Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins

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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#481 » by ILOVEIT » Fri Feb 7, 2020 1:43 am

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Myers didn't do anything, it's been all West

tell me what good move has he made for the Warriors since West left? just one.


Ya I used to think Myers got a bad rap but some GS fans, but ya I can't overlook it anymore. The dude is looking flat out horrible.

Just look at the difference between what Memphis has been doing with its assets vs how GS has handled theirs. It's embarrassing. I can't believe how badly all of this was handled.


What exactly was handled badly??? You guys got KD due to a cap spike, won 2 Chips, then KD was leaving regardless. They ended up getting Dlo for a disgruntled FA, they had to extract some kind of value from KD because y'all were over the cap neway with no real way of improving the team. So they got Dlo and sent out a 1st and Iggy to have the space regardless. They then sent out Dlo for a 1st and Wiggins. For a team that was put in a corner, they ended up with a former number 1 pick who's a 20pt scorer and a future 1st.

GS Out
KD - was leaving as a FA regardless, SnT are rare now-a-days too
Iggy - Was old and not worth his salary, shell of his former self
2024 1st

GS In
Wiggins 2021 1st

What alternatives would've made y'all happy??


Thanks...welcome post. I have to laugh at ANYONE saying ANY crap about Myers and the Warriors ownership after the 5 championship final runs...

Traded Monta for Bogurt ...ballsy move to get away from the two small guard lineup.
Acquired Iggy..in his PRIME...for cash lol
Landed Durant in Free Agency
3 of 5 chips...should have been 4 of 5 if not for catastrophic injuries to KD and Klay.

Myers is in the top 3 GM's in the league.
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#482 » by DonDoolie » Fri Feb 7, 2020 1:48 am

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DonDoolie wrote:Warriors stay laughing. People are going to cry next year when they have curry Thompson wiggins green looney paschall + draft picks. Minnesota is still a lottery team they will still be in the lottery next year as well that pick will be juicy for the warriors

Legit made no sense for them to hold onto DLO especially if they could fill a position of need. Flipping a walking KD into a solid wing and draft compensation is a huge win


There's no guarantee that Wolves will be bad next year.

Starters: DLo, Culver, Layman, PF, Towns
Bench: PG, Beasley, Okogie, JJ, Juancho

They have about $22m in capspace in the offseason for a starting PF and not much competition (Millsap, Favors, Ibaka, Gallo)

Then for backup PG they have a $5m MLE, a top 10 draft pick 2020 and pick 15-18 2020 from nets.


I’m going to put my money on the safer bet and that’s Minnesota being terrible again. DLO is a good player but not enough to move the needle especially in the west. Minnesota has no track record of landing big free agents in the offseason and it’s going to take more than one year to steer that dumpster in the right direction.
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#483 » by og15 » Fri Feb 7, 2020 1:49 am

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tundraknight wrote::evil: I think Wiggins can have a similar impact with the Warriors that Harrison Barnes did.



16 finals Barnes with way way worse defense sure.


Not really. How great is Barnes now that he's not on Warriors? How's his defense. His lateral movement was always slow.

Wiggins is a huge upgrade over HB (and I used to have a man crush on HB lol).

It's in fashion to knock Wiggins as some kind of flop. You can't call a guy that averages 22 a night on an otherwise crappy team a bust.

He's going to be great...and I think the Warriors are going to have a 65 win year next year.

Being a bust is relative to expectations as well as draft position, there's no ppg threshold that makes a player not a bust. Wiggins is certainly a bust for a #1 pick with superstar expectations, doesn't mean some team can't find a role for him that makes him most effective as possible, but we'll see.
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#484 » by clyde21 » Fri Feb 7, 2020 1:58 am

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Iggy and a 2024 1st for Wiggy and a 2021 1st / How is that not extracting good value, I'm not madd at that. Why would anyone be, iggy is 35yrs old


okay that 2024 first is completely unprotected, and Iggy is still a + asset, Memphis just turned him into Winslow, so not only did he give Iggy away in a salary dumb to overpay DLo, he gave away that future first to do it

and Wiggins is a complete net negative player, Minny probably needed to include a 1st just to get out of his contract, let alone trade him and a 1st for DLo.

so no, this is not extracting good value AT ALL.


