Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVIII

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We are not the destination for Andre Drummond. We can't pay him $29m next year.

Illmatic "knows" that he's going to opt out, but... what if he doesn't? Then what?

[jangles86]

Beal has agreed to sign longterm contracts here twice. He’s at least indicated an affinity for playing in DC.

Trading for Simmons means acquiring a player against his will, who has no connection to the city , and has already had issues with questionable effort and work ethic. So we’re gonna just assume this guy will play his heart out for a rebuilding team in DC? Please, let’s stop the ridiculousness

What?

When has there been questions about Ben Simmons work ethic and effort? Simmons is probably one of the top 3 defenders in the nba and is a game changer on that end. In fact, his effort defensively is actually what makes Philly a decent team. I would take that every day over Beals poor body language and sulking.

[Dark Faze]

I think as well though, being deathly afraid of the tax makes little sense. It would make sense to me as an owner to be willing to give John and Brad something of a swan song by loading up the roster so long as it isn't too damaging to the next era. We've got John and Wall locked in for two years, and then the third year is functionally a "trade by deadline if this isn't working" scenario, or even the summer beforehand.

I don't think you keep Brad if you're not willing to pay the tax or seriously work towards being a second round playoff team expectation wise. You know there had to be a lot of personal conversations between Brad and Tommy to get that deal done with much of it being about the teams direction.

The question is who is the right player worthy of going into the tax for? As well, we've got an asset in Bertans that could be used in a three team trade in order to avoid having to use our own pick to acquire said player, and we're running out of time to do that if its going to get done.

[Illmatic12]

Beal has agreed to sign longterm contracts here twice. He’s at least indicated an affinity for playing in DC.

Trading for Simmons means acquiring a player against his will, who has no connection to the city , and has already had issues with questionable effort and work ethic. So we’re gonna just assume this guy will play his heart out for a rebuilding team in DC? Please, let’s stop the ridiculousness

What?

When has there been questions about Ben Simmons work ethic and effort? Simmons is probably one of the top 3 defenders in the nba and is a game changer on that end. In fact, his effort defensively is actually what makes Philly a decent team. I would take that every day over Beals poor body language and sulking.

The same questions that have existed since he was a draft prospect? His own teammates in Australia said he was a douchebag this isn’t new

5. The concerns about Simmons' character didn't magically appear the moment he arrived on campus in Baton Rouge. Those sentiments also have been expressed by members of the Australian national team who have spent time with him at the junior and senior levels. Australian players and coaches who have been around him don't speak about him in flattering terms, calling him “the Yank” to highlight how different he is compared with most of the players from that country, and perhaps highlight how much moving to the United States at a young age and immersing himself in the AAU world has shaped him. Those who know him best say he needs things to revolve around him on and off the court and that he's often been close-minded to coaching or instruction. Can all this be blamed on LSU? Check out the “mentality” section of Simmons' “weaknesses” breakdown in a video Mike Schmitz created prior to this season. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ben-Simmons-61928/ ©DraftExpress

My guy, Simmons said himself that he struggled with staying in love with the game of basketball..why is a 23 year old already saying this

https://www.slamonline.com/nba/ben-simmons-this-summer-i-fell-in-love-with-the-game-again/



So what are you telling me right now.. you trust him to be the leader/franchise player of a successful rebuild on a team he doesn’t want to play for ? Lol. Enough of this

[Ruzious]

I think as well though, being deathly afraid of the tax makes little sense. It would make sense to me as an owner to be willing to give John and Brad something of a swan song by loading up the roster so long as it isn't too damaging to the next era. We've got John and Wall locked in for two years, and then the third year is functionally a "trade by deadline if this isn't working" scenario, or even the summer beforehand.

I don't think you keep Brad if you're not willing to pay the tax or seriously work towards being a second round playoff team expectation wise. You know there had to be a lot of personal conversations between Brad and Tommy to get that deal done with much of it being about the teams direction.

The question is who is the right player worthy of going into the tax for? As well, we've got an asset in Bertans that could be used in a three team trade in order to avoid having to use our own pick to acquire said player, and we're running out of time to do that if its going to get done.

