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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1121 » by Am2626 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 8:52 pm

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What exactly is he going to address to the media? We put feelers our but felt we have the right players to turn this around. I like our core so we are standing Pat.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1122 » by MrFortune3 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 8:52 pm

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FriedRise wrote:
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Whoever it is needs to be above Paxson if he's staying around.


That’d be ideal, but honestly, if the Bulls brought in someone worth a sh*t that had to “report to Paxson” I wouldn’t be bothered as Pax has shown before that he’s more that happy to take a backseat.

The issue is, who that’s really worth bringing in, really wants to report to Paxson? If the Bulls are serious about doing what needs to be done, they need to sanitize the FO. Just clean it out. Tell Pax “thanks for the memories”, and move onto another chapter.


He's been the damn man at the top for 6 different head coaches, 3 or 4 rebuilds. It's time for him to go.
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Post#1123 » by Dominator83 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 8:53 pm

League Circles wrote:In fairness, this mess is pretty much exactly ehat most of you asked for when advocating the Jimmy trade. I heard many, many posters talk about how it would be expected, and fine, to spend years being bad before expecting to get a true young franchise player. Years.

I never held the expectation that after X number of years we'd be in good shape again.

Anyways, it's hard to imagine we can't get a good player for a package including some or all of these IMO disposable pieces:

Otto
Lauri
Thad
Coby
Sato
Our 2020 pick

Guys like Derozan, Chris Paul etc should be attainable rather easily IMO. Will they win us a title? Hell no. Will the guys we ship out? Hell no.

While you are correct, nobody wanted them to settle for safe, low upside picks either. Like Michael Porter Jr had his concerns for sure, but he was by far the highest upside player available at #7. And he wanted to be here badly. WCJ is solid, but low ceiling. His ceiling is maybe a poor man's Al Horford. nd even the real Al Horford in his prime, wasnt a top 2 player on a championship team type.

Then in this last draft Rui Hacimura was available. Instead they settle for low upside Coby White because they "need" a Point guard, ignoring the fact that Coby isn't even a point guard. Rui has the tools and the potential to be a poor man's Giannis in a few years. Coby's potential is, vinnie Johnson?

When you don't have superstars in place, you don't settle for low upside players when there are guys with star potential sitting there
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1124 » by TheStig » Thu Feb 6, 2020 8:53 pm

Am2626 wrote:
sco wrote:
SfBull wrote:That was a great trade for the Warriors,they got a potentially very good wing player ( yes ,I still believe he can play much better for a better coach and in a better ambient) in Wiggins and sent a player who wouldn't be starting after the return of Curry and Kley.I never believed DLo would play in San Francisco for a long time.

I feel like it is one of those "good on paper" but bad in reality trades. Wiggins is a losing player. Kudos to Minny for unwinding 2 bad contracts (Wiggins and separately Dieng).


It doesn’t matter if Wiggins has been a losing player. He is coming to a Winning Culture which is exactly what he needs to realize his full potential. With Durant gone SF is a position of need for the Warriors.

I think it was a bad deal for GS but it will work out well. If they can get Wiggins to play D and be happy as the 3rd option, then it's good. That being said, they should have gotten more for Russell and taking on a terrible deal in Wiggins. I'm also kind of surprised they punted on FA in 21.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1125 » by Threekola » Thu Feb 6, 2020 8:53 pm

Oh man, apathy is so high I didn’t realize it was deadline day. Oh well, no move probably better than a GarPax trade. Not that this in any way excuses doing nothing to improve this terrible situation. But if you’re too checked out to fire Boylen...
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Post#1126 » by MrSparkle » Thu Feb 6, 2020 8:54 pm

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Seriously?... Why?

I don't think anybody right now wants to hear his justifications.

Injuries, poor player value, young team, injuries, new system.

What else does he have in his magic hat?

Unless it's an announcement that he's stepping down. Then I'm all ears.
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Post#1127 » by panthermark » Thu Feb 6, 2020 8:57 pm

I started this back in the summer....seems like the right time to break it out.

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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1128 » by Mech Engineer » Thu Feb 6, 2020 8:57 pm

Hopefully, Paxson can give a farewell speech and move on. This is not good news because if he is talking, it means that he has prepared his list of excuses for whatever they didn't do during the trade deadline and he is sticking around.

If he was gone, there would be no comments until the allstar game was over and then he would be gone.

He is staying and will give more ridiculous excuses blaming them on that evil Thibs's coaching or Rose's ACL.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1129 » by PrimzyBulls81 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 9:07 pm

TheStig wrote:
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PrimzyBulls81 wrote:Why Pistons just basically handed out Drummond for nothing?? But I kinda doubt Drummond will resign with Cavs anyway,could be just rental.



