2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread

[bondom34]

The 76ers at the apex of their rebuild to win a championship have the same record as the rebuilding Thunder while playing in an awful conference.

It's lookin real nice for those Sixers!

I feel like you missed that the Sixers best two players are young, and they've got a more promising rookie than OKC does. The Thunder's best two players are over 30, and the Sixers have been further in the last two years than OKC.

Philly also only rebuilt like 4 years.

I feel like you missed that the Simmons + Embiid tandem isn't working and Simmons is a very blah player, especially come playoff time.

Thybulle is not anything special, at all. 3nD wing who isn't great at 3'ing (time will tell, I wanted OKC to get him before the roster blow-up happened)

There's more than one way to rebuild a team to compete and full on tanking is not a good option.
Also, trading a player just to trade him for absolutely-f*cking-nothing is not a good move. But apparently you are absolutely irate because the Thunder didn't just throw players away for whatever someone was willing to send.

I don't think you've paid attention to the Sixers given none of this is true.

Embiid and Simmons lineups have been a ....*checks notes* +9.84 net rating over the last 2 plus seasons. That would be an incredible season mark, and Simmons is a borderline all NBA talent.

Thybulle has been one of few rookies to contribute on a winning team this year, so the second is false.

And yes, there's more than one way to rebuild But they all require young players. Something OKC currently lacks, this isn't a rebuild right now and looks like by the time it is Shai will be up for a new contract.

[Thunder Up]

I feel like you missed that the Sixers best two players are young, and they've got a more promising rookie than OKC does. The Thunder's best two players are over 30, and the Sixers have been further in the last two years than OKC.

Philly also only rebuilt like 4 years.

I feel like you missed that the Simmons + Embiid tandem isn't working and Simmons is a very blah player, especially come playoff time.

Thybulle is not anything special, at all. 3nD wing who isn't great at 3'ing (time will tell, I wanted OKC to get him before the roster blow-up happened)

There's more than one way to rebuild a team to compete and full on tanking is not a good option.
Also, trading a player just to trade him for absolutely-f*cking-nothing is not a good move. But apparently you are absolutely irate because the Thunder didn't just throw players away for whatever someone was willing to send.

I don't think you've paid attention to the Sixers given none of this is true.

Embiid and Simmons lineups have been a ....*checks notes* +9.84 net rating over the last 2 plus seasons. That would be an incredible season mark, and Simmons is a borderline all NBA talent.

Thybulle has been one of few rookies to contribute on a winning team this year, so the second is false.

And yes, there's more than one way to rebuild But they all require young players. Something OKC currently lacks, this isn't a rebuild right now and looks like by the time it is Shai will be up for a new contract.

Simmons is not a borderline all NBA talent lmfaoooo just like Gobert is not a top 10 player in the NBA.

Thybulle has played minutes, so by default he's contributed.

Go ahead and watch what happens when playoff Simmons does nothing to help put his team over top in the playoffs again as he continues to get that Spurs vs LeBron treatment and has no counters to it.

Their best chance was last year when they had Jimmy.... especially since they blew a load on mediocre Tobias Harris

[Dadouv47]

There were reports the last few days and weeks of Knicks and Lakers being interested in schroder. Miami, Phx, Mavs and Portland interested in Gallo and Hawks interested in Adams. Like I said, it’s not too late but if we start the season with these guys on the roster then it’s unlikely we will get as much of a return at that time as we could have today.

The Lakers were not willing to give up Kuzma for Morris, so clearly not trading Kuzma for Schroeder either.

The only player that I suspect Presti was asking too much for is Adams, but Drummond was traded for a 2nd and the Cavs couldn't trade TT.

My point is that we know teams called on our players. There were likely calls that weren’t reported. This team still would have made the playoffs without Gallo. I guess I want to know when Sam is really going to commit to the rebuild. It needs to happen no later than this summer.

Definitely agree on this. I think we only need 2 or 3 years of high draft picks (if we are doing an average/good job at drafting) considering how many draft picks we could trade to improve our roster.

Gallo is probably gone this offseason so starting Bazley at the 4 will help the rebuild

Then we need to trade at least one of Adams/Schroeder/CP3 before the season begins (and one more at the trade deadline would be ideal).

[ThunderBolt]

Trading Gallo for value isn’t tanking. This team has won without him.

[bondom34]

I feel like you missed that the Simmons + Embiid tandem isn't working and Simmons is a very blah player, especially come playoff time.

Thybulle is not anything special, at all. 3nD wing who isn't great at 3'ing (time will tell, I wanted OKC to get him before the roster blow-up happened)

There's more than one way to rebuild a team to compete and full on tanking is not a good option.
Also, trading a player just to trade him for absolutely-f*cking-nothing is not a good move. But apparently you are absolutely irate because the Thunder didn't just throw players away for whatever someone was willing to send.

