Dame Time on Twitter!

[Roy The Natural]

He made a point in post-game interview. I respect that and he's right.

But there's no reason to go to social networks and repeat that once again. Nothing will change.
Bad call unfortunately, but let's move on and not cry. There are a lot of bad calls happening each game.

I disagree completely..Only way to change things is to keep highlighting whats wrong until it's fixed. It's always the same excuses being made every time bad officiating ruins games. ''Bad calls happen move on''...How about fixing things?

I can understand your point but there were thousands of bad calls highlighted before.
Did something change?
Do you think it will change now after this outburst on twitter?

You know the answer - right or wrong.

So it's just a waist of energy and probably money.

I hate then NBA players say I have lots of money to pay the fine. Cool Bro!
But if you know that a fine of 15.000 is coming maybe give that amount to some charity or families who needed that instead of paying it to NBA...

Things did change though. Portland getting screwed over a few years ago was the main impetus to make actual goaltending calls at the end of the game reviewable.

[reflex35]

I disagree completely..Only way to change things is to keep highlighting whats wrong until it's fixed. It's always the same excuses being made every time bad officiating ruins games. ''Bad calls happen move on''...How about fixing things?

I can understand your point but there were thousands of bad calls highlighted before.
Did something change?
Do you think it will change now after this outburst on twitter?

You know the answer - right or wrong.

So it's just a waist of energy and probably money.

I hate then NBA players say I have lots of money to pay the fine. Cool Bro!
But if you know that a fine of 15.000 is coming maybe give that amount to some charity or families who needed that instead of paying it to NBA...

Things did change though. Portland getting screwed over a few years ago was the main impetus to make actual goaltending calls at the end of the game reviewable.

Ok that's a point but would you not agree that Dame can do things in a smarter way?

I am sure that at least few guys in NBA (like Bron, KD, Kawhi) have a direct access to Silver.

Not sure if Dame does, but Silver picks up the phone for some guys.

Put Adam on a spotlight. Give him a call - tell him that's wrong, listen to what he has to say.
Afterwards tell the media or in social media that you talked to Silver about it.

Only a boss can make a decision. Put a light pressure on him. Call him out to make things right.

[darmani]

This is from a game the Suns lost by 1 point earlier this season.

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[Tracymcgoaty]

He made a point in post-game interview. I respect that and he's right.

But there's no reason to go to social networks and repeat that once again. Nothing will change.
Bad call unfortunately, but let's move on and not cry. There are a lot of bad calls happening each game.

I disagree completely..Only way to change things is to keep highlighting whats wrong until it's fixed. It's always the same excuses being made every time bad officiating ruins games. ''Bad calls happen move on''...How about fixing things?

I can understand your point but there were thousands of bad calls highlighted before.
Did something change?
Do you think it will change now after this outburst on twitter?

You know the answer - right or wrong.

So it's just a waist of energy and probably money.

I hate then NBA players say I have lots of money to pay the fine. Cool Bro!
But if you know that a fine of 15.000 is coming maybe give that amount to some charity or families who needed that instead of paying it to NBA...

So you want players paying a fine to be thoughtful of other people and instead take that money and donate? You think players think about those things when they play the game of basketball and react emotionally to bad calls ruining a game?

How about the NBA donate those fines to charity instead of taking it to the piggy bank? NBA has a revenue of about 8 billion dollars a year i think and you want NBA players to be thoughtful of others when they pay a fine?

This is actually a deeper problem into the way people think when criticizing players for the choices they make. The whole China incident where people were rightfully bashing Lebron Harden etc...I didn't see one person criticize the owners i didn't criticize the owners either but i just found that funny. Sure they didn't say anything..But they never got a mic put in front of them and asked a question. It's a bit hypocritical to me. Why are we expecting so much out of players but nothing out of owners or the NBA in general? If you've got a malfunction in a product you're selling it needs to be highlighted and fixed.

[itlnsunsfan]

He made a point in post-game interview. I respect that and he's right.

But there's no reason to go to social networks and repeat that once again. Nothing will change.
Bad call unfortunately, but let's move on and not cry. There are a lot of bad calls happening each game.

I disagree completely..Only way to change things is to keep highlighting whats wrong until it's fixed. It's always the same excuses being made every time bad officiating ruins games. ''Bad calls happen move on''...How about fixing things?

I can understand your point but there were thousands of bad calls highlighted before.
Did something change?
Do you think it will change now after this outburst on twitter?

You know the answer - right or wrong.

So it's just a waist of energy and probably money.

I hate then NBA players say I have lots of money to pay the fine. Cool Bro!
But if you know that a fine of 15.000 is coming maybe give that amount to some charity or families who needed that instead of paying it to NBA...

