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Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#421 » by Michaellam1987 » Wed Feb 5, 2020 4:42 am

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Michaellam1987 wrote:I would love to acquire Aaron Gordon, but we don’t have any assets that can attract ORL


Not saying you’re wrong, but other than jumping high, why do people think Aaron Gordon is worth giving up assets for? Poor shooter and a poor defender. Is it just because he’s young?


I think he is an above average defender, super athletic, under reasonable contracts for further more years, big enough to play some PF, one weakness of DAL is that we always are bullied by opposite team in the post when there are mismatches, Gordon can help to solve this
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Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#422 » by arkuo » Wed Feb 5, 2020 5:36 am

Michaellam1987 wrote:
dirkforpres wrote:
Michaellam1987 wrote:I would love to acquire Aaron Gordon, but we don’t have any assets that can attract ORL


Not saying you’re wrong, but other than jumping high, why do people think Aaron Gordon is worth giving up assets for? Poor shooter and a poor defender. Is it just because he’s young?


I think he is an above average defender, super athletic, under reasonable contracts for further more years, big enough to play some PF, one weakness of DAL is that we always are bullied by opposite team in the post when there are mismatches, Gordon can help to solve this


Dallas needs to think long term here. And when you think Western conference playoffs, that road goes through Lebron James, Paul George and Kawhi Leonard. And we defend those guys using DFS and Luka? We're not getting far. You need guys who can defend those if you want a fighting chance. Houston just traded their starting center for Covington. Covington will be tasked to match up with those names. To go into the playoffs without a starting center, but a defender to matchup with Lebron and Kawhi. That says a lot.

Gordon can defend some. He's 6'9 and also quick. Above average defender. He's no Bruce Bowen, but I'll take him if available.
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Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#423 » by Bluelabel24 » Wed Feb 5, 2020 6:31 am

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Michaellam1987 wrote:
dirkforpres wrote:
Not saying you’re wrong, but other than jumping high, why do people think Aaron Gordon is worth giving up assets for? Poor shooter and a poor defender. Is it just because he’s young?


I think he is an above average defender, super athletic, under reasonable contracts for further more years, big enough to play some PF, one weakness of DAL is that we always are bullied by opposite team in the post when there are mismatches, Gordon can help to solve this


Dallas needs to think long term here. And when you think Western conference playoffs, that road goes through Lebron James, Paul George and Kawhi Leonard. And we defend those guys using DFS and Luka? We're not getting far. You need guys who can defend those if you want a fighting chance. Houston just traded their starting center for Covington. Covington will be tasked to match up with those names. To go into the playoffs without a starting center, but a defender to matchup with Lebron and Kawhi. That says a lot.

Gordon can defend some. He's 6'9 and also quick. Above average defender. He's no Bruce Bowen, but I'll take him if available.

agree with this sir.. Gordon is a good defender and has some playoff experience, still pretty young and has ton of room to develop( shot 35% from 3 last yr so hes not that bad). The best thing about him is his contract, it is on a decreasing scale. by 2021-2022 its gonna be 16M yr thats gonna be a real bargain.
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Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#424 » by ImMavsMan61 » Wed Feb 5, 2020 1:24 pm

I agree with the MavsMoneyBall article about NOT trading for Iguodala. He has no future here as he is 39 years old so WHY would we use any assets to get him? With Covington off the trade market now I would say look for some smaller deal for a 2/3 or 3/4 type player. I don't like the RHJ or Gilchrest ideas as they can't shoot the 3 and while they would be good on the defensive end they would screw up our current offense by allowing the other teams to back off and help on other shooters.

I read somewhere about a smaller deal like Glen Robinson III or Alec Burks. I would be happy with a deal that brings Robinson here. He is a decent 3-pt shooter and a good defender. Also at 26 he has a future here unlike Iguodala. It's unlikely any player mentioned by the any of us will happen. The Mavs may do something but usually it is a name that has not really been discussed.

If they do nothing and keep the early 2nd round pick I am OK with that. We could add another young prospect.
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Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#425 » by arkuo » Wed Feb 5, 2020 3:34 pm

Denver has made Gary Harris "very available" in trade talks prior to the deadline.

Personally I think he can be the 3rd guy behind Luka and KP. Solid defender who can find his rhythm here. Luka could very well use a THJ and a Harris to flank him. Harris can play that Eric Gordon role here. Much needed firepower. And is only 25 years old.
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Post#426 » by daoneandonly » Wed Feb 5, 2020 4:00 pm

arkuo wrote:Denver has made Gary Harris "very available" in trade talks prior to the deadline.

Personally I think he can be the 3rd guy behind Luka and KP. Solid defender who can find his rhythm here. Luka could very well use a THJ and a Harris to flank him. Harris can play that Eric Gordon role here. Much needed firepower. And is only 25 years old.


Not sure why they'd trade him when they just traded Beasley. Unless porter is ready to play full minutes at the 3 and they move barton to the 2
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Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#427 » by arkuo » Wed Feb 5, 2020 4:11 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
arkuo wrote:Denver has made Gary Harris "very available" in trade talks prior to the deadline.

Personally I think he can be the 3rd guy behind Luka and KP. Solid defender who can find his rhythm here. Luka could very well use a THJ and a Harris to flank him. Harris can play that Eric Gordon role here. Much needed firepower. And is only 25 years old.


Not sure why they'd trade him when they just traded Beasley. Unless porter is ready to play full minutes at the 3 and they move barton to the 2


Im guessing, but Harris has been having a down year ala Aaron Gordon. Harris is only averaging 10 pts per game this year. And Denver just paid Jamal Murray the max. As well as Nikola Jokic. So they will need pieces around those two, and with Milsap expiring this summer, that adds more holes to that starting lineup.

