Fake Trade Thread 2

[Diop]

I just don't see the need for Randle when we already have PJ and Miles. I like him as a basketball player, but he is an empty stats kind of guy similar to Al Jefferson.

unless he's playing centre? i agree, we don't need another power forward

edit: ugh, I got a horrible feeling in my gut. what if what Slam heard was true and Washington was used to get Drummond?
Combine all rumours:

Drummond for Batum and Washington,
Bogdan and Dedmon for Biyombo and Monk
Rozier for Randle.
MKG for Lee

Drummond, Dedmon
Randle, Marvin
Miles, Martin
Bogdan, Lee
Graham,

lucky its not NBA 2K and no one would ever gut their team like. right, RIGHT?!

[316Hornets]

I just don't see the need for Randle when we already have PJ and Miles. I like him as a basketball player, but he is an empty stats kind of guy similar to Al Jefferson.

unless he's playing centre? i agree, we don't need another power forward

Randle at center could be an interesting choice. The Rockets are running a similar smallball lineup with Tucker at Center. I guess it would depend on what the Knicks want. Definitely not trading PJ, Graham, Rozier, or lotto picks.

[Diop]

I just don't see the need for Randle when we already have PJ and Miles. I like him as a basketball player, but he is an empty stats kind of guy similar to Al Jefferson.

unless he's playing centre? i agree, we don't need another power forward

Randle at center could be an interesting choice. The Rockets are running a similar smallball lineup with Tucker at Center. I guess it would depend on what the Knicks want. Definitely not trading PJ, Graham, Rozier, or lotto picks.

if i thought he could play centre without making us pathetic around the ring defensively, I could live with swapping Randle for Rozier.
But I don't see it. I think Randle, PJ, Miles would get continue to get beaten inside.

[-Ian-]

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[Diop]

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I wouldn't give up a first for Kennard, so hopefully we're out

[Diop]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=rc3jvku

Monk and Biz for Deadmon and Bogdanovic

This feels like the most likely for me. Monk could fit with fox and they get out of dedmons deal

[BigSlam]

I don't want Randle.

I have him on my Fantasy team, because he's great for fantasy stats, but in reality I HATE his actual game. He's a bull in a china shop - but not in a Zion kind of way, more in a "I'm getting mine no matter what and potentially at the cost of others" kind of way.

He's a PF version of Bake.

Do. Not. Want.

[Rays Pompadour]

The Hornets are casting nets. As the franchise is in no hurry to compete, the goal is value-based. If the value favors Charlotte, a deal may get done. If not...meh.

The MKG trade may be the best chance for something to actually get done. A smart team should find a way to get Marvin on their playoff roster.

[Hornet Mania]

I'm not too focused on improving the team for the remainder of the year, although if the right offer comes along I'm not so concerned with hurting the tank that I'd turn down a chance to improve.

If I were Mitch my #1, #2 and #3 priorities would be turning Marv/MKG/Biz into as many draft picks as possible. Probably a late 1st at best for Marv and then 2nds for the other two. Let's move the vets and open up plenty of development minutes for youngsters and G-league call-ups in the second half of the year.

[Soul Rebel]

I'm not too focused on improving the team for the remainder of the year, although if the right offer comes along I'm not so concerned with hurting the tank that I'd turn down a chance to improve.

If I were Mitch my #1, #2 and #3 priorities would be turning Marv/MKG/Biz into as many draft picks as possible. Probably a late 1st at best for Marv and then 2nds for the other two. Let's move the vets and open up plenty of development minutes for youngsters and G-league call-ups in the second half of the year.

Agree 100% with this.

I like Orlando's gamble on Fultz and the cost was minimal for the risk. That's the kind of trade, if any, we need to look for. Kupchak can find those deals and is stubborn enough not to piss away assets.....can't say the same for MJ, but Mitch seems to have a better grasp on keeping Jordan at bay.

I will be sorely disappointed if Drummond, Kennard, Capela, etc. are on our roster come Thursday. Let's embrace the tank this year and focus on '21 as our year to make moves.