NBA gives fine money to charities.

[itlnsunsfan]

I disagree completely..Only way to change things is to keep highlighting whats wrong until it's fixed. It's always the same excuses being made every time bad officiating ruins games. ''Bad calls happen move on''...How about fixing things?

I can understand your point but there were thousands of bad calls highlighted before.
Did something change?
Do you think it will change now after this outburst on twitter?

You know the answer - right or wrong.

So it's just a waist of energy and probably money.

I hate then NBA players say I have lots of money to pay the fine. Cool Bro!
But if you know that a fine of 15.000 is coming maybe give that amount to some charity or families who needed that instead of paying it to NBA...

So you want players paying a fine to be thoughtful of other people and instead take that money and donate? You think players think about those things when they play the game of basketball and react emotionally to bad calls ruining a game?

How about the NBA donate those fines to charity instead of taking it to the piggy bank? NBA has a revenue of about 8 billion dollars a year i think and you want NBA players to be thoughtful of others when they pay a fine?

This is actually a deeper problem into the way people think when criticizing players for the choices they make. The whole China incident where people were rightfully bashing Lebron Harden etc...I didn't see one person criticize the owners i didn't criticize the owners either but i just found that funny. Sure they didn't say anything..But they never got a mic put in front of them and asked a question. It's a bit hypocritical to me. Why are we expecting so much out of players but nothing out of owners or the NBA in general? If you've got a malfunction in a product you're selling it needs to be highlighted and fixed.

Again, the NBA gives fine money to charities.

[Roy The Natural]

This is from a game the Suns lost by 1 point earlier this season.

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No one is saying that these calls aren't missed. But neither of those calls happened with 19 seconds left in the game. It's a complete false equivalency. The Suns had ample time to make up for the bad calls. If this had happened with even 3 minutes remaining in the game, there would have been no outcry.

Bad calls happen, and as long as you're given a chance to overcome them, it's life. When you're not given a chance to overcome bad calls, that's when outcry is warranted.

[Tracymcgoaty]

I can understand your point but there were thousands of bad calls highlighted before.
Did something change?
Do you think it will change now after this outburst on twitter?

You know the answer - right or wrong.

So it's just a waist of energy and probably money.

I hate then NBA players say I have lots of money to pay the fine. Cool Bro!
But if you know that a fine of 15.000 is coming maybe give that amount to some charity or families who needed that instead of paying it to NBA...

So you want players paying a fine to be thoughtful of other people and instead take that money and donate? You think players think about those things when they play the game of basketball and react emotionally to bad calls ruining a game?

How about the NBA donate those fines to charity instead of taking it to the piggy bank? NBA has a revenue of about 8 billion dollars a year i think and you want NBA players to be thoughtful of others when they pay a fine?

This is actually a deeper problem into the way people think when criticizing players for the choices they make. The whole China incident where people were rightfully bashing Lebron Harden etc...I didn't see one person criticize the owners i didn't criticize the owners either but i just found that funny. Sure they didn't say anything..But they never got a mic put in front of them and asked a question. It's a bit hypocritical to me. Why are we expecting so much out of players but nothing out of owners or the NBA in general? If you've got a malfunction in a product you're selling it needs to be highlighted and fixed.

Again, the NBA gives fine money to charities.

Great im all for it but my question was why people put all responsibility on the player and not the people running things.

[reflex35]

I disagree completely..Only way to change things is to keep highlighting whats wrong until it's fixed. It's always the same excuses being made every time bad officiating ruins games. ''Bad calls happen move on''...How about fixing things?

I can understand your point but there were thousands of bad calls highlighted before.
Did something change?
Do you think it will change now after this outburst on twitter?

You know the answer - right or wrong.

So it's just a waist of energy and probably money.

I hate then NBA players say I have lots of money to pay the fine. Cool Bro!
But if you know that a fine of 15.000 is coming maybe give that amount to some charity or families who needed that instead of paying it to NBA...

So you want players paying a fine to be thoughtful of other people and instead take that money and donate? You think players think about those things when they play the game of basketball and react emotionally to bad calls ruining a game?

How about the NBA donate those fines to charity instead of taking it to the piggy bank? NBA has a revenue of about 8 billion dollars a year i think and you want NBA players to be thoughtful of others when they pay a fine?

This is actually a deeper problem into the way people think when criticizing players for the choices they make. The whole China incident where people were rightfully bashing Lebron Harden etc...I didn't see one person criticize the owners i didn't criticize the owners either but i just found that funny. Sure they didn't say anything..But they never got a mic put in front of them and asked a question. It's a bit hypocritical to me. Why are we expecting so much out of players but nothing out of owners or the NBA in general? If you've got a malfunction in a product you're selling it needs to be highlighted and fixed.

