Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player

[YelloC]

It seems like McCaw has turned a bit of a corner lately. If he keeps playing like this defensively and limits turnovers and mistakes, he has a role with this team. He’s still too hesitant to shoot but his length helps on D when playing with 6 foot point guards.

[2019nbachamps]

McCaw scored 10 in a game we put up nearly 130 pts with our bench getting extended minutes. Lets not make it seem like he's on the verge of breaking out.

[sbsat]

I’m assuming you never ever complain or have issues with any coaching decision or player usage?

I question coaching decisions all the time.

Then it makes no sense to use "nurse knows more" as part of your argument. If you believed that then there would be no reason to question any coaching decision ever.

I pose questions to and question people who know more than me all the time.... that is the point. By virtue of questioning them ... youre seeking insight into what they see that you are not.

[SHFT]

They don't. And they admitted as much in this thread.

Their argument so far has been: "Who cares about stats and intangibles if we're winning. Trust Nurse."

https://cleaningtheglass.com/stats/team/28#tab-offensive_overview

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McCaw is bang average. He does his role well. He doesnt make many mistakes. He has a decent point production for his crazy low usage. You need guys like this.

Eventually, he will be expendable maybe as early as next year....maybe 2021 when we know what we will be done with all this cap space.

And of course, the general argument still stands. You here talking like people who are "meh" on McCaw dont know basketball but our championship head coach plays him so which one of us really dont know?

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He passes up open shots every single game. Every single game. That is not a minor mistake, but a major one. It tells opposing defenses they do not need to guard him. It tells our players passing to him is a waste of time. There was a game 2 weeks ago where Lowry spoke to McCaw during a timeout after he passed on an open shot. Its unacceptable.

As does OG at times. As did Gasol basically the entire start of the season. Doesnt make him terrible.

[HiJiNX]

My biggest issue with him lately is he gambles for steals which sometimes compromises the D. Otherwise he hasn’t been too bad since breaking his face.

[Raps in 4]

https://cleaningtheglass.com/stats/team/28#tab-offensive_overview

Edit: whoops forgot to type

McCaw is bang average. He does his role well. He doesnt make many mistakes. He has a decent point production for his crazy low usage. You need guys like this.

Eventually, he will be expendable maybe as early as next year....maybe 2021 when we know what we will be done with all this cap space.

And of course, the general argument still stands. You here talking like people who are "meh" on McCaw dont know basketball but our championship head coach plays him so which one of us really dont know?

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He passes up open shots every single game. Every single game. That is not a minor mistake, but a major one. It tells opposing defenses they do not need to guard him. It tells our players passing to him is a waste of time. There was a game 2 weeks ago where Lowry spoke to McCaw during a timeout after he passed on an open shot. Its unacceptable.

As does OG at times. As did Gasol basically the entire start of the season. Doesnt make him terrible.

Gasol and OG contribute in other ways. Gasol is an elite defender and passer. OG is one of our best wing defenders. McCaw literally does nothing.

[Raps in 4]

It is also not necessarily a McCaw or TD thing when it comes to minutes... they play a lot together.
I sort of agree as noted above they both have roles on this team. Would like one expanded, and one reduced, but they both can contribute.

What role does McCaw fill?

[Grew]

It is also not necessarily a McCaw or TD thing when it comes to minutes... they play a lot together.
I sort of agree as noted above they both have roles on this team. Would like one expanded, and one reduced, but they both can contribute.

What role does McCaw fill?

3rd string pg/sg/sf. Handles the ball, moves the ball, shoots wide open shots, defends all 3 perimeter positions. Basically a homogenous blob you can put anywhere on the perimeter who doesn't take away from your better players or make horrendous mistakes. Worst thing about him is overall passivity, and I will take that over someone like Stanley Johnson who is gonna try and do more than he's capable of and actually hurt the team.

[WaltFrazier]

10 pts, couple of 3's, solid D, moves the ball, 2 assists and a number of hockey assists. He played a nice game.

[JN]

It is also not necessarily a McCaw or TD thing when it comes to minutes... they play a lot together.
I sort of agree as noted above they both have roles on this team. Would like one expanded, and one reduced, but they both can contribute.

What role does McCaw fill?

Defensive versatility - he can guard multiple positions on the floor due to his size a bit better than the other guards.
Provides an additional ballhandler who is at least responsible with the ball

It's a role that has more value when we have injuries, but it is not a 20 minute role when a fuller team is around. Nor is it one that is needed every game. He is a decent 10-12th man... not more than that. But that is still a role and his versatility, makes him easy to plop in multiple situations. I think Nurse has found a few too many of those situations no doubt, but there are times when his defensive versatility comes in handy.

[J-Roc]

Nurse likes having a guy on the floor that will move the ball. Though it looks predictable to us, it keeps the defence moving. For Nurse it's better than a Terence Davis holding onto the ball and trying to drive into a turnover. Can't argue with the Coach of the Month.