I'm thinking Dwight Powell + Delon Wright + GSW 2nd Rounder for Gary Harris. I think that's a fair offer. Powell can replace Milsap if he's leaving this summer, while waiting for Michael Porter Jr to be ready for that starting spot. Delon Wright replaces Harris' spot. The early 2nd rounder sweetens the deal. It plugs more holes in that starting 5 for them.
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Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#428 » by HMFFL » Wed Feb 5, 2020 5:10 pm

Tristan Thompson (Expiring) interest me and so does Nene Hilario. The Hawks will more than likely waive Nene.

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Post#429 » by fuller4379 » Wed Feb 5, 2020 6:40 pm

arkuo wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
arkuo wrote:Denver has made Gary Harris "very available" in trade talks prior to the deadline.

Personally I think he can be the 3rd guy behind Luka and KP. Solid defender who can find his rhythm here. Luka could very well use a THJ and a Harris to flank him. Harris can play that Eric Gordon role here. Much needed firepower. And is only 25 years old.


Not sure why they'd trade him when they just traded Beasley. Unless porter is ready to play full minutes at the 3 and they move barton to the 2


Im guessing, but Harris has been having a down year ala Aaron Gordon. Harris is only averaging 10 pts per game this year. And Denver just paid Jamal Murray the max. As well as Nikola Jokic. So they will need pieces around those two, and with Milsap expiring this summer, that adds more holes to that starting lineup.

I'm thinking Dwight Powell + Delon Wright + GSW 2nd Rounder for Gary Harris. I think that's a fair offer. Powell can replace Milsap if he's leaving this summer, while waiting for Michael Porter Jr to be ready for that starting spot. Delon Wright replaces Harris' spot. The early 2nd rounder sweetens the deal. It plugs more holes in that starting 5 for them.


I don’t think anyone is going to take on Powell’s corpse.
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Post#430 » by ejs78 » Wed Feb 5, 2020 7:47 pm

I use to really like Harris. Hewill be making 20 million soon and can't stay on the court...pass

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Post#431 » by ejs78 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 2:14 am

Either burkes or GRIII will be mav i got a feeling. Both are being held out tonight


Sorry had this in the wrong post.

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Post#432 » by dirkforpres » Thu Feb 6, 2020 2:21 am

ejs78 wrote:Either burkes or GRIII will be mav i got a feeling. Both are being held out tonight


Sorry had this in the wrong post.

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I’m thinking both. Lee and the GSW 2nd works money wise
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Post#433 » by ejs78 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 2:31 am

I would be all over this.

Still like Jackson for Valentine.
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ejs78 wrote:Either burkes or GRIII will be mav i got a feeling. Both are being held out tonight


Sorry had this in the wrong post.

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I’m thinking both. Lee and the GSW 2nd works money wise


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Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#434 » by tribulations » Thu Feb 6, 2020 4:06 am

HMFFL wrote:Tristan Thompson (Expiring) interest me and so does Nene Hilario. The Hawks will more than likely waive Nene.

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I'm on board with the idea of shoring up the paint and either of these guys are good gets imo.

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Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#435 » by ejs78 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 5:39 am

Nope
ejs78 wrote:I would be all over this.

Still like Jackson for Valentine.
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ejs78 wrote:Either burkes or GRIII will be mav i got a feeling. Both are being held out tonight


Sorry had this in the wrong post.

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I’m thinking both. Lee and the GSW 2nd works money wise


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Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#436 » by fuller4379 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 2:33 pm

Andrew Wiggins anyone? I don’t like his contract, but the Mavs aren’t going to have free agent money.
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Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#437 » by dirkforpres » Thu Feb 6, 2020 3:08 pm

fuller4379 wrote:Andrew Wiggins anyone? I don’t like his contract, but the Mavs aren’t going to have free agent money.


He better come with multiple picks attached. He is really really bad
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Post#438 » by arkuo » Thu Feb 6, 2020 3:17 pm

fuller4379 wrote:Andrew Wiggins anyone? I don’t like his contract, but the Mavs aren’t going to have free agent money.


Karl Towns is the only player worth getting from that sorry Minnesota team. Maybe Cuban is waiting for that team to implode and just cash in like he did with KP and the Knicks.
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Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#439 » by ImMavsMan61 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 3:33 pm

My first thoughts on Wiggins was that would be Awesome as the 3rd star. BUT, after looking into the numbers I am not so sure anymore. He does score Points but is only a mediocre rebounder and his shooting is also mediocre. He is not rated great on defense. If the Mavs think he can blossom in a new situation then maybe but even with Towns and Jimmy Butler playing next to him he did not turn into the kind of player that everyone expected. I would almost rather have someone like Glen Robinson III. Not as big a name but maybe a better fit.

He is kind of the opposite of a 3 and D guy. Not a good 3pt shooter and not good on defense.
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Re: Trade Central 19-20 / cap info (pg.1) 

Post#440 » by Darren » Thu Feb 6, 2020 4:12 pm

dirkforpres wrote:
fuller4379 wrote:Andrew Wiggins anyone? I don’t like his contract, but the Mavs aren’t going to have free agent money.


He better come with multiple picks attached. He is really really bad


Dallas is mentioned as third team for a Wiggins for Russell trade. Guess what? I think Okogie or Diop could be pretty good option depending on what's offered. The Mavs is pretty bad defensively. Any athletic player helps.

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