Trade Thread, Part 3: The Fun Continues

[Scarletfire81]

I'm not advocating this, but with rumors of Detroit adding Kennard to a Drummond deal, it wouldnt surprise me if Hayward and a pick and/or young asset is dealt for Drummond and Kennard, with Hayward going to a 3rd team.

Kennard would give Boston a 40% 3 point shooter.

No chance, Hayward is back. I wasn’t sure he’d get back after his latest injury woes. But he’s playing great.

[Scarletfire81]

This team can contend this year, I have no doubt. Keep Tatum, Brown, Walker together after this season. Try to extend Hayward on a cheaper deal or pick up the option. Get a defensive big man in the offseason via trade or free agency. We don’t need a big that can score much just defense. KAT doesn’t fit here and what has he won? Not trading Brown or Tatum.

Celtics need a consistent scorer off the bench if they want to make it far in the playoffs. Right between Smart and Kanter. A consistent wing scorer capable of 8-10 points nightly and every now and then a 20 point game.

Someone like Alec Burks, Bjelica, Davis Bertans etc.

Pretty sure Derrick Rose could also be had for the Milwaukee pick at some point.

[MagicBagley18]

I've recently seen some people discussing a trade of Towns for Brown and the Memphis pick which sits at 17 last I checked. Would you be down with the Celtics doing this? Would you have the heart to do this to Jaylen being we're not even sure if Towns has one? We are desperately thin at the big man spots, and Towns is elite offensively, but his lack of effort on D is also offensive. It makes sense fit wise as we are pretty stacked on the wing, but am I just falling victim to the old cliche "we can change him" fools gold like so many dumb bitches before me? Has Danny's resistance to draft anyone over 6'8 driven me insanely grasping at straws with the blinders turned up to 11?

Who is discussing this? That isn't close to a Towns package.

It’s laughable that some fans even think that gets you into the conversations for KAT lol and debating if we should do it

[keevsnick1]

Some thoughts.

Towns isnt getting traded, he's in the first year of a FIVE YEAR contract. For all the talk about player empowerment teams dont really start considering trading superstars until theres at most two years left on their contract.

Romeo's value is probably pretty low around the league given that he hasn't played much due to A) The c's being pretty set at the wing and B) injuries. At the same time 14th may be the highest selection the C's get for a while, and with Tatum/Brown getting paid luxury tax is about to be a thing so Romeo likely has far more value to the Celtics as wing starter/scoring sixth man with defensive upside long term tha he does to teams round the league. For that reason he's likely not going anywhere. Could easily see his following the Rozier/Bradley path where he doesn't play much year 1, rotation year 2, bigger role year 3/4. He's not going to just be salary matching fodder.

The Celtics could still use a big upgrade but its hard to find that kind of guy without a 4/1 type trade (to match salaries) which almost never happen mid season. Feels like the kind of thing that may happen in off season if at all.

With that in mind the most realistically attainable need is a guy at the 2-4 who can do some combination of shoot/defend and fits in a salary range (12 million or under) that we can reach. Guys who match that description to various degrees are Bogdanovic, Bjelica, Bertans, Crowder, Covington. These guys will all probably cost somewhere between a first round pick and we get a second back (like crowder) or a first round pick + (Like bertans).

[Andrew McCeltic]

I wouldn’t do it, and tbh I think Towns’ stock is plummeting.. not to worthlessness, but..

[snowman]

I have been advocating some form of end of bench trade, but since Brad has been gone to the 8 =9 man rotation, G. Williams, Wannamaker and Semi have really stepped it up. Add to that, IMO, R. Williams, Langford and Kanter are not going anywhere. Green is one of, if not the, most athletic player on the team. Edwards just had a 41 point game in Maine, and Poirier has had the best 3 game stretch, even in garbage time, that I have seen. I really think that we need to just run with the team as is, no trades until the off season / draft.

[sam_I_am]

I wouldn’t do it, and tbh I think Towns’ stock is plummeting.. not to worthlessness, but..

If your center can shoot 41% from 3 that is great. If he can’t defend the center position then he is not a center but a SF. And he is a SF that can’t guard SFs or PFs on switches either. It’s nice that is he 7 ft tall but having a SF play center is what we already have, except our SFs can at least defend PFs and wings reasonably. If you have to pay max to your center and he can’t defend, how do you find a rim protecting shot blocking PF to cover his back when you have max salary guards and wings?

That is why I say no to Towns.

[chrisab123]

I'd take Towns on this team in a cocaine heartbeat. Talented bigs don't grow on trees. But as far as realistic trade deadline moves go Danny won't make a single trade this week. He hasn't made a deadline move since IT and won't start now. The guys on this roster will once again be the guys on the roster in May for better or worse.

[Celts17Pride]

I have been advocating some form of end of bench trade, but since Brad has been gone to the 8 =9 man rotation, G. Williams, Wannamaker and Semi have really stepped it up. Add to that, IMO, R. Williams, Langford and Kanter are not going anywhere. Green is one of, if not the, most athletic player on the team. Edwards just had a 41 point game in Maine, and Poirier has had the best 3 game stretch, even in garbage time, that I have seen. I really think that we need to just run with the team as is, no trades until the off season / draft.

It’s Fools Gold. Playoffs are a different beast. Celtics need a quality vet or two otherwise it will be a quick exit from the playoffs

[Theocy]

I'm looking at philly and I think they need a trade. Embiid is a waste or just way too unhappy to play. I'm assuming they'll go with Ben Simmons down the line. Would a Gordon for Embiid (plus whatever we need to offer) make as an instant true contender.

And would Gordon make them a better team?

