Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins

[MindState]

People really hate Wiggins for some reason. Hes the Warriors 4th best player. Name one other team whos 4th best player is as good as Wiggins.

Ill wait.

It's not just who the best 4th player is (Im sure there are teams that can beat that) but how much money you are commiting to him because that will take money from helping from every other rotation player.

Warriors will still have a top 5 pick plus money/picks on the table to solidify their bench even with Wiggins, so I dont see the issue. Warriors know what they are doing much better then random guys on the internet.

[iamworthy]

People really hate Wiggins for some reason. Hes the Warriors 4th best player. Name one other team whos 4th best player is as good as Wiggins.

Ill wait.

Well that’s hard to do considering the players that would be named are actually the first or second best players on their respective teams . You're trying to prove your point in a very strange way.

What you’re saying makes zero sense.

Someone said 6ers. Perhaps.

Name another team whose 4th best player is better than Wiggins.

Not saying there aren’t any, but how many are there?

The initial post made no sense because he’s trying to lower the standard by which Wiggins should be judged by To prove people are hating on Wiggins which in reality people are probably just disappointed in on Wiggins because he never lived up to his draft status and gets paid like he did.

[iamworthy]

People really hate Wiggins for some reason. Hes the Warriors 4th best player. Name one other team whos 4th best player is as good as Wiggins.

Ill wait.

It's not just who the best 4th player is (Im sure there are teams that can beat that) but how much money you are commiting to him because that will take money from helping from every other rotation player.

Warriors will still have a top 5 pick plus money/picks on the table to solidify their bench even with Wiggins, so I dont see the issue. Warriors know what they are doing much better then random guys on the internet.

A lot of warrior fans on realgm seem pretty disappointed by this trade.

[Quentin]

I'd be ok with Wiggins at half his salary and playing a 6th man role.

[iamworthy]

Didn't the owner of the team have a sit down with Wiggins before they gave him the max to see where his level of dedication was?

[Alatan]

I get it, Wiggins sucks, but I dont see how swapping him for D'Lo makes the warriors worse.

He will be a much better version of Harrison Barnes at worst. Which is a major addition to the warriors current lineup.

So why wasnt he a better version of Barnes when he was playing with Butler?

Because playing with Butler is not the same as playing with Curry, Draymond, Klay, and coached by Kerr?

I mean comeon now, that much is obvious.

You are right, he might be even worse.

[clyde21]

i know, that's not my point. my point is the same asset they used to get Winslow we gave THEM a future first just to take...that's Myers completely not understand the value of Iggy on the market.

Yup. He treated Iggy like he was a horrible contract that he had to tie a 1st round pick to just to unload. While in reality Iggy was clearly an asset teams were willing to giveup assets for. So the fact that Myers just handed him away for nothing and threw in a 1st is just embarrassingly dumb.

Did you really think a team with Cap Space was going to absorb the entire 17 mil left on Iguodala's deal without an asset attached? Sorry that wasn't happening for a 36 year old Iguodala.

yes, because he's still a + asset that can be flipped (as we literally just saw) for another asset.

[TheProfessor]

People really hate Wiggins for some reason. Hes the Warriors 4th best player. Name one other team whos 4th best player is as good as Wiggins.

Ill wait.

Toronto, IND, OKC, Clippers , Memphis, Miami arguably BOS, 76ers, Denver.

[Quentin]

Someone comparing Wiggins to DeRozan?

Check this stat by season over the last 6 seasons.

16 22
12 19
13 21
16 24
16 21
13 17

This is PER. I think you can figure out who is who.

[whatisacenter]

It's not just who the best 4th player is (Im sure there are teams that can beat that) but how much money you are commiting to him because that will take money from helping from every other rotation player.

Warriors will still have a top 5 pick plus money/picks on the table to solidify their bench even with Wiggins, so I dont see the issue. Warriors know what they are doing much better then random guys on the internet.

A lot of warrior fans on realgm seem pretty disappointed by this trade.

I'm happy with it. The whole reason the Warriors traded for DLo was to keep Durant's max salary on the books instead of losing him for nothing. They still have that in Wiggins and he is a better fit on this roster than Russell moving forward. Hopefully Wiggins best is yet to come playing on the Warriors but if he is who is so be it. I don't think any player is unmovable and I think keeping the max slot was worth this season being hard-capped while Klay was recovering from his ACL injury. Time will tell if this was the right move or not but with Curry and Klay's salaries being what they are I'm a supporter of keeping the additional salary space moving forward.