You're aware the alternative was losing Durant for nothing. I'd say a lottery pick from the Twolves in 2021 beats having nothing.


Yes...why is that a bad thing? cut your losses, I don't want bad contract Wiggins just so "i don't lose Durant for nothing".
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#485 » by rtiff68 » Fri Feb 7, 2020 2:13 am

clyde21 wrote:
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clyde21 wrote:
okay that 2024 first is completely unprotected, and Iggy is still a + asset, Memphis just turned him into Winslow, so not only did he give Iggy away in a salary dumb to overpay DLo, he gave away that future first to do it

and Wiggins is a complete net negative player, Minny probably needed to include a 1st just to get out of his contract, let alone trade him and a 1st for DLo.

so no, this is not extracting good value AT ALL.


You're aware the alternative was losing Durant for nothing. I'd say a lottery pick from the Twolves in 2021 beats having nothing.


Yes...why is that a bad thing? cut your losses, I don't want bad contract Wiggins just so "i don't lose Durant for nothing".


Unless you’re footing the bill for crappy Wiggins’ salary, I’m not sure why you would have this take.

Nothing for Durant vs. Wiggins’ salary and a potentially VERY valuable lottery pick? I’ll take the latter, especially because it’s not like we could spend the money on Wiggins’ salary elsewhere...
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#486 » by clyde21 » Fri Feb 7, 2020 2:16 am

rtiff68 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Soca wrote:
You're aware the alternative was losing Durant for nothing. I'd say a lottery pick from the Twolves in 2021 beats having nothing.


Yes...why is that a bad thing? cut your losses, I don't want bad contract Wiggins just so "i don't lose Durant for nothing".


Unless you’re footing the bill for crappy Wiggins’ salary, I’m not sure why you would have this take.

Nothing for Durant vs. Wiggins’ salary and a potentially VERY valuable lottery pick? I’ll take the latter, especially because it’s not like we could spend the money on Wiggins’ salary elsewhere...


because it's bad contract and a negative asset on our team that's gonna make it harder for us to actually win games long term? what does this have to do with me footing the bill or not? :lol:
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#487 » by Joerezz7 » Fri Feb 7, 2020 2:24 am

Bad trade. Wiggins is trash
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#488 » by GrandTheftRondo » Fri Feb 7, 2020 2:31 am

Man the overrating of Russell on this website. He simply isn’t that good. He didn’t fit with what they’ll have next season, so smart of them to move him.

Wiggins isn’t great but he can play the 3 which they need and maybe the Warriors will improve who he is?
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#489 » by Jables » Fri Feb 7, 2020 2:33 am

msanchez2725 wrote:I feel like the best asset in this trade is that Minny 1st, so Warriors with the victory IMO. I dont think Russell had as much value across the league as people think. Warriors I'm sure were praying on the Knicks being the Knicks and giving up a boatload for him.

They'd have to give up that pick just to deal with the contract. I agree with you that Russell didn't have insane value, but you can't just ignore that contract.
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#490 » by TheDominator273 » Fri Feb 7, 2020 2:39 am

Pretty win win trade to me. Wiggins is at his best when he has spacing and can attack downhill, no better place for spacing than playing next to Steph and Klay.

For Minnesota they swap bad contract for a better fitting bad contract who is best friends with the franchise cornerstone. Trade along with the one the day before and shows that the new GM Gerssan Rosas isn't afraid to shake things up and make moves that could pay off big.
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#491 » by TMU » Fri Feb 7, 2020 2:41 am

Am I the only person who thinks that the Warriors fleeced the Wolves in this trade? Both players are incredibly overrated with similarly bad contracts, so the tipping point is that the Warriors made it out like bandits with the draft picks. GSW easily won this trade imo.
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#492 » by Dupp » Fri Feb 7, 2020 2:45 am

ILOVEIT wrote:
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tundraknight wrote::evil: I think Wiggins can have a similar impact with the Warriors that Harrison Barnes did.



