Sophmores, 2020-21 – Langford, G. Williams, Edwards, Waters, Tacko

[djFan71]

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I love the kid. SEC DPOY as a 5’8” guard....kid HAS to be fundamentally sound, and he is skilled and very heady.

Sucks that his contract is what it is, Because if it was a regular contract, we could MoveOn from crappy Wanamaker. Would rather have the kid in the lineup for the playoffs especially rather than that guy.

I wonder if he has been called up for tonight‘s game vs Sixers. Would rather have him in there against the Sixers than Wanamaker.

In the long run, his current contract is the best thing about him. If they had to sign him this year, he'd be playing spot minutes and you'd have wasted a year of his contract essentially. Now they can sign him in the offseason to a (hopefully) 4 year deal and he'll be an awesome third PG making basically league minimum. I'd rather have age 23-26 Tremont than age 22-25 Tremont (with Wanamaker taking some of the minutes his first season). He looks so **** good so soon, it's crazy he went 51.

I'll definitely cop to being wrong about the Waters pick. Was so tired of the declining height that night I hated the pick without knowing the player at all. But, dude knows how to play ball and his defense is solid. And I agree on the contract. Get that prime.

[zoyathedestroya]

Edwards goes for 41 points while Tremont hits the game-winner.

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Grant showing his PJ Tucker-esque hustle on the boards. First time in four tries the Celtics weren't outrebounded by double digits by Philly. First time they won the matchup this season w/o our best rebounder at that.

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Better picture quality for the game winner:

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[sam_I_am]

Great to see Edwards get his mojo back. A few more good games in Maine and a solid performance off the bench for the big club and I think this kid could rolling. I think the reality of the big leagues shook his confidence in himself. I still believe that he is a guy that will bring instant shooting off the bench. I expected it sooner and maybe it will still happen before the playoffs.

[Gant]

Great to see Edwards get his mojo back. A few more good games in Maine and a solid performance off the bench for the big club and I think this kid could rolling. I think the reality of the big leagues shook his confidence in himself. I still believe that he is a guy that will bring instant shooting off the bench. I expected it sooner and maybe it will still happen before the playoffs.

That's a good post. Confidence and experience do seem to be the issues. The shots he's been missing in the NBA are the exact same ones he hits in the G League, and hit in summer league and preseason. It's not like there isn't always a much bigger player looming over him on D and the shots are harder in the NBA. That's just the challenge for a player of his size.

Meanwhile, his defense has improved. Coming into the NBA, guys like Edwards and Waters with such size deficits are real longshots. Waters looks like the real deal though, and hopefully Edwards can get that quick long ball going in the big league.

One of the issues is with all the talent on the Celtics, Edwards rightly defers. He hasn't found his place yet, but the ability is there. It might not ever come, take a while, or he could just break out. We'll see...

[Scarletfire81]

Edwards and Tremont will definetly be NBA players. Patience can pay dividends. We shouldnt trade either unless its clearly a deal that needs to be made.

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Tacko

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Mike Scott is listed at 6'8".

[Parliament10]

Edwards and Tremont will definetly be NBA players. Patience can pay dividends. We shouldnt trade either unless its clearly a deal that needs to be made.

Totally Agree. They're both worth a wait.

[FinNasty]

My man! Can we plllleeeeaaaaassssseeee just get this kid some meaningful minutes? How long are we going to keep him in purgatory?

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My man! Can we plllleeeeaaaaassssseeee just get this kid some meaningful minutes? How long are we going to keep him in purgatory?

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That's not really a dream shake. It's just a slow spin into a hook shot, with a minor upfake mixed in. A dream shake involves spinning (or at least faking a spin) in both directions in the same move, if not two changes of direction. When McHale did something like that, it commonly was an "up and under". When Hakeem did there was commonly no "under" part but rather a fallaway/fadeaway shot, and the move was called a "dream shake", especially when there was more changing of spin direction than was common for McHale.

And the skyhook is a hookshot done with such precision and elongation that no fakery is needed at all.

[FinNasty]

My man! Can we plllleeeeaaaaassssseeee just get this kid some meaningful minutes? How long are we going to keep him in purgatory?

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That's not really a dream shake. It's just a slow spin into a hook shot, with a minor upfake mixed in. A dream shake involves spinning (or at least faking a spin) in both directions in the same move. When McHale did something like that, it commonly was an "up and under". When Hakeem did there was commonly no "under" part but rather a fallaway/fadeaway shot, and the move was called a "dream shake".

Lol it wasn’t my tweet. I just posted it for the video b/c it’s a nice move/footwork and a nice hook shot... which is more than just dunking like many thought he’d only be capable when coming out of UCF.