[JRoy]

I'm looking at philly and I think they need a trade. Embiid is a waste or just way too unhappy to play. I'm assuming they'll go with Ben Simmons down the line. Would a Gordon for Embiid (plus whatever we need to offer) make as an instant true contender.

And would Gordon make them a better team?

Depends on the Gordon.

Gordon Gecko? Maybe.

Gordon Lightfoot? Yes.

Gordon Hayward? You must be joking.

[chrisab123]

I have been advocating some form of end of bench trade, but since Brad has been gone to the 8 =9 man rotation, G. Williams, Wannamaker and Semi have really stepped it up. Add to that, IMO, R. Williams, Langford and Kanter are not going anywhere. Green is one of, if not the, most athletic player on the team. Edwards just had a 41 point game in Maine, and Poirier has had the best 3 game stretch, even in garbage time, that I have seen. I really think that we need to just run with the team as is, no trades until the off season / draft.

It’s Fools Gold. Playoffs are a different beast. Celtics need a quality vet or two otherwise it will be a quick exit from the playoffs

I don't trust that Danny will be able to make a trade. He has legitimately not made a trade for an actual rotation piece since Marcus Morris for Bradley. Other than the sign and trade semantics to make contracts work. He only makes no brainer trades that any of us could pull off. I feel he's a good GM but is very overrated around here. Vincent Poirer and other fodder should not be on this squad come Thursday since they need a legit big. However its all but a given that will be the case. Its just very frustrating seeing teams like Toronto make deals year after year while Danny stands pat at the deadline.

Again, what was the last trade deadline deal that "trader" Danny made? IT?

This team legimately could have had WCS for Porier and a late first and they didn't go for it. That's the type of guy who might thrive in this environment.

[Celts17Pride]

I have been advocating some form of end of bench trade, but since Brad has been gone to the 8 =9 man rotation, G. Williams, Wannamaker and Semi have really stepped it up. Add to that, IMO, R. Williams, Langford and Kanter are not going anywhere. Green is one of, if not the, most athletic player on the team. Edwards just had a 41 point game in Maine, and Poirier has had the best 3 game stretch, even in garbage time, that I have seen. I really think that we need to just run with the team as is, no trades until the off season / draft.

It’s Fools Gold. Playoffs are a different beast. Celtics need a quality vet or two otherwise it will be a quick exit from the playoffs

I don't trust that Danny will be able to make a trade. He has legitimately not made a trade for an actual rotation piece since Marcus Morris for Bradley. Other than the sign and trade semantics to make contracts work. He only makes no brainer trades that any of us could pull off. I feel he's a good GM but is very overrated around here. Vincent Poirer and other fodder should not be on this squad come Thursday since they need a legit big. However its all but a given that will be the case. Its just very frustrating seeing teams like Toronto make deals year after year while Danny stands pat at the deadline.

Again, what was the last trade deadline deal that "trader" Danny made? IT?

This team legimately could have had WCS for Porier and a late first and they didn't go for it. That's the type of guy who might thrive in this environment.

Trades are hard. Don’t know if Ainge will be able to do something or not but there is a need

[captain green]

Looks like John Collins is available he was killing it on my fantasy team. Plus I believe we can get him without Hayward or smart. Sounds like a win, win, win

[Homerclease]

Looks like John Collins is available he was killing it on my fantasy team. Plus I believe we can get him without Hayward or smart. Sounds like a win, win, win

Where have you heard John Collins is available?

[Andrew McCeltic]

So Collins, Drummond, and Myles Turner are all available.. Detroit is also willing to include Luke Kennard in a trade to move Drummond..

One rumor combination:

Drummond, MEM pick and Kennard to ATL
Expirings and MIL 1st to DET
John Collins to BOS

?

[100proof]

It’s Fools Gold. Playoffs are a different beast. Celtics need a quality vet or two otherwise it will be a quick exit from the playoffs

I don't trust that Danny will be able to make a trade. He has legitimately not made a trade for an actual rotation piece since Marcus Morris for Bradley. Other than the sign and trade semantics to make contracts work. He only makes no brainer trades that any of us could pull off. I feel he's a good GM but is very overrated around here. Vincent Poirer and other fodder should not be on this squad come Thursday since they need a legit big. However its all but a given that will be the case. Its just very frustrating seeing teams like Toronto make deals year after year while Danny stands pat at the deadline.

Again, what was the last trade deadline deal that "trader" Danny made? IT?

This team legimately could have had WCS for Porier and a late first and they didn't go for it. That's the type of guy who might thrive in this environment.

Trades are hard. Don’t know if Ainge will be able to do something or not but there is a need

Trqde are alot easier if you dont view late first round picks a pure cocaine.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Looks like John Collins is available he was killing it on my fantasy team. Plus I believe we can get him without Hayward or smart. Sounds like a win, win, win

Where have you heard John Collins is available?

Ric Bucher claims both Collins and Turner are available - https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2874053-nba-execs-dish-on-how-lakers-clips-d-rose-might-shake-up-trade-deadline

Shams wrote at The Athletic that teams have *called Atlanta* about Collins, but that the Hawks have also expressed interest in Capela, Steven Adams, and Dedmon..

[Andrew McCeltic]

Oh, and NESN put this up an hour ago: https://nesn.com/2020/02/andre-drummond-rumors-celtics-among-teams-with-strongest-interest-in-center/

We have the "strongest" interest in Drummond, along with the Hornets and Knicks, per Chris Sheridan at Forbes this afternoon: https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissheridan/2020/02/02/andre-drummond-being-sought-most-by-hornets-celtics-knicks/#45453ae62c35

Can you imagine getting paid to write short articles about other people's longer articles? How do I get in on that sh*t

[Celts17Pride]

Ric Bucher and Chris Sheridan are hacks. Don’t know how they keep getting paid