OT: TV and Movies (with spoilers)

Bucksfan28 · Post #1861 » by **Bucksfan28** » Wed Feb 5, 2020 3:37 pm

humanrefutation wrote:
blazza18 wrote:Still a very good show but I wish Bojack was more fun during its end run.

I'm afraid to start the last few episodes because the end of the first half of the season implied that **** was going to get real dark.

Havent watched any of the new stuff (including the penultimate half-season) b/c quite frankly Im not ready for the emotion. Maybe this weekend Ill push through it.

Post #1862 » by **humanrefutation** » Wed Feb 5, 2020 3:58 pm

Plossum wrote:I’m with you. I enjoyed it but didn’t understand all the hype. I suspect I just didn’t “get” it.

Yeah. I don't think it's a matter of "getting" anything for me when it comes to Parasite. It just didn't really hit me as profound or groundbreaking enough to get an Academy Award Best Picture nom. Let me put it this way:

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There are some really obvious movie tropes that can make films predictable. One involves the main protagonists having everything work amazingly in the beginning before something happens that casts new light on their circumstances. It's at that moment in a film where the real action starts - where the plot takes shape and now you're getting a sense of what this movie is actually about.

So in this movie, you knew that the fact that the Kim family was able to essentially con their way into their new gigs was too easy - that there was going to a "twist," for lack of a better word, that would change the narrative. That isn't to say that first half wasn't humorous - it certainly was - but you knew it wasn't meant to be. It was clearly set up for a twist when they were chilling in the house while the Park family was out camping. It was dark and they were getting tipsy and everything was going well and then *DING DONG* the old maid is outside. And from years of watching horror movies, you know the old maid isn't just there on some sort of friendly mission - that she is going to reveal a secret that changes the whole trajectory of the story.

And so she does, revealing her husband-in-hiding in the bunker. Okay, that's interesting. Where is this story headed?

Inevitably, the Kim family's deceit is revealed to the maid and now she's holding them hostage. They overpower her and her deadbeat husband and toss them back into the bunker.

So, at that point, the obvious conclusion is that they won't just stay down there - they're going to be a factor in this story. And inevitably, the husband gets out and a bloody melee ensues (including the Daddy Kim taking out **** Daddy Park in some PTSD-like reaction to complaints about body odor). And then Daddy Kim goes and hides in the bunker. End of story.

Really? That's all there was? That's what we were building up to? Yes, there are these themes of class warfare present throughout. But there was nothing "notable" or "profound" about that from my POV - nothing that's going to make me consider this the kind of movie that deserves an BP nom at the Academy Awards, let alone the kind of movie that will stick with me for a long time.

Post #1863 » by **humanrefutation** » Wed Feb 5, 2020 4:00 pm

Bucksfan28 wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:
blazza18 wrote:Still a very good show but I wish Bojack was more fun during its end run.

I'm afraid to start the last few episodes because the end of the first half of the season implied that **** was going to get real dark.

Havent watched any of the new stuff (including the penultimate half-season) b/c quite frankly Im not ready for the emotion. Maybe this weekend Ill push through it.

Yeah, that's why I held back on starting Season 6 until around a month ago. It's can be such a fun and creative show - even when it's dealing with depressing and messy topics - but it hits deep for sure.

FrieAaron · Post #1864 » by **FrieAaron** » Wed Feb 5, 2020 5:29 pm

I don't think a movie has to tell a profound story to be great. I think "Parasite" is the best movie of the year because it is endlessly entertaining and expertly told. The script and editing are super tight and along with "1917" it easily has the best blocking of any film that I saw in 2019 - it really deserved a cinematography nod on top of everything else. Take a look at this video (obviously it contains spoilers for the movie) and pay attention not only to what the narrator is talking about but also the how camera moves. He points out some of the mirrored shots. The video is a little overdone, as these things tend to be, but it gets the point across:

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The entire movie is orchestrated just as expertly, starting out slowly and building the tension constantly up to the chaotic finale. It may not be surprising (

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) but I thought it was a hell of a ride.

BUCKnation · Post #1865 » by **BUCKnation** » Wed Feb 5, 2020 7:24 pm

Yeah, I'm very pro Parasite.

Having been to Seoul a few times,

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stellation · Post #1866 » by **stellation** » Wed Feb 5, 2020 9:18 pm

Bucksfan28 wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:
blazza18 wrote:Still a very good show but I wish Bojack was more fun during its end run.

