Trade Targets

[Young Sterling]

If this KLove/Tristan Thompson rumor has any truth, we should try to pry away Larry Nance Jr. as a throw in. Was always a fan when he was on the lakers, just fills up the stat sheet with hustle and has gotten seemingly better with a larger role on the Cavs.

[og15]

One guy that I think we could possibly get that could solve several problems for us is Olynyk. Miami may be looking to get Iggy and KO would have salary that could facilitate such a deal. We could move Harkless to Memphis in such a deal. KO has size and could play alongside Zu and Trez. KO's stock is down right now and he isn't getting on the court much. However, he is a better overall player than PP and Green.

KO is only 1 mpg or so below his career average and he's within 3-4 minutes of his career high mpg, so I wouldn't really say he isn't getting on the court much. This is about how much he's gotten on the court all his career and he's firmly planted in the Heat rotation. I like the idea though.

He started 36 games last season for the Heat and none this season. He was getting DNPs and limited minutes since mid-December until just recently. The increase likely due to the Heat's showcasing him.

Here is a recent article about KO: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidramil/2020/12/30/does-kelly-olynyk-still-have-a-role-in-miami/#3dcdf22c39f1

Good find, and interesting, I didn't know he had been having a reduced role recently. That certainly bodes well for someone trying to trade for him.

[esqtvd]

KO is only 1 mpg or so below his career average and he's within 3-4 minutes of his career high mpg, so I wouldn't really say he isn't getting on the court much. This is about how much he's gotten on the court all his career and he's firmly planted in the Heat rotation. I like the idea though.

He started 36 games last season for the Heat and none this season. He was getting DNPs and limited minutes since mid-December until just recently. The increase likely due to the Heat's showcasing him.

Here is a recent article about KO: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidramil/2020/12/30/does-kelly-olynyk-still-have-a-role-in-miami/#3dcdf22c39f1

Good find, and interesting, I didn't know he had been having a reduced role recently. That certainly bodes well for someone trying to trade for him.

Olynyk is just what we need, a 3rd big who can give Trezz a blow and also give us some minutes at the 4.

[clipperlover]

Rumors have Houston, Atlanta, Minny and Denver in a 4 team trade. Covington going to the Rockets which I do not like, Capela (and Nene) to Atlanta. Everything else is just garbage. Guess Denver decided to help in order to ensure Houston trades both of their bigs away. Houston thinking they can beat Denver, Lakers or Jazz by going small is laughable. Covington helps them match up better against us, but doesn't put them over the top.

[MartinToVaught]

Rumors have Houston, Atlanta, Minny and Denver in a 4 team trade. Covington going to the Rockets which I do not like, Capela (and Nene) to Atlanta. Everything else is just garbage. Guess Denver decided to help in order to ensure Houston trades both of their bigs away. Houston thinking they can beat Denver, Lakers or Jazz by going small is laughable. Covington helps them match up better against us, but doesn't put them over the top.

Actually, I'm less worried about the Houston matchup now that they've traded Capela and have somehow convinced themselves that they don't need bigs.

[Roscoe Sheed]

Rumors have Houston, Atlanta, Minny and Denver in a 4 team trade. Covington going to the Rockets which I do not like, Capela (and Nene) to Atlanta. Everything else is just garbage. Guess Denver decided to help in order to ensure Houston trades both of their bigs away. Houston thinking they can beat Denver, Lakers or Jazz by going small is laughable. Covington helps them match up better against us, but doesn't put them over the top.

Actually, I'm less worried about the Houston matchup now that they've traded Capela and have somehow convinced themselves that they don't need bigs.

I kind of feel the same way. Capela always seemed to hurt the clippers. However, harden scares me no matter what- when he gets hot he is impossible to stop. Also, he still gets ridiculous calls. Additionally, Westbrook hates Beverley so much that he plays with extra focus against the clippers

[NippySudz]

Rumors have Houston, Atlanta, Minny and Denver in a 4 team trade. Covington going to the Rockets which I do not like, Capela (and Nene) to Atlanta. Everything else is just garbage. Guess Denver decided to help in order to ensure Houston trades both of their bigs away. Houston thinking they can beat Denver, Lakers or Jazz by going small is laughable. Covington helps them match up better against us, but doesn't put them over the top.

Actually, I'm less worried about the Houston matchup now that they've traded Capela and have somehow convinced themselves that they don't need bigs.

Fertitta is in contention for one of the worst owners in sports. Thankfully.

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[QRich3]

I don't know, while it's a risky trade for them to be left with no bigs, we are the team they match up the best with in the West now. I'd rather a rim roller like Capela hurting us than a horde of wings harassing Kawhi and George and killing most of our playmaking. It's not like Trez is gonna make them pay by himself now, Tucker is actually a pretty good defender for him.

What this trade does though, is signal once again the Rockets' owner mandate to duck the tax and spend less, which is good cause it hurts a direct opponent long term.

Oh and in the Nuggets side, they dump two useful kids in the rotation for worse players with less upside and a pick in the 20's. So that's good, at least short term.

[NippySudz]

I don't know, while it's a risky trade for them to be left with no bigs, we are the team they match up the best with in the West now. I'd rather a rim roller like Capela hurting us than a horde of wings harassing Kawhi and George and killing most of our playmaking. It's not like Trez is gonna make them pay by himself now, Tucker is actually a pretty good defender for him.

What this trade does though, is signal once again the Rockets' owner mandate to duck the tax and spend less, which is good cause it hurts a direct opponent long term.

Oh and in the Nuggets side, they dump two useful kids in the rotation for worse players with less upside and a pick in the 20's. So that's good, at least short term.