NBA donating those fines is a great idea.
And maybe that's were it all should go.

It's really hard to establish rules which make sense. I do understand league's position that you cannot complain about the calls, because what will happen? everyone will complain.
Do you think refs do those mistakes on purpose? Of course not...
Should it be some consequences for bad mistakes for refs. Yes it should and sometimes NBA suspends them...

So I don't agree about the money side of things and where it's going. I don't appreciate players bumping their chest to say I got plenty of money... And for sure I don't like that NBA takes that money and distributes for rich people.

But the reality is this. There should be some rules set, there should be complaint procedure (which NBA has) and I don't question those.
I agree with you that it all should be avoided and if there is a fine it should go a good cause and not to pockets of NBA officials or rich owners or employees of the league.

[GSP]

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Full interview has some HEAVY shades of Iversons practice with the "cost us the game" parts

[darmani]

This is from a game the Suns lost by 1 point earlier this season.

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No one is saying that these calls aren't missed. But neither of those calls happened with 19 seconds left in the game. It's a complete false equivalency. The Suns had ample time to make up for the bad calls. If this had happened with even 3 minutes remaining in the game, there would have been no outcry.

Bad calls happen, and as long as you're given a chance to overcome them, it's life. When you're not given a chance to overcome bad calls, that's when outcry is warranted.

From the same game:



Baynes was clearly outside the restricted area and it was called a blocking foul.

[itlnsunsfan]

This is from a game the Suns lost by 1 point earlier this season.

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No one is saying that these calls aren't missed. But neither of those calls happened with 19 seconds left in the game. It's a complete false equivalency. The Suns had ample time to make up for the bad calls. If this had happened with even 3 minutes remaining in the game, there would have been no outcry.

Bad calls happen, and as long as you're given a chance to overcome them, it's life. When you're not given a chance to overcome bad calls, that's when outcry is warranted.

If there is no way to solve the problem, then it's something you have to live with. However, technology exists to where a lot of these problems could be solved. A lot is riding on these calls. I think any and everything should be done to ensure they're correct, rather than just say "that's life".

[Catchall]

So first of all, yes, that was a badly missed goaltending call and it's inexcusable. However, there were bad calls all game, a few of which directly resulted in points for the Blazers.

Second of all, if goaltending were called, the game would have been tied, and the Jazz would have possession with an opportunity to win the game in regulation, and another opportunity to win the game in overtime. Blazers would have had a chance to win the game, but that call alone didn't singlehandedly cost them the game. That wasn't a game-winning shot attempt by Lillard. It would have sent the game into OT if the Jazz couldn't convert anything in their final possession.

[lebron stopper]

This is from a game the Suns lost by 1 point earlier this season.

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More bad officiating that benefited the Blazers this season: Whiteside's uncalled moving screen against the Raptors. The Blazers don't win that game without it.

[NyKnicks1714]

It's good that Dame and the Blazers are making this much noise about this. I could definitely see a rule change here, not related to challenges, but something that would allow refs to review possible, non-called goaltends in the last 2 minutes.

[queridiculo]

Baynes was clearly outside the restricted area and it was called a blocking foul.

Yet he's still out of position, so...

The NBA needs to fix bad calls in late game situations, the coaches challenge ain't it.

[Roy The Natural]

So first of all, yes, that was a badly missed goaltending call and it's inexcusable. However, there were bad calls all game, a few of which directly resulted in points for the Blazers.

Second of all, if goaltending were called, the game would have been tied, and the Jazz would have possession with an opportunity to win the game in regulation, and another opportunity to win the game in overtime. Blazers would have had a chance to win the game, but that call alone didn't singlehandedly cost them the game. That wasn't a game-winning shot attempt by Lillard. It would have sent the game into OT if the Jazz couldn't convert anything in their final possession.

To be fair, I though Lillard was clearly fouled on the final play as well. I also thought the refs missed a clear flagrant on O'Neal's undercutting of Simons.


I wouldn't say that the refs cost the Blazers the game. But they cost the Blazers a legitimate chance at winning the game. Which is plenty bad.

[Roy The Natural]

Baynes was clearly outside the restricted area and it was called a blocking foul.

Yet he's still out of position, so...

The NBA needs to fix bad calls in late game situations, the coaches challenge ain't it.

It's irrelevant anyways. Suns could have challenged it.

[Mr. Crowley]

Toughness? Man shut the hell up, y'all playing like ass lately and are a soft bunch.

[Ice Trae]

Can you blame them for acting this way? No one wants to lose like that. Especially when you're fighting for a playoff spot. Every game matters.