It's being in the tax for multiple years that's the potential problem - because of the repeater tax. The repeater tax is absurdly punitive, and if you're not legitimately going for the world championship, it's foolish to risk getting your team stuck in it.

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[Ruzious]

Beal has agreed to sign longterm contracts here twice. He’s at least indicated an affinity for playing in DC.

Trading for Simmons means acquiring a player against his will, who has no connection to the city , and has already had issues with questionable effort and work ethic. So we’re gonna just assume this guy will play his heart out for a rebuilding team in DC? Please, let’s stop the ridiculousness

What?

When has there been questions about Ben Simmons work ethic and effort? Simmons is probably one of the top 3 defenders in the nba and is a game changer on that end. In fact, his effort defensively is actually what makes Philly a decent team. I would take that every day over Beals poor body language and sulking.

The same questions that have existed since he was a draft prospect? His own teammates in Australia said he was a douchebag this isn’t new

5. The concerns about Simmons' character didn't magically appear the moment he arrived on campus in Baton Rouge. Those sentiments also have been expressed by members of the Australian national team who have spent time with him at the junior and senior levels. Australian players and coaches who have been around him don't speak about him in flattering terms, calling him “the Yank” to highlight how different he is compared with most of the players from that country, and perhaps highlight how much moving to the United States at a young age and immersing himself in the AAU world has shaped him. Those who know him best say he needs things to revolve around him on and off the court and that he's often been close-minded to coaching or instruction. Can all this be blamed on LSU? Check out the “mentality” section of Simmons' “weaknesses” breakdown in a video Mike Schmitz created prior to this season. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ben-Simmons-61928/ ©DraftExpress

My guy, Simmons said himself that he struggled with staying in love with the game of basketball..why is a 23 year old already saying this

https://www.slamonline.com/nba/ben-simmons-this-summer-i-fell-in-love-with-the-game-again/



So what are you telling me right now.. you trust him to be the leader/franchise player of a successful rebuild on a team he doesn’t want to play for ? Lol. Enough of this

The article you linked was very positive about him - with him saying he fell in love with basketball. He matured in his early 20's - how shocking. He's probably going to make the first team All-Defensive team. How could he do that with a bad attitude?

[ThatBoyNick]

I've seen a rumor that Hou could be interested in Thomas Bryant, how is his defense? I see Wiz have been rumored to be looking for another big.

Hou has its 2022 1st available for trade, 2nds, House, Hartenstein, and the ability to completely absorb Bryant's contract (cap relief/8mill TPE)into the 4 team deal as assets.

[gambitx777]

I'm calling it Ian and 3 mill in cash for TT and the 2022 wiz second they own. Saved them 6 mill and we don't give up a Thing. Then we trade IT and McRae for O'Quinn and Burke (both cut maybe to a third team ) and that phantom OKC first that turns into a 22 and 23 second round pick. Then after we cut this guy's we help the Lakers make a move with out trade exception by taking on a small contract or two. And hopefully we come in just under the tax

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[SUPERBALLMAN]

I've seen a rumor that Hou could be interested in Thomas Bryant, how is his defense? I see Wiz have been rumored to be looking for another big.

Hou has its 2022 1st available for trade, 2nds, House, Hartenstein, and the ability to completely absorb Bryant's contract (cap relief/8mill TPE)into the 4 team deal as assets.

His D is not good, but Wizards don't want to trade him.

22 yr old athletic big man, avg 13 & 7 in 25 mpg + 34% on 3pt... Plus he's got a great attitude, brings high effort, energy & enthusiasm. Just signed him to an extension this past offseason.

Not interested.

[ThatBoyNick]

I've seen a rumor that Hou could be interested in Thomas Bryant, how is his defense? I see Wiz have been rumored to be looking for another big.

Hou has its 2022 1st available for trade, 2nds, House, Hartenstein, and the ability to completely absorb Bryant's contract (cap relief/8mill TPE)into the 4 team deal as assets.

His D is not good, but Wizards don't want to trade him.

22 yr old athletic big man, avg 13 & 7 in 25 mpg + 34% on 3pt... Plus he's a great attitude, high effort energy& enthusiasm. Just signed him to an extension this past offseason.

What makes him bad on D? considering he has decent tools (length, athleticism).