[Raps in 4]

It is also not necessarily a McCaw or TD thing when it comes to minutes... they play a lot together.
I sort of agree as noted above they both have roles on this team. Would like one expanded, and one reduced, but they both can contribute.

What role does McCaw fill?

3rd string pg/sg/sf. Handles the ball, moves the ball, shoots wide open shots, defends all 3 perimeter positions. Basically a homogenous blob you can put anywhere on the perimeter who doesn't take away from your better players or make horrendous mistakes. Worst thing about him is overall passivity, and I will take that over someone like Stanley Johnson who is gonna try and do more than he's capable of and actually hurt the team.

He plays 25+ MPG. Those aren't 3rd string minutes.

[Dennis 37]

McCaw scored 10 in a game we put up nearly 130 pts with our bench getting extended minutes. Lets not make it seem like he's on the verge of breaking out.

It was always about confidence. It's not that he scored 10 points, it is that he shot the ball without hesitation. If he's on the floor, he has to shoot the ball without hesitation. He needs not score 10 points, but he has to play with confidence.

[Clay Davis]

What role does McCaw fill?

3rd string pg/sg/sf. Handles the ball, moves the ball, shoots wide open shots, defends all 3 perimeter positions. Basically a homogenous blob you can put anywhere on the perimeter who doesn't take away from your better players or make horrendous mistakes. Worst thing about him is overall passivity, and I will take that over someone like Stanley Johnson who is gonna try and do more than he's capable of and actually hurt the team.

He plays 25+ MPG. Those aren't 3rd string minutes.

He's a third string at all those positions

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[Dennis 37]

What role does McCaw fill?

3rd string pg/sg/sf. Handles the ball, moves the ball, shoots wide open shots, defends all 3 perimeter positions. Basically a homogenous blob you can put anywhere on the perimeter who doesn't take away from your better players or make horrendous mistakes. Worst thing about him is overall passivity, and I will take that over someone like Stanley Johnson who is gonna try and do more than he's capable of and actually hurt the team.

He plays 25+ MPG. Those aren't 3rd string minutes.

One cannot blame a player for his minutes. If all he got were 3rd string minutes we wouldn't have any complaints at all.

[Grew]

What role does McCaw fill?

3rd string pg/sg/sf. Handles the ball, moves the ball, shoots wide open shots, defends all 3 perimeter positions. Basically a homogenous blob you can put anywhere on the perimeter who doesn't take away from your better players or make horrendous mistakes. Worst thing about him is overall passivity, and I will take that over someone like Stanley Johnson who is gonna try and do more than he's capable of and actually hurt the team.

He plays 25+ MPG. Those aren't 3rd string minutes.

Injuries has a lot to do with it. But also the amount of perimeter players being used together in todays NBA is way more than just a few years ago. its basically Kyle/fred/Mccaw, Norm/TD/Mccaw, OG/RHJ/Mccaw. Mccaws size and ability to initiate the offense makes him the most versatile guy from that group when it comes to what position he slots in at. If we had no injuries this season, Mccaw's minutes would probably be more on par with TD.

[SHFT]

He passes up open shots every single game. Every single game. That is not a minor mistake, but a major one. It tells opposing defenses they do not need to guard him. It tells our players passing to him is a waste of time. There was a game 2 weeks ago where Lowry spoke to McCaw during a timeout after he passed on an open shot. Its unacceptable.

As does OG at times. As did Gasol basically the entire start of the season. Doesnt make him terrible.

Gasol and OG contribute in other ways. Gasol is an elite defender and passer. OG is one of our best wing defenders. McCaw literally does nothing.

Oh really? because there were a ton of people bashing both.

Again, Ill give McCaw the same benefit Nurse does and you dont have to but I promise, its less stressful.

[Psubs]

I was looking at players and noticed that McCaw is actually shooting 45% and 36% from 3 with an A/T of over 2.

An allstar with an A/T less than 2 who is also shooting 45% and 36 from 3 is Donovan Mitchell. Mitchell is not a good defender but Gobert is one of the best. Mitchell is a chucker who gets to shoot 20 shots per game. Mitchell will probably eventually ask for the max but McCaw at his price will help the team win more.

[Randle McMurphy]

I was looking at players and noticed that McCaw is actually shooting 45% and 36% from 3 with an A/T of over 2.

An allstar with an A/T less than 2 who is also shooting 45% and 36 from 3 is Donovan Mitchell. Mitchell is not a good defender but Gobert is one of the best. Mitchell is a chucker who gets to shoot 20 shots per game. Mitchell will probably eventually ask for the max but McCaw at his price will help the team win more.

[Randle McMurphy]

Can anyone tell me what McCaw was doing during his 22 scoreless minutes on court tonight while Davis was balling out?