I don't think you've paid attention to the Sixers given none of this is true.

Embiid and Simmons lineups have been a ....*checks notes* +9.84 net rating over the last 2 plus seasons. That would be an incredible season mark, and Simmons is a borderline all NBA talent.

Thybulle has been one of few rookies to contribute on a winning team this year, so the second is false.

And yes, there's more than one way to rebuild But they all require young players. Something OKC currently lacks, this isn't a rebuild right now and looks like by the time it is Shai will be up for a new contract.

Simmons is not a borderline all NBA talent lmfaoooo just like Gobert is not a top 10 player in the NBA.

Thybulle has played minutes, so by default he's contributed.

Go ahead and watch what happens when playoff Simmons does nothing to help put his team over top in the playoffs again as he continues to get that Spurs vs LeBron treatment and has no counters to it.

Their best chance was last year when they had Jimmy.... especially since they blew a load on mediocre Tobias Harris

https://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/46/2019/06/2018-19-All-NBA-Team-Voting-Results.pdf

Last year he was literally the 3rd guard out of all-NBA.

And was excellent last playoffs.

And the Sixers are a team I follow, I live nearby and covered a game this year, he's absolutely a contributor.

Trading Gallo for value isn’t tanking. This team has won without him.

And this. It's not tanking.

[Thunder Up]

Trading Gallo for value isn’t tanking. This team has won without him.

I agree, but clearly value was not offered for Gallo along with the extension he was searching for (reportedly) or the Thunder would have taken it.

[slick_watts]

Trading Gallo for value isn’t tanking. This team has won without him.

I agree, but clearly value was not offered for Gallo along with the extension he was searching for (reportedly) or the Thunder would have taken it.

this isn't clear at all. miami wanted to extend gallinari. they did not want to give up the compensation necessary to acquire him if he was merely a rental. amick reported in the athletic that gallinari enjoys playing for the thunder and that may have played a role in his relatively stout extension demands.

we don't know what else was on the table for gallinari.

we do know that we are past the deadline and all our vets are here and gallinari is heading for UFA where he can leave for little to no return. that's not an optimal situation.

[getrichordie]

Trading Gallo for value isn’t tanking. This team has won without him.

I agree, but clearly value was not offered for Gallo along with the extension he was searching for (reportedly) or the Thunder would have taken it.

this isn't clear at all. miami wanted to extend gallinari. they did not want to give up the compensation necessary to acquire him if he was merely a rental. amick reported in the athletic that gallinari enjoys playing for the thunder and that may have played a role in his relatively stout extension demands.

we don't know what else was on the table for gallinari.

we do know that we are past the deadline and all our vets are here and gallinari is heading for UFA where he can leave for little to no return. that's not an optimal situation.

It sounds like Presti is content with letting Gallinari's $22.62M fall of the books w/ the potential of orchestrating a S&T in the offseason if value is right but it honestly sounds like we are hoping to re-sign Gallinari to the 3-year deal he's looking for. It honestly sounds better than anything MIA was wanting to offer unless Herro or Robinson + filler was on the table.

[ThunderBolt]

I agree, but clearly value was not offered for Gallo along with the extension he was searching for (reportedly) or the Thunder would have taken it.

this isn't clear at all. miami wanted to extend gallinari. they did not want to give up the compensation necessary to acquire him if he was merely a rental. amick reported in the athletic that gallinari enjoys playing for the thunder and that may have played a role in his relatively stout extension demands.

we don't know what else was on the table for gallinari.

we do know that we are past the deadline and all our vets are here and gallinari is heading for UFA where he can leave for little to no return. that's not an optimal situation.

It sounds like Presti is content with letting Gallinari's $22.62M fall of the books w/ the potential of orchestrating a S&T in the offseason if value is right but it honestly sounds like we are hoping to re-sign Gallinari to the 3-year deal he's looking for. It honestly sounds better than anything MIA was wanting to offer unless Herro or Robinson + filler was on the table.

Where are you getting this from?

[Dadouv47]

A lot of things can happen on draft night and free agency. We will see. If a team like Philly is underperforming in the playoffs, they could accept a Gallo Sign & Trade.
Maybe Presti made some mistakes but things were not aligned to get a lot of value for players at this trade deadline. Pretenders/Contenders barely had cap space to move and weren't willing to give up a lot of value (somehow we got a FRP for Grant in the offseason but weren't able to find one for Gallo now).

[Dadouv47]

DIon Waiters on the buy out market if we want to for the championship!

CP3 fighting with Dion would be fun to watch

[Thunder Up]

I don't think you've paid attention to the Sixers given none of this is true.

Embiid and Simmons lineups have been a ....*checks notes* +9.84 net rating over the last 2 plus seasons. That would be an incredible season mark, and Simmons is a borderline all NBA talent.