Yeah pj and cov harassing is not a sight I want to see. But I think the clippers still pull it off. I don't know of this rockets team can get past the jazz as currently constructed.

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[QRich3]

Yeah, I think they're betting that they can play Gobert off the floor with switch+iso after switch+iso. And it's not a bad bet, they've done it in the past a few times, and that's been one of the main reasons they've easily sent the Jazz home in the past two postseasons.

They're probably gonna do the same to Zu, who could hurt them a lot in the offensive glass, but won't be able to stay with Harden and Westbrook isos when he has to defend them.

It's not a bad bet and it's a better trade for the Rockets than most people are acknowledging imo. I'm with you in that I still think we're superior though.

[NippySudz]

Yeah, I think they're betting that they can play Gobert off the floor with switch+iso after switch+iso. And it's not a bad bet, they've done it in the past a few times, and that's been one of the main reasons they've easily sent the Jazz home in the past two postseasons.

They're probably gonna do the same to Zu, who could hurt them a lot in the offensive glass, but won't be able to stay with Harden and Westbrook isos when he has to defend them.

It's not a bad bet and it's a better trade for the Rockets than most people are acknowledging imo. I'm with you in that I still think we're superior though.

It's kinda different though. This Houston rockets team isn't a good three point shooting team..they take a lot of threes and don't make them.

I can see a bad three point shooting night that costs them games in the playoffs. I don't think it's going to work out.

Long shots leads to long rebounds and they just gave away rebounding. They're not golden State. Covington is not ariza

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[QRich3]

I don't know, I like Covington more than Ariza. And they don't have Chris Paul who was integral to that style, but Westbrook, while a bad three point shooter, can isolate in the perimeter and be at the rim dunking before a 7 footer realizes he's blowing by him.

They have options, I like that trade for them more than most people.

[NippySudz]

I don't know, I like Covington more than Ariza. And they don't have Chris Paul who was integral to that style, but Westbrook, while a bad three point shooter, can isolate in the perimeter and be at the rim dunking before a 7 footer realizes he's blowing by him.

They have options, I like that trade for them more than most people.

Covington isn't a good fit for that team. I liked Covington for the clippers or Lakers because Covington would at least shoot the ball while Moe harmless will not. On the Lakers he would be the wing defender they need and another guy who can hit three.

In Houston, I don't like him there. He's not a dead eye shooter..he's a decent three pointer. Career 35% percent.

They're going to shoot a lot of threes. They took sixtyish against the hornets. It worked out for them

They cannot sustain for a playoff run against top teams imo. They can win a round or so but they're not going to win a chip playing like that.

If Covington was a 46% 3p shooter and still the wing defender he is, then I'd like it a little more but as of now, I don't.

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[clipperlover]

Yeah, I think they're betting that they can play Gobert off the floor with switch+iso after switch+iso. And it's not a bad bet, they've done it in the past a few times, and that's been one of the main reasons they've easily sent the Jazz home in the past two postseasons.

Not completely true. Capela keeping Gobert form dominating was a big reason they beat the Jazz. Who is going to replace Capela's rebounding and shot blocking to offset Gobert? Capela had some big blocks vs Gobert in those matchups.

I guess we should be honored by the Covington move because it clearly is a move to help them match-up better vs us. Now, we just have to see what the front office can do to add some size for us.

[esqtvd]

not feeling the Morey genius on this one
dunno why Capela was thought to be the problem

and Philly fans grew to hate Covington because he always seemed to take the 3 just when they needed it
and miss it every
frigging
time
LOL


some NBA experts think Morey has another deal up his sleeve, presumably for a big
if he can get Drummond all is forgiven

[nickhx2]

I don't know, I like Covington more than Ariza. And they don't have Chris Paul who was integral to that style, but Westbrook, while a bad three point shooter, can isolate in the perimeter and be at the rim dunking before a 7 footer realizes he's blowing by him.

They have options, I like that trade for them more than most people.

i'm not sure i like the trade for them. but if they're gonna do it, that's the right team and coach to do it with. so i imagine they have some pretty good ideas in mind.

[Yogatti]

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Thompson already has a deal in place, he will be leaving before the deadline.

Is it us??

[esqtvd]

rumor is that the Lakers are offering Kuzma

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[TucsonClip]

Morris makes sense in a vacuum, but hes another high usage ball stopper and isnt great on the glass. I would love his shooting on the perimeter, and hes tough, but I cant say hes the answer to our problems. Id say we give up defense (Harkless) for offense. And we toss away a #1 in the process.

Difficult for me to quantify how much better we are with Morris than Harkless. Obviously, if his shooting carries over, he makes us better, but will it? Hes a career 37% 3PT shooter. Certainly not a slam dunk he improves our rotation, but at least he opens the floor and you can bake him into the playoff rotation. Harkless seems matchup dependant in that regard.

[NippySudz]

Morris makes sense in a vacuum, but hes another high usage ball stopper and isnt great on the glass. I would love his shooting on the perimeter, and hes tough, but I cant say hes the answer to our problems. Id say we give up defense (Harkless) for offense. And we toss away a #1 in the process.

Difficult for me to quantify how much better we are with Morris than Harkless. Obviously, if his shooting carries over, he makes us better, but will it? Hes a career 37% 3PT shooter. Certainly not a slam dunk he improves our rotation, but at least he opens the floor and you can bake him into the playoff rotation. Harkless seems matchup dependant in that regard.

The only thing that concerns me with Morris is attitude. Will he buy in or is he about getting his money? He turned down the opportunity to join the clippers early and it was the only good pay day out there.

How angry will be be if new York trades him after feeling they might pay him the contract he was looking for?

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