[SUPERBALLMAN]

I've seen a rumor that Hou could be interested in Thomas Bryant, how is his defense? I see Wiz have been rumored to be looking for another big.

Hou has its 2022 1st available for trade, 2nds, House, Hartenstein, and the ability to completely absorb Bryant's contract (cap relief/8mill TPE)into the 4 team deal as assets.

His D is not good, but Wizards don't want to trade him.

22 yr old athletic big man, avg 13 & 7 in 25 mpg + 34% on 3pt... Plus he's a great attitude, high effort energy& enthusiasm. Just signed him to an extension this past offseason.

What makes him bad on D? considering he has decent tools (length, athleticism).

Maybe you'd be interested in Mahinmi ??

[ThatBoyNick]

Maybe you'd be interested in Mahinmi ??

No lol.

I read a rumor about Hou/Was talking about Bryant. Hou can take back up to 12 mill in salary from the 4 team Capela/Covington deal. Rockets moved Clint because we needed to space the floor due to WB's poor shooting.

This is where the Bryant rumor comes in, he's a C who's got length, is solid on the boards and can shoot the 3 a little bit.

[youngWizzy]

Maybe you'd be interested in Mahinmi ??

No lol.

I read a rumor about Hou/Was talking about Bryant. Hou can take back up to 12 mill in salary from the 4 team Capela/Covington deal. Rockets moved Clint because we needed to space the floor due to WB's poor shooting.

This is where the Bryant rumor comes in, he's a C who's got length, is solid on the boards and can shoot the 3 a little bit.

Where'd you hear this? Is there a source?

[Ruzious]

I've seen a rumor that Hou could be interested in Thomas Bryant, how is his defense? I see Wiz have been rumored to be looking for another big.

Hou has its 2022 1st available for trade, 2nds, House, Hartenstein, and the ability to completely absorb Bryant's contract (cap relief/8mill TPE)into the 4 team deal as assets.

His D is not good, but Wizards don't want to trade him.

22 yr old athletic big man, avg 13 & 7 in 25 mpg + 34% on 3pt... Plus he's a great attitude, high effort energy& enthusiasm. Just signed him to an extension this past offseason.

What makes him bad on D? considering he has decent tools (length, athleticism).

Really bad footwork on the interior - and has a lot of trouble with switches - a poor pnr defender. He has trouble reacting to quick first steps. I still think he has the tools to become an average defender, but he's not there yet. He does have the length you want as a rim protector but not the feet.

[Ruzious]

Maybe you'd be interested in Mahinmi ??

No lol.

I read a rumor about Hou/Was talking about Bryant. Hou can take back up to 12 mill in salary from the 4 team Capela/Covington deal. Rockets moved Clint because we needed to space the floor due to WB's poor shooting.

This is where the Bryant rumor comes in, he's a C who's got length, is solid on the boards and can shoot the 3 a little bit.

Nah, the only rumor I've heard is the Rockets are trying to trade for a center from an Eastern Conference team. Bryant hasn't been mentioned by any reliable source that I've seen.

[ThatBoyNick]

Maybe you'd be interested in Mahinmi ??

No lol.

I read a rumor about Hou/Was talking about Bryant. Hou can take back up to 12 mill in salary from the 4 team Capela/Covington deal. Rockets moved Clint because we needed to space the floor due to WB's poor shooting.

This is where the Bryant rumor comes in, he's a C who's got length, is solid on the boards and can shoot the 3 a little bit.

Where'd you hear this? Is there a source?

An insider on a Hawks forum. Rumor, not a report.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Maybe you'd be interested in Mahinmi ??

No lol.

I read a rumor about Hou/Was talking about Bryant. Hou can take back up to 12 mill in salary from the 4 team Capela/Covington deal. Rockets moved Clint because we needed to space the floor due to WB's poor shooting.

This is where the Bryant rumor comes in, he's a C who's got length, is solid on the boards and can shoot the 3 a little bit.

Hey Mahinmi can shoot the 3 a little bit. He's a much better defender than Bryant too!

[Dark Faze]

iggy just got 30 over 2 years from miami lol

did he just set the floor for bertans?

[SUPERBALLMAN]

iggy just got 30 over 2 years from miami lol

did he just set the floor for bertans?

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