
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Post#444 » by tugs » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:33 am

Utah has been exposed but still managed to pull one. Donovan and Rudy are exceptional.

Team D has always been their calling card but if they are against a good floor spacing team with physical playmakers, they crumble. Multiple times Luka, Delon, and Brunson had their way against, Joe, Conley, Royce, and Clarkson. Outside of Royce, there really isn't an elite perimeter defender. And bench production is still a problem.
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Post#449 » by Landsberger » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:44 pm

So glad we passed on Melo.... he's done to Portland what he's done to every other team he's been on. He was the guy who could turn the season around. They are 15-18 in the 33 games with him this season.

He could be the most overrated player of the last 20 years if it weren't for Chris Paul.
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Post#451 » by dockingsched » Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:05 pm

Svi and Mo made the rising stars game, this Lakers scouting dept is something else

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Post#452 » by Slava » Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:19 pm

There's no point asking Trae and Luka to play two games over all star weekend. Those spots could have gone to someone like Thybulle from Philly for recognition of his defensive eliteness.
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Post#453 » by kblo247 » Sat Feb 1, 2020 12:45 am

Landsberger wrote:So glad we passed on Melo.... he's done to Portland what he's done to every other team he's been on. He was the guy who could turn the season around. They are 15-18 in the 33 games with him this season.

He could be the most overrated player of the last 20 years if it weren't for Chris Paul.

The blazers are worse without him. He came to a team with Tolliver, Hezonja, and Bazemore stinking up the building nightly and got thrown into starting and playing 30mins a night after being at home for over a year. The fact is Dame and CJ didn’t do their job the next year after making the conference finals because they regressed; dame has turned it around but CJ has underperformed, and the team really did a woeful job of losing Aminu, Harkless, Kanter, Curry, and Turner and replacing them with Tolliver, Hezonja, Whiteside, and Bazemore. You can say but they lost Nurkic, Collins, and Hood, and I would say that them playing damn near 500 ball with Melo speaks volumes for Melo and what he’s brought
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Post#454 » by kblo247 » Sat Feb 1, 2020 12:46 am

I am also going to say this. Ingram does not deserve to be an all star. He’s done nothing in his career her to help winning. He should be penalized like Booker, Lavine, and so on and most first time all stars who aren’t voted in for not winning.

Morant is an all star, Ingram is not
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Post#455 » by Landsberger » Sat Feb 1, 2020 1:55 am

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Landsberger wrote:So glad we passed on Melo.... he's done to Portland what he's done to every other team he's been on. He was the guy who could turn the season around. They are 15-18 in the 33 games with him this season.

He could be the most overrated player of the last 20 years if it weren't for Chris Paul.

The blazers are worse without him. He came to a team with Tolliver, Hezonja, and Bazemore stinking up the building nightly and got thrown into starting and playing 30mins a night after being at home for over a year. The fact is Dame and CJ didn’t do their job the next year after making the conference finals because they regressed; dame has turned it around but CJ has underperformed, and the team really did a woeful job of losing Aminu, Harkless, Kanter, Curry, and Turner and replacing them with Tolliver, Hezonja, Whiteside, and Bazemore. You can say but they lost Nurkic, Collins, and Hood, and I would say that them playing damn near 500 ball with Melo speaks volumes for Melo and what he’s brought


No team has ever been better if by better you mean closer to being relevant in big games and the playoffs with Melo.

If he's so impactful why was he "at home" for over a year? Every GM in the game an idiot out side of Oregon?

Melo has been a high scoring "me" cancer to most of the teams he's every played on. He's been put in the same conversation as the best in the game while not truly being a difference maker while flashing stats all over the place. Portland is not "better" with him. Everything you need to know about him is in the video of the fight he caused 15 years ago when he punched a player being held and ran like a punk instead of finishing what he got started. That fold when it's real mentality is still there...

To my original thought.... so glad he's not here.
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Post#456 » by Sedale Threatt » Sat Feb 1, 2020 2:43 am

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Post#457 » by Landsberger » Sat Feb 1, 2020 2:54 am

Why does anyone care about the entire All Star weekend? Back in the day the All Star game was barely watchable.... it's a second rate Globetrotters warm up these days wrapped in a whole weekend of silly activities and commentary by a group of ex-players continuously expressing amazement and awe... while reading a script of "personal" player stories between "events".
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Post#458 » by kblo247 » Sat Feb 1, 2020 4:07 am

Sedale Threatt wrote:Didn't realize guys cared this much about the rising stars game.