He’s not going to be challenged much on the Red Claws. He needs NBA competition to push himself and keep improving with stuff like this.

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My man! Can we plllleeeeaaaaassssseeee just get this kid some meaningful minutes? How long are we going to keep him in purgatory?

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That's not really a dream shake. It's just a slow spin into a hook shot, with a minor upfake mixed in. A dream shake involves spinning (or at least faking a spin) in both directions in the same move. When McHale did something like that, it commonly was an "up and under". When Hakeem did there was commonly no "under" part but rather a fallaway/fadeaway shot, and the move was called a "dream shake".

Lol it wasn’t my tweet. I just posted it for the video b/c it’s a nice move/footwork and a nice hook shot... which is more than just dunking like many thought he’d only be capable when coming out of UCF.

He’s not going to be challenged much on the Red Claws. He needs NBA competition to push himself and keep improving with stuff like this.

Alternatively, he could be force-fed post scoring chances in Maine to an extent that leads opponents to focus their strategies on post defense. That would give him a harder offensive test as well.

[zoyathedestroya]

It doesn't take much to like this guy.

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[FinNasty]

That's not really a dream shake. It's just a slow spin into a hook shot, with a minor upfake mixed in. A dream shake involves spinning (or at least faking a spin) in both directions in the same move. When McHale did something like that, it commonly was an "up and under". When Hakeem did there was commonly no "under" part but rather a fallaway/fadeaway shot, and the move was called a "dream shake".

Lol it wasn’t my tweet. I just posted it for the video b/c it’s a nice move/footwork and a nice hook shot... which is more than just dunking like many thought he’d only be capable when coming out of UCF.

He’s not going to be challenged much on the Red Claws. He needs NBA competition to push himself and keep improving with stuff like this.

Alternatively, he could be force-fed post scoring chances in Maine to an extent that leads opponents to focus their strategies on post defense. That would give him a harder offensive test as well.

I don't think there's enough size/athleticism in the G-League to really test him. He looks like a man among boys in that league. Plus, the Red Claws aren't intentionally running their offense through Tacko with the intent to force-feed and develop him.

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Lol it wasn’t my tweet. I just posted it for the video b/c it’s a nice move/footwork and a nice hook shot... which is more than just dunking like many thought he’d only be capable when coming out of UCF.

He’s not going to be challenged much on the Red Claws. He needs NBA competition to push himself and keep improving with stuff like this.

Alternatively, he could be force-fed post scoring chances in Maine to an extent that leads opponents to focus their strategies on post defense. That would give him a harder offensive test as well.

I don't think there's enough size/athleticism in the G-League to really test him. He looks like a man among boys in that league. Plus, the Red Claws aren't intentionally running their offense through Tacko with the intent to force-feed and develop him.

My point was that they should be, although I guess that might interfere with the development of other guys.

[radcot]

It doesn't take much to like this guy.

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Really hope he's a long-time Celtic. If he can get his basketball skills to match his communication skills, he'll be a superstar.

[31to6]

It doesn't take much to like this guy.

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he's got to kiss himself he's so pretty

[Parliament10]

It doesn't take much to like this guy.

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Really hope he's a long-time Celtic. If he can get his basketball skills to match his communication skills, he'll be a superstar.

Same here. This Kid has really impressed, as a Rotation player.
He's come from missing a ton of 3's, to really gaining confidence, and playing his game.

[peachbucket]

It doesn't take much to like this guy.

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Really hope he's a long-time Celtic. If he can get his basketball skills to match his communication skills, he'll be a superstar.

Same here. This Kid has really impressed, as a Rotation player.
He's come from missing a ton of 3's, to really gaining confidence, and playing his game.

I think Ainge has really accentuated character, work ethic, maturity, and intelligence in his drafting as of late. It's an approach that will be criticized because most of these players will have serious physical limitations that they will have to learn to overcome to be successful but will lead to much higher long term ROI. That's why I'm not judging any of his drafts till at least 3 years post once they have had a legit chance to develop and the other flashier picks have burned out due to their lacking those attributes.

[djFan71]

Grant's been great lately. I'm super interested to see him in the playoffs against the rest of upper class of the East. They all have long bigs that will be trying harder (and out there longer) than the regular season: Ibaka, Gasol, Siakam, Lopezes, Giannis, Al, Embiid, Turner, Sabonis, Bam*, etc.

My fear is he'll lose some effectiveness when everyone steps up their game, rotations shorten, etc. Kind of a microcosm for the team/smallball in general. I hope to be proven completely wrong on this. His positioning and instincts will still be great. Just a matter of will he get physically overwhelmed more or not.

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* Sorry Zoya, I couldn't bring myself to add Meyers