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Post#681 » by Crives » Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:01 pm

bwgood77 wrote:I can't imagine what this place would be like if we lost like this.....post from GB...


Sacramento trailed by 17 with 2:49 left. According to ESPN Stats and Info, entering Monday, NBA teams were 0-8,378 since 1996-97 when trailing by 17 or more in the final 3 minutes of the fourth quarter or overtime.


With 1:39 to go, up 13 still, Wiggins, Towns and the rest leave the game for garbage time, lol. This team has lost like 10 in a row, and they are trotting out garbage time lineups :lol: . Hield went to the line down 3 with under 4 seconds to go, makes his first, then misses the second on purpose, gets his own rebound and scores to tie it. Towns was on during this, so was Wiggins. What a **** show.


And to think I felt bad for the Hornets after our late game comeback.
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Post#682 » by starbosa10 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:16 am

Man if only we had gotten JA :(
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Post#683 » by ATTL » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:41 am

starbosa10 wrote:Man if only we had gotten JA :(


Need to do the right thing and trade up for haliburton. I bought a lot of stock in haliburton.
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Post#684 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:40 am

Yeah, they killed it in the draft. Even if we got Clarke, his efficiency and 3 ball is great. Check out tonight's stats for both. https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401161352 He is at 67.7 as a rookie for TS%, with 62/40/83 splits.
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Post#685 » by MathiasPW » Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:35 pm

So, NBA Stats has interactive Box Scores for a few years, now. You click on a certain stat and it will give you the video of that(those) play(s).

This allows you to select a player...say, Marquese Chriss. Then you can go to Splits/Shooting and click on "Dunks". Finally, if you add a filter for "Missed", you reach this gem right here:

https://tinyurl.com/tcadn7g

It's made even better since he's playing for another team, and the commentators disbelief or sheer silence is hilarious.
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Post#686 » by SunsRback4Good » Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:11 pm

Marquese Chriss has missed more dunks in his lifetime then Shaq missed fts.
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Post#687 » by Saberestar » Sat Feb 1, 2020 12:55 pm

MathiasPW wrote:So, NBA Stats has interactive Box Scores for a few years, now. You click on a certain stat and it will give you the video of that(those) play(s).

This allows you to select a player...say, Marquese Chriss. Then you can go to Splits/Shooting and click on "Dunks". Finally, if you add a filter for "Missed", you reach this gem right here:

https://tinyurl.com/tcadn7g

It's made even better since he's playing for another team, and the commentators disbelief or sheer silence is hilarious.

Wowww :lol:

Chriss and Josh Jackson are the worst (no) dunkers that I have seen in my life.
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Post#688 » by Saberestar » Sat Feb 1, 2020 12:56 pm

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Post#689 » by Fo-Real » Sat Feb 1, 2020 1:37 pm

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I like it, kid is gonna be pretty good. This is fuel for his fire, I want him on this team.
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Post#691 » by bwgood77 » Sat Feb 1, 2020 2:34 pm

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Post#692 » by IzzyT » Wed Feb 5, 2020 7:57 pm

I’m so excited to see how this pans out for Houston. Selfishly, I hope it works to some degree. We’re already moving toward a reality where all five players on the floor need to be able to shoot. Success with an ultra small lineup like this could force every player on the floor to have certain fundamental skills just to keep up offensively. I have a lot more I could say but is anyone else going to be really interested to see how Houston plays a five out offense featuring Harden and Westbrook? There’s not going to be any rim protection with those guys going 1on1 all game.
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Post#693 » by Bogyo » Wed Feb 5, 2020 8:50 pm

IzzyT wrote:I’m so excited to see how this pans out for Houston. Selfishly, I hope it works to some degree. We’re already moving toward a reality where all five players on the floor need to be able to shoot. Success with an ultra small lineup like this could force every player on the floor to have certain fundamental skills just to keep up offensively. I have a lot more I could say but is anyone else going to be really interested to see how Houston plays a five out offense featuring Harden and Westbrook? There’s not going to be any rim protection with those guys going 1on1 all game.


I think this is the other side of the fence, and it only works until a new Shaq comes along. Then you might have 5 guys on a team who can shoot and pass and defend a bit (or more), but they'll be giving up 6 inches and 40 pounds in the paint, which will equal a 70+ field goal percentage, plus the fouls. No amount of 3 pointers will close that gap, especially with the little dudes fouling out.
Hopefully - as I really don't like the 3 point contests disguised as basketball games.
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Post#694 » by MathiasPW » Wed Feb 5, 2020 9:07 pm

Bogyo wrote:
IzzyT wrote:I’m so excited to see how this pans out for Houston. Selfishly, I hope it works to some degree. We’re already moving toward a reality where all five players on the floor need to be able to shoot. Success with an ultra small lineup like this could force every player on the floor to have certain fundamental skills just to keep up offensively. I have a lot more I could say but is anyone else going to be really interested to see how Houston plays a five out offense featuring Harden and Westbrook? There’s not going to be any rim protection with those guys going 1on1 all game.


I think this is the other side of the fence, and it only works until a new Shaq comes along. Then you might have 5 guys on a team who can shoot and pass and defend a bit (or more), but they'll be giving up 6 inches and 40 pounds in the paint, which will equal a 70+ field goal percentage, plus the fouls. No amount of 3 pointers will close that gap, especially with the little dudes fouling out.
Hopefully - as I really don't like the 3 point contests disguised as basketball games.


