Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized

[Simmons25]

If he is finished, like the guys above say, you are not gonna get much.

You are going to get a lot only if he is healthy at which point there is no point in trading him.

He’s not finished at all

Brown basically called him out on his attitude during the game yesterday

Will be interesting to see how he responds

Funny Brown called been out to shoot threes, not sure where happened there. I don't think it's fair to call Embiid out and hold him accountable, and keep letting Simmons slide. Embiid has been balling since he came in the league. Simmons had been playing like this for a month.

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I wouldn't really call what Brown did with Ben was "calling him out". Entirely different circumstances really... he said it after a win in the excitement of Ben hitting a 3 that game... and certainly not in anger at him not shooting 3's in a loss.

What he did with Embiid was definitely calling him out in a loss. I expect Joel will respond just like he did when Shaq and Charles called him out... but it will be shortlived.

[Mik317]

Brett is a dead man walking at the moment.

unless we somehow win it all this year, his ass is grass. The FO wanted him out last year but because of their precious optics firing a dude after that shot would have been a bad thing. Brett has a lot of coaches in his corner so firing him would probably not make the coach family too jazzed about jumping on....firing him after failing in a year in which contention was the idea? Much easier,.

[Kobblehead]

The Colangelo group don't want Brown or Embiid.

[Negrodamus]

Brett is a dead man walking at the moment.

unless we somehow win it all this year, his ass is grass. The FO wanted him out last year but because of their precious optics firing a dude after that shot would have been a bad thing. Brett has a lot of coaches in his corner so firing him would probably not make the coach family too jazzed about jumping on....firing him after failing in a year in which contention was the idea? Much easier,.

And Jay Wright won’t be available until April.

[snoopdogg88]

There was a point where they couldn’t fire Brett due to the optics. He was the good soldier during the process and had done a decent job with the current core.

We’re past that point. Even some of his biggest fans are losing faith. This team is underachieving too much even with the roster flaws there is too much talent here. They have to bite the bullet and make a change despite the inevitable whining that will come about the raw deal he got from the likes of woke Popovich.

[VDT]

I dont think the team has disappointed the previous years. Even last year despite the mediocre regular season. This year is the first underachieving year and it is still somewhat early.

At the same time Brown was always given a roster either without talent or with young talent and bad fit which is a combination that tends to underachieve relative to expectations irrespective of the coach.

[ProcessDoctor]

It's not even a question at this point that Brown is gone. The only thing that can save him is a championship.

[76ciology]

The only way Brett is fired is if there’s a good replacement candidate.

Is there anyone?

Good coaches should demand a higher salary than players, they’re a lot tougher to find.

[PhillyFan11]

I dont think the team has disappointed the previous years. Even last year despite the mediocre regular season. This year is the first underachieving year and it is still somewhat early.

At the same time Brown was always given a roster either without talent or with young talent and bad fit which is a combination that tends to underachieve relative to expectations irrespective of the coach.

Given or chose? Not sure any of us know the true answer, but personally I find it hard to believe that Elton was the sole source behind this past off seasons moves. At worst Brett had to have ok’d the moves imo, the power structure of Elton coming in and suddenly having 100% power doesn’t add up.

[sixers4real]

It's not even a question at this point that Brown is gone. The only thing that can save him is a championship.

Game 7 buzzer beating in the ECF is keeping him again.

[Stonk]

Brown and the FO look closer than ever, unfortunately.

We get this if he doesnt make *insert target here* he will be fired, every damn year from fans, and it never happens.

[76ciology]

Everybody wanted to dunk at Joel. Think about it.

Wanamaker, Jaylen, Tatum, Bam and so forth.

This guy was supposed to be an intimidating force on defense. Was the league’s best rim protectors.

Against the Hawks, he sagged so much off that Trae PnR.

[Mik317]

If I keep repeating the same **** without any real context maybe others will think its true before I move on to the next theory next week.

[VDT]

Regardless of the spacing, chemistry or anything else Embiid needs to act faster on the offense both mentally and physically. He needs to catch the ball and go, not survey the floor for 2-3 sec before he starts his move. And he needs to use his athleticism more, at the moment he moves like Ewing in his 30s.

[kuclas]

Everybody wanted to dunk at Joel. Think about it.

Wanamaker, Jaylen, Tatum, Bam and so forth.

This guy was supposed to be an intimidating force on defense. Was the league’s best rim protectors.

Against the Hawks, he sagged so much off that Trae PnR.

You can see how slow Embiid is now even when he tries hard. And I believe he gave 100% last night. He hustled for rebounds. His hand still hurting him a lot.

But he tried to trap last night in premiere. Bam had a step on the roll. Granted bam is faster than Embiid. But Embiid 2016-2017 is able to recover and make a play.

But bam rolls and gets easy and 1 layup with Embiid trailing making a foul trying to recover.

The years have caught up to him. I was in denial most of this season. But now I notice it more and more. He’s become slow and a liability on the perimeter. That’s why he sags a lot on defense.

Something happen last year with the knee when he was out. He hasn’t been the same. Is it a Todd gurley osteoarthritis Sixers aren’t saying?? Technically he’s healthy so to the sports betters. Sixers don’t have to disclose osteoarthritis.

[Ferry Avenue]

Embiid is pretty much finished. When he went back to Toronto for the first time after leaving there crying after a game seven and scored zero points, that told me all I needed to know about him. He's done.

Hes done what? Playing in the NBA ? For the sixers? Basketball?

He's done being a player any team should build around and run its offense through.

[Kobblehead]

“Nah, if you want to get someone the ball, we can find a way,” Embiid said. “Then again, coaches only can have so much control. They’re not on the court shooting the ball or passing, making plays. All they can do is call plays and we’ve just got to execute.”

“If you want to get me the ball, we can find a way,” Embiid added. “I don’t know why the ball didn’t…I had a pretty good start and I don’t know what happened then. I’ll have to go back and watch the tape.”

Trade request coming soon. We better fix this.

[Negrodamus]

It’s almost like we need a guard who can be a threat to score on the PnR but is great at getting the screener the ball.

[Arsenal]

It’s almost like we need a guard who can be a threat to score on the PnR but is great at getting the screener the ball.

There was a 23 year old all-star available for just money on the free agent market who does that. But we smartly chose to sign a backup Center for the same money instead.

[VDT]

Ideally what you need next to Embiid is a wing that can draw attention from the defense, can create, is at least decent passer and an above average shooter. Someone in the vein of McGrady for example. And then add roleplayers that can shoot and play some defense. Simmons is too far away from this archetype and it makes things tricky when building the team. Now even if you get a guard that can create and score it is hard to find a role in the offense for both Embiid and Simmons, meaning a role that would satisfy them.