By the way, Clyde has a raging hate-on for Bob.

[MindState]

People really hate Wiggins for some reason. Hes the Warriors 4th best player. Name one other team whos 4th best player is as good as Wiggins.

Ill wait.

Toronto, IND, OKC, Clippers , Memphis, Miami arguably BOS, 76ers, Denver.

Please stop.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Russell statistically and skill-wise has a lot of similarities to Kemba Walker, although their frames are different and Kemba has a load more experience. They're both weak spots on defense unable to really do much other than flop and be pesky. Russell's best year statistically compares well to Kemba's best year. Both max players based on their leverage, but not comparative to their peers making the same.

[Vampirate]

IF Wiggins ups his value to the point where he's tradable, the Warriors could win. However if Wiggins doesn't, it's very possible he'll be on the Warriors through the rest of Klay and Curry's prime, still being a negative player.

Golden State took quite the gamble here.

[TheProfessor]

People really hate Wiggins for some reason. Hes the Warriors 4th best player. Name one other team whos 4th best player is as good as Wiggins.

Ill wait.

Toronto, IND, OKC, Clippers , Memphis, Miami arguably BOS, 76ers, Denver.

Please stop.

Please stop being correct because I find Inefficient chuckers who are net negatives on defense to be very dispensable players?

[ItsDanger]

I like this trade for GS a lot especially since they got a 1st. DLo is a good scorer but poor defensively. Not sure if he would mesh with Klay & Steph well. Wiggins steps into a 3rd option scorer which takes all the pressure of him. Defensively I still see him as a 2 so having Klay there helps to cover tougher 3's. I think Klay's D is really underrated. Wiggins being a slasher meshes better with them as well.

[MindState]

Toronto, IND, OKC, Clippers , Memphis, Miami arguably BOS, 76ers, Denver.

Please stop.

Please stop being correct because I find Inefficient chuckers who are net negatives on defense to be very dispensable players?

List the players.

[NyKnicks1714]

People really hate Wiggins for some reason. Hes the Warriors 4th best player. Name one other team whos 4th best player is as good as Wiggins.

Ill wait.

Name a worse player who makes as much as he does. There may be a few, but he's about as bad as it gets for a max player. I actually like this trade for Golden State, but it's because of the pick, not Wiggins' value.

[MindState]

People really hate Wiggins for some reason. Hes the Warriors 4th best player. Name one other team whos 4th best player is as good as Wiggins.

Ill wait.

Name a worse player who makes as much as he does. There may be a few, but he's about as bad as it gets for a max player. I actually like this trade for Golden State, but it's because of the pick, not Wiggins' value.

You arent looking at this correctly. The Warriors financial situation has not changed, D'Lo and Wiggins had the same exact contract. So nothing has changed pre-trade from a financial standpoint. Except Wiggins is a much better fit. So the warriors improved.

[TheProfessor]

ibaka, Brogdon, Harrell or Lou, Clarke or Brooks, Hayward arguably Duncan Robinson, Horford, Jamal Murray.

[NyKnicks1714]

People really hate Wiggins for some reason. Hes the Warriors 4th best player. Name one other team whos 4th best player is as good as Wiggins.

Ill wait.

Name a worse player who makes as much as he does. There may be a few, but he's about as bad as it gets for a max player. I actually like this trade for Golden State, but it's because of the pick, not Wiggins' value.

You arent looking at this correctly. The Warriors financial situation has not changed, D'Lo and Wiggins had the same exact contract. So nothing has changed pre-trade from a financial standpoint. Except Wiggins is a much better fit. So the warriors improved.

And my point is that Wiggins at that contract is never a good thing, even if he is your team's 4th best player. This was at best a lateral move in the short term.

By the way, 4th best players I'd rather have on a good team, even though Wiggins is more "talented":

Gordon Hayward
Whoever you consider The Clippers 4th best player to be
Brook Lopez
Malcolm Brogdon
Joe Harris or Jarret Allen
Paul Millsap or Will Barton
Lonzo Ball, JJ Reddick, or Derrick Favors
Joe Ingles

This really isn't hard, and there are no doubt more.