[NCHeels2008]

I'm not too focused on improving the team for the remainder of the year, although if the right offer comes along I'm not so concerned with hurting the tank that I'd turn down a chance to improve.

If I were Mitch my #1, #2 and #3 priorities would be turning Marv/MKG/Biz into as many draft picks as possible. Probably a late 1st at best for Marv and then 2nds for the other two. Let's move the vets and open up plenty of development minutes for youngsters and G-league call-ups in the second half of the year.

Agree 100% with this.

I like Orlando's gamble on Fultz and the cost was minimal for the risk. That's the kind of trade, if any, we need to look for. Kupchak can find those deals and is stubborn enough not to piss away assets.....can't say the same for MJ, but Mitch seems to have a better grasp on keeping Jordan at bay.

I will be sorely disappointed if Drummond, Kennard, Capela, etc. are on our roster come Thursday. Let's embrace the tank this year and focus on '21 as our year to make moves.

I don't understand that, this draft sucks and lotto odds are flattened. I think a more functional higher performing team is better for the development of our kids. I don't really want Drummond or Capela unless they're cheap, Kennard would be a nice rotational piece,, Bogdan will be better than anything we can get in this draft

[bravor]

This draft does not suck, it's just short in franchise player potentials - and that remains to be seen. But compare to previous, i think you can find some pretty decent role players even in the 2nd round.
2018 draft was supposed to be great and it ended pretty meh.

One thing i dont get is how Zeller does not get any interest considering his age/contract and how he improved his game overall (even though the 3 pointer is still a work in progress).

[Chapelchilla]

I'm not too focused on improving the team for the remainder of the year, although if the right offer comes along I'm not so concerned with hurting the tank that I'd turn down a chance to improve.

If I were Mitch my #1, #2 and #3 priorities would be turning Marv/MKG/Biz into as many draft picks as possible. Probably a late 1st at best for Marv and then 2nds for the other two. Let's move the vets and open up plenty of development minutes for youngsters and G-league call-ups in the second half of the year.

Agree 100% with this.

I like Orlando's gamble on Fultz and the cost was minimal for the risk. That's the kind of trade, if any, we need to look for. Kupchak can find those deals and is stubborn enough not to piss away assets.....can't say the same for MJ, but Mitch seems to have a better grasp on keeping Jordan at bay.

I will be sorely disappointed if Drummond, Kennard, Capela, etc. are on our roster come Thursday. Let's embrace the tank this year and focus on '21 as our year to make moves.

Lots of good points. I would also add that I am almost positive Jordan bringing in the 2 new owner/partners who supposedly guaranteed our coming financial losses would be covered this offseason was precisely because Mitch knew Jordan would not want the financial short term loss. The investors are apparently covering that revenue loss so I think Mitch can keep Jordan out of his rebuild program for a couple of years so we can get this turned around.
Personally I want only picks or maybe young guys in need of a new scene for our expirings and failures (Marv, MKG, Biz, Batum, Monk, Bacon etc).
Keep the other guys and acquire picks should be the plan.

[316Hornets]

I'm not too focused on improving the team for the remainder of the year, although if the right offer comes along I'm not so concerned with hurting the tank that I'd turn down a chance to improve.

If I were Mitch my #1, #2 and #3 priorities would be turning Marv/MKG/Biz into as many draft picks as possible. Probably a late 1st at best for Marv and then 2nds for the other two. Let's move the vets and open up plenty of development minutes for youngsters and G-league call-ups in the second half of the year.

Agree 100% with this.

I like Orlando's gamble on Fultz and the cost was minimal for the risk. That's the kind of trade, if any, we need to look for. Kupchak can find those deals and is stubborn enough not to piss away assets.....can't say the same for MJ, but Mitch seems to have a better grasp on keeping Jordan at bay.

I will be sorely disappointed if Drummond, Kennard, Capela, etc. are on our roster come Thursday. Let's embrace the tank this year and focus on '21 as our year to make moves.