16 finals Barnes with way way worse defense sure.


Not really. How great is Barnes now that he's not on Warriors? How's his defense. His lateral movement was always slow.

Wiggins is a huge upgrade over HB (and I used to have a man crush on HB lol).

It's in fashion to knock Wiggins as some kind of flop. You can't call a guy that averages 22 a night on an otherwise crappy team a bust.

He's going to be great...and I think the Warriors are going to have a 65 win year next year.


Wiggins is one of the worst defenders in the nba. Barnes was at least a really good post defender and decent defender.

What part of wiggins game makes up a huge upgrade over Barnes?

65 wins? Lol
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#493 » by Jakay » Fri Feb 7, 2020 3:00 am

Gooner wrote:i don't see the purpose for the Warriors.


Once Klay and Steph are back this makes A LOT more sense. Way more than DLo ever did.
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Post#494 » by cpower » Fri Feb 7, 2020 3:02 am

Jakay wrote:
Gooner wrote:i don't see the purpose for the Warriors.


Once Klay and Steph are back this makes A LOT more sense. Way more than DLo ever did.

we will sign a defensive SF and bring Wiggins from the bench.
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#495 » by GrandTheftRondo » Fri Feb 7, 2020 3:02 am

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Should of done that with Russell then who is a better player


Has Russel ever played on any team that has won anything? Even a team that's won 30 games? There's a bit of emptiness to that as well.

Yeah it’s hilarious all these people thinking Russell is some sort of superstar that teams would be dying to have. It simply isn’t true.

He’s an inefficient scorer who puts up a lot of shots and is awful defensively.

Obviously a lot of highlight watchers on this website.
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#496 » by VancouverRaps » Fri Feb 7, 2020 3:04 am

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Police Chief Wiggins >>> Andrew Wiggins

Put some respek on his name











It’s chief Wiggum!
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#497 » by xdrta+ » Fri Feb 7, 2020 3:05 am

cpower wrote:
Jakay wrote:
Gooner wrote:i don't see the purpose for the Warriors.


Once Klay and Steph are back this makes A LOT more sense. Way more than DLo ever did.

we will sign a defensive SF and bring Wiggins from the bench.


Not a chance. He's the starter no matter how you feel about it. He'll be a good one too.
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#498 » by cpower » Fri Feb 7, 2020 3:06 am

xdrta+ wrote:
cpower wrote:
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Once Klay and Steph are back this makes A LOT more sense. Way more than DLo ever did.

we will sign a defensive SF and bring Wiggins from the bench.


Not a chance. He's the starter no matter how you feel about it. He'll be a good one too.

i will be waiting to see the day he proves me wrong.
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#499 » by MindState » Fri Feb 7, 2020 3:06 am

I like this trade. Wiggins will do great as a 6’8 third option. If the warriors draft wiseman at the 5 they will have the most talented starting lineup in the league.

They can flip all those picks for a bench and feature Paschall as their 6th man.

There are no more superteams in the league right now. The warriors didnt need to replace D’Lo with a superstar in order to contend. Look at the Bucks, they just surrounded Giannis with role players. Steph has already proven he can win a title being the main guy.
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#500 » by zhenyasj » Fri Feb 7, 2020 3:08 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
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Didn't Meyers help bring in iggy, Durant and a few championships or has he just gone insane now?


Myers didn't do anything, it's been all West

tell me what good move has he made for the Warriors since West left? just one.


Ya I used to think Myers got a bad rap but some GS fans, but ya I can't overlook it anymore. The dude is looking flat out horrible.

Just look at the difference between what Memphis has been doing with its assets vs how GS has handled theirs. It's embarrassing. I can't believe how badly all of this was handled.

What assets? Myers is trying to make chicken soup with chicken ***. He's trying to create assets out of nothing. Whether he succeeds or fails, we'll see, but at least he's trying rather than running it back with the team with 0 depth and only 2 scorers.

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