BecAuse he was walking for noting anyway. Cavs might sign him who else is going to pay him?

Pistons are tanking. Just not sure why a better team didn't take Drummond or the Hawks.

Why? Hawks just picked up Capela and Dedmon.
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Post#1130 » by League Circles » Thu Feb 6, 2020 9:07 pm

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League Circles wrote:In fairness, this mess is pretty much exactly ehat most of you asked for when advocating the Jimmy trade. I heard many, many posters talk about how it would be expected, and fine, to spend years being bad before expecting to get a true young franchise player. Years.

I never held the expectation that after X number of years we'd be in good shape again.

Anyways, it's hard to imagine we can't get a good player for a package including some or all of these IMO disposable pieces:

Otto
Lauri
Thad
Coby
Sato
Our 2020 pick

Guys like Derozan, Chris Paul etc should be attainable rather easily IMO. Will they win us a title? Hell no. Will the guys we ship out? Hell no.

While you are correct, nobody wanted them to settle for safe, low upside picks either. Like Michael Porter Jr had his concerns for sure, but he was by far the highest upside player available at #7. And he wanted to be here badly. WCJ is solid, but low ceiling. His ceiling is maybe a poor man's Al Horford. nd even the real Al Horford in his prime, wasnt a top 2 player on a championship team type.

Then in this last draft Rui Hacimura was available. Instead they settle for low upside Coby White because they "need" a Point guard, ignoring the fact that Coby isn't even a point guard. Rui has the tools and the potential to be a poor man's Giannis in a few years. Coby's potential is, vinnie Johnson?

When you don't have superstars in place, you don't settle for low upside players when there are guys with star potential sitting there

I disagree. I think the Bulls have drafted fine generally. Their problem is that they haven't had high picks and they've been as uncreative and scared as humanly possible in trade scenarios.

Carter, for example, was a quality pick that I highly advocated. I think he's already on a path to be as good as Horford. Lauri was a fine pick too. Coby is a total unknown but I disagree that he was selected for need. It was a bad draft class IMO.

It's just that #7 picks usually aren't that good frankly. We could have made some moves to tank better and get higher picks but we wanted to try to audition role player prospects instead SMH.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1131 » by The Explorer » Thu Feb 6, 2020 9:09 pm

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What exactly is he going to address to the media? We put feelers our but felt we have the right players to turn this around. I like our core so we are standing Pat.


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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1132 » by League Circles » Thu Feb 6, 2020 9:12 pm

Come on guys, we just lost our franchise player and MVP winner to a serious injury.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1133 » by Evil_Headband » Thu Feb 6, 2020 9:27 pm

What do you think Paxson will say?
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1134 » by AKfanatic » Thu Feb 6, 2020 9:30 pm

Evil_Headband wrote:What do you think Paxson will say?


Tough year - injuries
Seeing growth
Disappointed, but like where we are moving forward
Didn’t want to make a trade, just to make a trade
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1135 » by Evil_Headband » Thu Feb 6, 2020 9:30 pm

I'll bet he'll mention how he likes the young core and how Boylen is on the same page as the management team.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1136 » by samwana » Thu Feb 6, 2020 9:30 pm

I hope our players request to be traded and remain injured, all of them. I'd support a complete mutiny. Every. Single. One. Of. Them!

Like how Boylens college team quit on him and transferred out.



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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1137 » by TheStig » Thu Feb 6, 2020 9:33 pm

PrimzyBulls81 wrote:
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BecAuse he was walking for noting anyway. Cavs might sign him who else is going to pay him?

Pistons are tanking. Just not sure why a better team didn't take Drummond or the Hawks.

Why? Hawks just picked up Capela and Dedmon.

Completely spaced on them getting Capela yesterday.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1138 » by GameBredAPBT » Thu Feb 6, 2020 9:36 pm

I think he might announce either his resignation or Boylans termination
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1139 » by GameBredAPBT » Thu Feb 6, 2020 9:50 pm

I think Markkanen’s people & possibly LaVine’s (maybe even a few other players) have given the Reinsdorfs some ultimatums. It seems like the end may be in sight, guys. Let’s keep our fingers crossed.

Either way, I feel some huge changes coming, especially after this report about Markkanen, who they still seem really high on/intent on keeping happy.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1140 » by Lotty8989 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 9:55 pm

HomoSapien wrote:
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You sit back and watch half the team get injured and do nothing about it you have a coach who can't coach a jv team, you allow him to play a injured player IN BLOWOUT MINUTES of a game andthe deadline just passed with you doing nothing to improvethisteam.....what could you possibly have to say pax like seriously we've lost hope in you leading this team to a championship level

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