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It’s the principle behind it. He’s got two teammates in the game. One who has barely played but politics and business. The other is laughable because he got in just for being foreign which is why Svi got in not on play which Hayes has been better at. The whole world vs states is a bs concept that slighted him and his actual good hard play. He chose the wrong words but he earned that rising stars accolade and inclusion more than 3-4 guys in the game.

Hell his teammate shouldn’t be an all star either and Ja Morant should be pissed about that **** too because he’s done more in one year than Ingram ever has to help a team
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Post#459 » by kblo247 » Sat Feb 1, 2020 4:28 am

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Landsberger wrote:So glad we passed on Melo.... he's done to Portland what he's done to every other team he's been on. He was the guy who could turn the season around. They are 15-18 in the 33 games with him this season.

He could be the most overrated player of the last 20 years if it weren't for Chris Paul.

The blazers are worse without him. He came to a team with Tolliver, Hezonja, and Bazemore stinking up the building nightly and got thrown into starting and playing 30mins a night after being at home for over a year. The fact is Dame and CJ didn’t do their job the next year after making the conference finals because they regressed; dame has turned it around but CJ has underperformed, and the team really did a woeful job of losing Aminu, Harkless, Kanter, Curry, and Turner and replacing them with Tolliver, Hezonja, Whiteside, and Bazemore. You can say but they lost Nurkic, Collins, and Hood, and I would say that them playing damn near 500 ball with Melo speaks volumes for Melo and what he’s brought


No team has ever been better if by better you mean closer to being relevant in big games and the playoffs with Melo.

If he's so impactful why was he "at home" for over a year? Every GM in the game an idiot out side of Oregon?

Melo has been a high scoring "me" cancer to most of the teams he's every played on. He's been put in the same conversation as the best in the game while not truly being a difference maker while flashing stats all over the place. Portland is not "better" with him. Everything you need to know about him is in the video of the fight he caused 15 years ago when he punched a player being held and ran like a punk instead of finishing what he got started. That fold when it's real mentality is still there...

To my original thought.... so glad he's not here.

You don’t understand basketball if that’s your argument.

Melo took a team that had 8 straight losing years as a lotto pick to 7.5 years straight of over 500 records. He made Denver relevant and he got them to the conference finals despite Karl being a coach that has mostly been hated everywhere he went.

Melo went to NY and got them in the playoffs for the first time in years. He didn’t make Amare punch a damn fire extinguisher and break his hand and leave him with no help. He and the Knicks made another playoffs and just got beat my the damn Heatles. Yes he got broke down with a knee surgery and torn rotator cuff, as well as a bad GM.

In okc, what blame in retrospect goes on him? The thunder won the same amount of games without him. They also got kicked out the playoffs sooner. Russ ran George Town out of town too, just like he and KD were sent away.

Houston went bad 10 games in. Some of which in case you missed it, Paul missed because rondo and he threw punches. Eric Gordon missed too. And the rockets themselves didn’t actually turn it around to they brought Jeff Bizdelik back last year to coach their D before flaming out vs GS, Jeff quitting again, and Paul being traded away. And hell he gave them the business again.

And I’ll say it again they are worse without him. They were worse without him and for their record better with him. He came in and became their third player. And you’ve watched no actual basketball beyond clips this year if you haven’t seen him talking to their young bench on the sideline, cheering them on through mistakes, diving for loose balls on the floor. You would have to have never played to not get how well he had to keep himself in shape to go from at home to starting for 30 mins a night and playing vs nba players, so you can’t question his commitment to the sport physically. They were literally playing Hezonja, Tolliver, Bazemore, and Little.

And you also can’t tell me or bait me with the other GM ****. You know why Melo fits them compared to Houston or OkC? When he was signed the blazers were number 3 in mid range shots, 5 in post ups, 2 in isolations, and 4 in pull up shots in the league. Essentially he went to the basketball fit that actually worked for what his game was based on. He wasn’t sitting there while Russ dribbled 16 seconds and did something crazy to be thrown a catch and shoot 3. He wasn’t told box out so Westbrook can get the rebound. He ain’t watching harden dribble dribble and then being told apologize for taking a 2. He’s just told to play his game, post up, be a good teammate, play bully ball, and he’s not complained once about being a pf, he’s shot the 3 well, helped them win, and he’s not caused a peep of problems. Melo in Portland is essentially Dwight here, he’s asked to do what made him great and he’s done good at it with no hassle. The blazers need talent horribly but they may be fine if Nurk and Collins get healthy come March