I'm afraid to start the last few episodes because the end of the first half of the season implied that **** was going to get real dark.

Havent watched any of the new stuff (including the penultimate half-season) b/c quite frankly Im not ready for the emotion. Maybe this weekend Ill push through it.

I love Bojack, but most of my viewing has been relatively late at night lying half asleep on the lounge watching it alone (well, with my dog snoring next to me)- some of the episodes really hit me. I had to turn off the episode focusing on his mother's dementia and steel myself to come back to it later, it was beautiful and heartbreaking.

If great art has the capacity to move you then that show has been a true work of art, and everyone involved should be very proud of it (I'm sure they are).

buckboy · Post #1867 » by **buckboy** » Wed Feb 5, 2020 9:24 pm

Hmmmmmm.....never even tried Bojack. I had a complete misunderstanding of what it was. Will definitely give it a shot soon.

Just read the premise. Seems like it'll be good.

Post #1868 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Feb 5, 2020 9:29 pm

It was too depressing for me.

truly · Post #1869 » by **truly** » Wed Feb 5, 2020 9:43 pm

Looking forward to this.

Watch on YouTube

Post #1870 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Feb 5, 2020 9:46 pm

truly wrote:Looking forward to this.

Watch on YouTube

I am too. Season one had issues but I enjoyed it.

Rewatching Halt for the first time. It's wild to see how different the show was then to what it relatively quickly became.

Post #1871 » by **MickeyDavis** » Thu Feb 6, 2020 12:37 am

RIP Kirk Douglas. You lived a good life (103!)

Bucksfan28 · Post #1872 » by **Bucksfan28** » Thu Feb 6, 2020 2:26 am

stellation wrote:
Bucksfan28 wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:
I'm afraid to start the last few episodes because the end of the first half of the season implied that **** was going to get real dark.

Havent watched any of the new stuff (including the penultimate half-season) b/c quite frankly Im not ready for the emotion. Maybe this weekend Ill push through it.

I love Bojack, but most of my viewing has been relatively late at night lying half asleep on the lounge watching it alone (well, with my dog snoring next to me)- some of the episodes really hit me. I had to turn off the episode focusing on his mother's dementia and steel myself to come back to it later, it was beautiful and heartbreaking.

If great art has the capacity to move you then that show has been a true work of art, and everyone involved should be very proud of it (I'm sure they are).

All the BH talk made me anxious so i just started S6 and... what the **** man

xTitan · Post #1873 » by **xTitan** » Thu Feb 6, 2020 5:05 am

Just started watching the Stranger on Netflix, 3 episodes in, nothing but action if you like a good mystery.

Iheartfootball · Post #1874 » by **Iheartfootball** » Sun Feb 9, 2020 6:37 pm

buckboy wrote:Hmmmmmm.....never even tried Bojack. I had a complete misunderstanding of what it was. Will definitely give it a shot soon.

Just read the premise. Seems like it'll be good.

My two cents...boiled down to its core it’s about the human condition played mostly by animals. Which, thinking about it, makes sense since many of the characters are reacting using their reptilian brain out of fear of abandonment. It’s a gem.

Bucksfan28 · Post #1875 » by **Bucksfan28** » Sun Feb 9, 2020 10:11 pm

God damn, I could not get enough of Bojack's final season. Such an incredible tv show and that ending:

RogerMurdock · Post #1876 » by **RogerMurdock** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:56 am

Parasite is everything I want in a film. If something can come out of my brain and onto paper that is 1/4 as perfect as that masterpiece, I will be overjoyed.

BUCKnation · Post #1877 » by **BUCKnation** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:52 am

Really happy for everyone involved with Parasite. Well deserved, my favorite movie in a few years.

Post #1878 » by **humanrefutation** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:09 am

Good for Parasite. It wasn't my favorite film of the year, but I don't begrudge their success. Good for all involved.

blazza18 · Post #1879 » by **blazza18** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:10 am

A lot of people are very happy about it winning. Too happy if you ask me :reporter:

BroncoBuck · Post #1880 » by **BroncoBuck** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:46 am

Taron not getting a nom for Rocketman was baffling, he absolutely deserved it over Pryce. Recency bias I suppose (Rocketman came out so long ago). Glad to see Parasite clean up, and I’m glad 1917 received the bulk of the technical awards (Deakins is a mad man).