It is not as simple as "be big, score in the paint", or Boban would be turning the NBA upside down. 3s rule + offensive foul-calling really creates difficulty for establishing position in the paint and/or getting the ball to the big-man inside. What happens now is, as soon as the big guy receives the ball in the paint, he is flooded with defenders as soon as he puts the ball down, who slap at the ball furiously, causing either a turnover or a forced shot before he can get position or kick the ball to a free shooter. It's a very inefficient play.
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Post#695 » by DirtyDez » Wed Feb 5, 2020 9:10 pm

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James Jones vindicated!
fromthetop321 wrote:I got Lebron number 1, he is also leading defensive player of the year. Curry's game still reminds me of Jeremy Lin to much.
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Post#696 » by IzzyT » Wed Feb 5, 2020 9:34 pm

MathiasPW wrote:
Bogyo wrote:
IzzyT wrote:I’m so excited to see how this pans out for Houston. Selfishly, I hope it works to some degree. We’re already moving toward a reality where all five players on the floor need to be able to shoot. Success with an ultra small lineup like this could force every player on the floor to have certain fundamental skills just to keep up offensively. I have a lot more I could say but is anyone else going to be really interested to see how Houston plays a five out offense featuring Harden and Westbrook? There’s not going to be any rim protection with those guys going 1on1 all game.


I think this is the other side of the fence, and it only works until a new Shaq comes along. Then you might have 5 guys on a team who can shoot and pass and defend a bit (or more), but they'll be giving up 6 inches and 40 pounds in the paint, which will equal a 70+ field goal percentage, plus the fouls. No amount of 3 pointers will close that gap, especially with the little dudes fouling out.
Hopefully - as I really don't like the 3 point contests disguised as basketball games.


It is not as simple as "be big, score in the paint", or Boban would be turning the NBA upside down. 3s rule + offensive foul-calling really creates difficulty for establishing position in the paint and/or getting the ball to the big-man inside. What happens now is, as soon as the big guy receives the ball in the paint, he is flooded with defenders as soon as he puts the ball down, who slap at the ball furiously, causing either a turnover or a forced shot before he can get position or kick the ball to a free shooter. It's a very inefficient play.


It would force the entire league to roster players who can do it all. If everyone has all the skills, what, then, becomes the separation factor? Size and athleticism. I could see post-play coming back in through the back door but this time featuring guys like KD who can do it all AND be 7’.

Maybe not, though.

Driving the minimum threshold for skill higher and higher should result in higher and higher quality basketball, which is what excites me.
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Post#697 » by GoodBehavior » Wed Feb 5, 2020 9:39 pm

I wonder how much Harden and Chris Paul regret last year's altercation. Had Paul stayed, and with the addition of Roco, that would have been a nasty lineup. Pride is a funny thing.
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Post#698 » by Bogyo » Wed Feb 5, 2020 9:53 pm

MathiasPW wrote:
Bogyo wrote:
IzzyT wrote:I’m so excited to see how this pans out for Houston. Selfishly, I hope it works to some degree. We’re already moving toward a reality where all five players on the floor need to be able to shoot. Success with an ultra small lineup like this could force every player on the floor to have certain fundamental skills just to keep up offensively. I have a lot more I could say but is anyone else going to be really interested to see how Houston plays a five out offense featuring Harden and Westbrook? There’s not going to be any rim protection with those guys going 1on1 all game.


I think this is the other side of the fence, and it only works until a new Shaq comes along. Then you might have 5 guys on a team who can shoot and pass and defend a bit (or more), but they'll be giving up 6 inches and 40 pounds in the paint, which will equal a 70+ field goal percentage, plus the fouls. No amount of 3 pointers will close that gap, especially with the little dudes fouling out.
Hopefully - as I really don't like the 3 point contests disguised as basketball games.


It is not as simple as "be big, score in the paint", or Boban would be turning the NBA upside down. 3s rule + offensive foul-calling really creates difficulty for establishing position in the paint and/or getting the ball to the big-man inside. What happens now is, as soon as the big guy receives the ball in the paint, he is flooded with defenders as soon as he puts the ball down, who slap at the ball furiously, causing either a turnover or a forced shot before he can get position or kick the ball to a free shooter. It's a very inefficient play.


Never said that it's "be big, score in the paint". Be bigger than your opponent can guard in the paint, like to play in the paint physically, know very well how to play basketball, have the desire to win more than to put up stats (through passing out if scoring doesn't work), be quicker than usual for that size. None of that really applies to anyone since Shaq I'd say. Not even Zion, as he is short, and can't really play basketball all that good yet, despite his obvious talent. And his ankles, knees and back will be shot by the time he learns.
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Post#699 » by IzzyT » Wed Feb 5, 2020 10:58 pm

In the modern game, Shaq would get obliterated trying to guard pick and roll. Look what happens to guys like Whiteside. If he dropped enough weight to get quick enough to properly help on that action, it might take away a lot of his size advantage down low. I really don’t think we will see a harkening back to the days of lumbering giants unless 3pt shots are made less advantageous somehow (line pushed further back and corner 3s eliminated, for example). They can’t keep up defensively with the PPP off drive and kick PnR threes.
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Post#700 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Feb 7, 2020 5:08 am

The rockets just not playing any bigs at all is a fascinating experiment. Hanging in with the Lakers tonight.

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