Let me ask you though is Ariza a bum based off your criteria too? I mean he’s sucked and got big money the past two years
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Post#460 » by Landsberger » Sat Feb 1, 2020 5:06 am

kblo247 wrote:
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kblo247 wrote:The blazers are worse without him. He came to a team with Tolliver, Hezonja, and Bazemore stinking up the building nightly and got thrown into starting and playing 30mins a night after being at home for over a year. The fact is Dame and CJ didn’t do their job the next year after making the conference finals because they regressed; dame has turned it around but CJ has underperformed, and the team really did a woeful job of losing Aminu, Harkless, Kanter, Curry, and Turner and replacing them with Tolliver, Hezonja, Whiteside, and Bazemore. You can say but they lost Nurkic, Collins, and Hood, and I would say that them playing damn near 500 ball with Melo speaks volumes for Melo and what he’s brought


No team has ever been better if by better you mean closer to being relevant in big games and the playoffs with Melo.

If he's so impactful why was he "at home" for over a year? Every GM in the game an idiot out side of Oregon?

Melo has been a high scoring "me" cancer to most of the teams he's every played on. He's been put in the same conversation as the best in the game while not truly being a difference maker while flashing stats all over the place. Portland is not "better" with him. Everything you need to know about him is in the video of the fight he caused 15 years ago when he punched a player being held and ran like a punk instead of finishing what he got started. That fold when it's real mentality is still there...

To my original thought.... so glad he's not here.

You don’t understand basketball if that’s your argument.

Melo took a team that had 8 straight losing years as a lotto pick to 7.5 years straight of over 500 records. He made Denver relevant and he got them to the conference finals despite Karl being a coach that has mostly been hated everywhere he went.

Melo went to NY and got them in the playoffs for the first time in years. He didn’t make Amare punch a damn fire extinguisher and break his hand and leave him with no help. He and the Knicks made another playoffs and just got beat my the damn Heatles. Yes he got broke down with a knee surgery and torn rotator cuff, as well as a bad GM.

In okc, what blame in retrospect goes on him? The thunder won the same amount of games without him. They also got kicked out the playoffs sooner. Russ ran George Town out of town too, just like he and KD were sent away.

Houston went bad 10 games in. Some of which in case you missed it, Paul missed because rondo and he threw punches. Eric Gordon missed too. And the rockets themselves didn’t actually turn it around to they brought Jeff Bizdelik back last year to coach their D before flaming out vs GS, Jeff quitting again, and Paul being traded away. And hell he gave them the business again.

And I’ll say it again they are worse without him. They were worse without him and for their record better with him. He came in and became their third player. And you’ve watched no actual basketball beyond clips this year if you haven’t seen him talking to their young bench on the sideline, cheering them on through mistakes, diving for loose balls on the floor. You would have to have never played to not get how well he had to keep himself in shape to go from at home to starting for 30 mins a night and playing vs nba players, so you can’t question his commitment to the sport physically. They were literally playing Hezonja, Tolliver, Bazemore, and Little.

And you also can’t tell me or bait me with the other GM ****. You know why Melo fits them compared to Houston or OkC? When he was signed the blazers were number 3 in mid range shots, 5 in post ups, 2 in isolations, and 4 in pull up shots in the league. Essentially he went to the basketball fit that actually worked for what his game was based on. He wasn’t sitting there while Russ dribbled 16 seconds and did something crazy to be thrown a catch and shoot 3. He wasn’t told box out so Westbrook can get the rebound. He ain’t watching harden dribble dribble and then being told apologize for taking a 2. He’s just told to play his game, post up, be a good teammate, play bully ball, and he’s not complained once about being a pf, he’s shot the 3 well, helped them win, and he’s not caused a peep of problems. Melo in Portland is essentially Dwight here, he’s asked to do what made him great and he’s done good at it with no hassle. The blazers need talent horribly but they may be fine if Nurk and Collins get healthy come March

Let me ask you though is Ariza a bum based off your criteria too? I mean he’s sucked and got big money the past two years


OK.... I'm an idiot.... still overjoyed this clown isn't anywhere near our team. I'll just be happy in my complete ignorance.

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