I don't understand that, this draft sucks and lotto odds are flattened. I think a more functional higher performing team is better for the development of our kids. I don't really want Drummond or Capela unless they're cheap, Kennard would be a nice rotational piece,, Bogdan will be better than anything we can get in this draft

Bogdan would just be a rental though. His contract will expire at the end of the year and then we'll have to pay a lot to keep him. So, you jeopardize your draft position and commit to overpaying a guy for what?

[NCHeels2008]

Agree 100% with this.

I like Orlando's gamble on Fultz and the cost was minimal for the risk. That's the kind of trade, if any, we need to look for. Kupchak can find those deals and is stubborn enough not to piss away assets.....can't say the same for MJ, but Mitch seems to have a better grasp on keeping Jordan at bay.

I will be sorely disappointed if Drummond, Kennard, Capela, etc. are on our roster come Thursday. Let's embrace the tank this year and focus on '21 as our year to make moves.

I don't understand that, this draft sucks and lotto odds are flattened. I think a more functional higher performing team is better for the development of our kids. I don't really want Drummond or Capela unless they're cheap, Kennard would be a nice rotational piece,, Bogdan will be better than anything we can get in this draft

Bogdan would just be a rental though. His contract will expire at the end of the year and then we'll have to pay a lot to keep him. So, you jeopardize your draft position and commit to overpaying a guy for what?

Why wouldn't we keep him? Most of our money is coming off and a lot of our starters are cost controlled for a few years

[Rich4114]

I really don't want to see us chase marginal improvements via trade. If we can buy low on a younger guy who could use a change of scenery that is one thing. Especially acquiring any kind of draft capital, even if it's a ways in the future would be a good thing. But getting someone who gives us 2-3 more wins this year is counterproductive.

I'm actually not totally against the Randle thing since we'd be trading Rozier away (though I would rather it be for someone who can play center) as I think while Rozier offers some reliable scoring - the way he gets his points don't equate to wins. Devonte is the future PG and even if he's not, neither is Rozier except Rozier's value will likely never be higher than it is right now. Send him to a PG desperate team and maybe package him with another big contract to in exchange for building blocks.

[DY_nasty]

lol knicks fo getting aired out

sources didn't see that coming huh

[316Hornets]

Why wouldn't we keep him? Most of our money is coming off and a lot of our starters are cost controlled for a few years

We lose value by adding him now. We are going to have to give up an asset in a trade to get him. I'd rather just bid on him this summer and let the young guys develop this year. This is the first year of our rebuild. I don't even know why we are talking about adding marginal improvements. You either add an Allstar caliber player or you tank.

[NCHeels2008]

Why wouldn't we keep him? Most of our money is coming off and a lot of our starters are cost controlled for a few years

We lose value by adding him now. We are going to have to give up an asset in a trade to get him. I'd rather just bid on him this summer and let the young guys develop this year. This is the first year of our rebuild. I don't even know why we are talking about adding marginal improvements. You either add an Allstar caliber player or you tank.

as long as it is a low asset I think there is a benefit to bringing him in now, seeing how he fits with the team. You also get his (restricted) Bird rights, so you can always do what Milwaukee did with Brogdon if the fit is mediocre/poor or MJ cheaps out.

[Chapelchilla]

Why wouldn't we keep him? Most of our money is coming off and a lot of our starters are cost controlled for a few years

We lose value by adding him now. We are going to have to give up an asset in a trade to get him. I'd rather just bid on him this summer and let the young guys develop this year. This is the first year of our rebuild. I don't even know why we are talking about adding marginal improvements. You either add an Allstar caliber player or you tank.

as long as it is a low asset I think there is a benefit to bringing him in now, seeing how he fits with the team. You also get his (restricted) Bird rights, so you can always do what Milwaukee did with Brogdon if the fit is mediocre/poor or MJ cheaps out.

I dont mind a swap for Monk to see if he works out in the line up but nothing more then that better go out.