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Game 51: Detroit Pistons (17-33) vs. Denver Nuggets (34-15) - 12:30 PM ET

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Re: Game 51: Detroit Pistons (17-33) vs. Denver Nuggets (34-15) - 12:30 PM ET 

Post#41 » by pistonsbball » Mon Feb 3, 2020 10:05 am

Bruce Brown up to 36% from three, I didn't think he'd get there in season 2. Got to credit the kid.
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Post#42 » by Billl » Mon Feb 3, 2020 2:42 pm

pistonsbball wrote:Bruce Brown up to 36% from three, I didn't think he'd get there in season 2. Got to credit the kid.


Obviously improvement is good, but he's only made 29 3's on the season. He's getting wide open looks because teams aren't guarding him out there.
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Post#43 » by vege » Mon Feb 3, 2020 5:36 pm

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pistonsbball wrote:Bruce Brown up to 36% from three, I didn't think he'd get there in season 2. Got to credit the kid.


Obviously improvement is good, but he's only made 29 3's on the season. He's getting wide open looks because teams aren't guarding him out there.


He was getting wide open 3's last season and hitting them at a lower percentage. Bruce Brown is a good player. Great defender, can be a competent PG (much better than Frazier) and his offensive game developed. He'll likely develop in a good starter, we found a good one in the draft and we did it in the 2nd round.
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Re: Game 51: Detroit Pistons (17-33) vs. Denver Nuggets (34-15) - 12:30 PM ET 

Post#44 » by MotownMadness » Mon Feb 3, 2020 6:01 pm

vege wrote:
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pistonsbball wrote:Bruce Brown up to 36% from three, I didn't think he'd get there in season 2. Got to credit the kid.


Obviously improvement is good, but he's only made 29 3's on the season. He's getting wide open looks because teams aren't guarding him out there.


He was getting wide open 3's last season and hitting them at a lower percentage. Bruce Brown is a good player. Great defender, can be a competent PG (much better than Frazier) and his offensive game developed. He'll likely develop in a good starter, we found a good one in the draft and we did it in the 2nd round.

Stefanski likes his 2nd round guys. Dillon Brooks, Bruce Brown and the euro guy coming next year if he turns out are some solid hits.

Plus traded for a 2nd rounder rookie in SVI whos working out well.
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Post#45 » by vege » Mon Feb 3, 2020 6:11 pm

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vege wrote:
Billl wrote:
Obviously improvement is good, but he's only made 29 3's on the season. He's getting wide open looks because teams aren't guarding him out there.


He was getting wide open 3's last season and hitting them at a lower percentage. Bruce Brown is a good player. Great defender, can be a competent PG (much better than Frazier) and his offensive game developed. He'll likely develop in a good starter, we found a good one in the draft and we did it in the 2nd round.

Stefanski likes his 2nd round guys. Dillon Brooks, Bruce Brown and the euro guy coming next year if he turns out are some solid hits.

Plus traded for a 2nd rounder rookie in SVI whos working out well.


He wasted a lot of 2nds. Khyri Thomas costed us 2 2nds, the Euro guy also costed us 2 2nds and he was awful. Bruce Brown was great and the Svi trade which I hated at the time was also great.
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Re: Game 51: Detroit Pistons (17-33) vs. Denver Nuggets (34-15) - 12:30 PM ET 

Post#46 » by MotownMadness » Mon Feb 3, 2020 6:19 pm

vege wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:
vege wrote:
He was getting wide open 3's last season and hitting them at a lower percentage. Bruce Brown is a good player. Great defender, can be a competent PG (much better than Frazier) and his offensive game developed. He'll likely develop in a good starter, we found a good one in the draft and we did it in the 2nd round.

Stefanski likes his 2nd round guys. Dillon Brooks, Bruce Brown and the euro guy coming next year if he turns out are some solid hits.

Plus traded for a 2nd rounder rookie in SVI whos working out well.


He wasted a lot of 2nds. Khyri Thomas costed us 2 2nds, the Euro guy also costed us 2 2nds and he was awful. Bruce Brown was great and the Svi trade which I hated at the time was also great.

Kyhri never really got a shot. Id be willing to bet he can be a decent player and was pretty much looked at as a late 1st round pick in just about every mock draft at the time.

How do we know the euro guy was awful though?

I never understood why you hated that Bullock trade so bad
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Post#47 » by Billl » Mon Feb 3, 2020 6:30 pm

vege wrote:
Billl wrote:
pistonsbball wrote:Bruce Brown up to 36% from three, I didn't think he'd get there in season 2. Got to credit the kid.


Obviously improvement is good, but he's only made 29 3's on the season. He's getting wide open looks because teams aren't guarding him out there.


He was getting wide open 3's last season and hitting them at a lower percentage. Bruce Brown is a good player. Great defender, can be a competent PG (much better than Frazier) and his offensive game developed. He'll likely develop in a good starter, we found a good one in the draft and we did it in the 2nd round.


I wouldn't bet on him becoming a "good starter". The average starting guard in the league is around 16 ppg on 6+ 3 point attempts per game. The offense is so perimeter oriented now that it's hard to get by with a defensive specialist out there.

Getting any sort of rotation player in the second round is great value though. If he's "only" a good bench player, that's still a good pick.
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Post#48 » by vege » Mon Feb 3, 2020 7:18 pm

MotownMadness wrote:
vege wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:Stefanski likes his 2nd round guys. Dillon Brooks, Bruce Brown and the euro guy coming next year if he turns out are some solid hits.

Plus traded for a 2nd rounder rookie in SVI whos working out well.


He wasted a lot of 2nds. Khyri Thomas costed us 2 2nds, the Euro guy also costed us 2 2nds and he was awful. Bruce Brown was great and the Svi trade which I hated at the time was also great.

Kyhri never really got a shot. Id be willing to bet he can be a decent player and was pretty much looked at as a late 1st round pick in just about every mock draft at the time.

How do we know the euro guy was awful though?

I never understood why you hated that Bullock trade so bad


Bullock was the perfect player around Blake and Andre. Low usage, high efficient 3 point shooter, with above average defense, whom could guard 2s and 3s. Unlikely Kennard and Reggie Jackson, Bullock was great playing off Blake. In my mind we had 3 pieces, Bullock, Blake and Drummond.

Conley would've been the 4th, Snell could've been the 5th (with Rose, Kennard and Kieff off the bench that would've been a contender team if healthy). But that's in the past, Blake is way too injury prone to build around, so we should rebuild.

We got luck, Bullock got injured (he's been having a lot of injuries during his career) and Casey has a great track record on developing young players, he did a good job with Svi.

Svi had a great summer league, but he is unathletic and had a lot of trouble shooting when playing against NBA competition, so I wasn't high on him, I thought he was going to be a great D-League player and that's it.

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