Thybulle has been one of few rookies to contribute on a winning team this year, so the second is false.

And yes, there's more than one way to rebuild But they all require young players. Something OKC currently lacks, this isn't a rebuild right now and looks like by the time it is Shai will be up for a new contract.

Simmons is not a borderline all NBA talent lmfaoooo just like Gobert is not a top 10 player in the NBA.

Thybulle has played minutes, so by default he's contributed.

Go ahead and watch what happens when playoff Simmons does nothing to help put his team over top in the playoffs again as he continues to get that Spurs vs LeBron treatment and has no counters to it.

Their best chance was last year when they had Jimmy.... especially since they blew a load on mediocre Tobias Harris

https://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/46/2019/06/2018-19-All-NBA-Team-Voting-Results.pdf

Last year he was literally the 3rd guard out of all-NBA.

And was excellent last playoffs.

And the Sixers are a team I follow, I live nearby and covered a game this year, he's absolutely a contributor.

Trading Gallo for value isn’t tanking. This team has won without him.

And this. It's not tanking.

He was literally the reason they struggled with the Raptors due to his lack of aggression on the offensive end of the floor, but okay 14-7-6 while padding stats vs the bad Nets is excellent

[spearsy23]

Why has this thread become a pissing match with the 76ers?

[thor19]

can we get the Disabled Player Exception for roberson and get someone from the buyout market?

[slick_watts]

can we get the Disabled Player Exception for roberson and get someone from the buyout market?

no, the deadline was in january.

[Pillendreher]

do explain

Delaying a rebuild and having 1 useful young player on your team while winning on the back of vets and keeping them to chase a first round exit after just committing to a rebuild is inexcusable. There's at most 2 players on this roster who will be on it the next time the team is relevant and maybe 1 has been integral this season. They stayed over the tax and managed to not get an asset for a guy who can leave and will keep winning for another quick out after trying to start to rebuild.

I haven't been this mad at a move or lack thereof in a while.

You live in a la la land where the Thunder got deals that made sense to make a move on and just said ehhh **** it no thanks

Nice, I hadn't thought about this sort of defense in a long time. It's not that Sam Presti never does anything useful around the trade deadline (apart from the 2017 deal, but well, we got the Jerami Grant show with Taj Gibson riding the bench in the 4th quarter vs Houston in the postseason, so it was a wash at best). No, it's not his fault. It's just that there wasn't a single deal.

Yawn.

[spearsy23]

Delaying a rebuild and having 1 useful young player on your team while winning on the back of vets and keeping them to chase a first round exit after just committing to a rebuild is inexcusable. There's at most 2 players on this roster who will be on it the next time the team is relevant and maybe 1 has been integral this season. They stayed over the tax and managed to not get an asset for a guy who can leave and will keep winning for another quick out after trying to start to rebuild.

I haven't been this mad at a move or lack thereof in a while.

You live in a la la land where the Thunder got deals that made sense to make a move on and just said ehhh **** it no thanks

Literally anything makes sense.

Chasing a 7 seed does not.

This isn't consistent with your past stance

[Old Man Game]

There's a sort of countervailing consideration that I don't feel we've really mentioned yet. Right now Chris Paul has been a really good dude in town. But I wonder how much of that is hinging upon having a halfway decent team around him. I don't know if you just shredded this team down to the studs if he would be quite the same dude. I could be wrong. Just a thought.

And the thing is we're basically stuck with Chris Paul this season possibly next season and the next. So maybe there's some value not having a malcontinent Chris Paul around.

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[ThunderBolt]

There's a sort of countervailing consideration that I don't feel we've really mentioned yet. Right now Chris Paul has been a really good dude in town. But I wonder how much of that is hinging upon having a halfway decent team around him. I don't know if you just shredded this team down to the studs if he would be quite the same dude. I could be wrong. Just a thought.

and the thing is we're basically stuck with Chris Paul this season possibly next season and the next. So maybe there's some value not having a malcontinent Chris Paul around.

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I’ve thought about that too. Another reason I think every asset matters is because even if he plays well the rest of the year, it still might take a couple of picks to move him. That’s why I’m not against getting more picks for Gallo and Dennis despite our war chest.

[Pillendreher]

There's a sort of countervailing consideration that I don't feel we've really mentioned yet. Right now Chris Paul has been a really good dude in town. But I wonder how much of that is hinging upon having a halfway decent team around him. I don't know if you just shredded this team down to the studs if he would be quite the same dude. I could be wrong. Just a thought.

And the thing is we're basically stuck with Chris Paul this season possibly next season and the next. So maybe there's some value not having a malcontinent Chris Paul around.

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Fair enough. Yet on the other hand: I don't think this franchise can afford to basically waste three full seasons just because of a single player. You can't rebuild with just one promising young player and being stuck in no man's land team wise.