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Post#261 » by NippySudz » Sat Feb 8, 2020 7:18 am

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Hmm... don't think he'd be my ideal choice for a Plan B if Collison chooses the Lakers. We'll see, though.

I’m not sure there is much of a talent gap between Jackson and Collison if any

I’m not sure the clippers need that much help at guard. Perhaps they should bring a guy like Noah in for an extra big body. He is at least a smart, solid, and feisty player
Noah is coming off Achilles tear. Not smart to bring him in. He's going to get hurt again. His body hasn't had time to heal from the tear. Putting that type of load on his body, he's going to get hurt, his Achilles is going to over compensate and he's going to injury something else. See DeMarcus cousins. He came back after six months iirc, got three injuries on one leg.

He got an Achilles tear which led to a quad tear which led to an ACL tear.

Clippers should sign him as a hail Mary if they can't get anyone else. Cause he's going to get hurt. Not if but when.

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Re: Trade Targets 

Post#262 » by esqtvd » Sat Feb 8, 2020 8:41 am

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Will he be sitting with Mr. Ballmer and Mr. West tonight?


Yes, because of the sal cap situation, Collison can make an extra $500K or so with the Lakers. But he already walked away from $5-10 million this year for his religion.

And yes, he'll get more playing time with the Lakers. In fact they desperately need him already, and would love at least 20 mpg from him as soon as he can go.

OTOH, the Clips are mellow, just starting their upward trajectory and playoff run, and are still only a couple games back from the fading Lakers. Darren can work himself back into NBA shape at his own pace, and have no expectations on his head. Doc will give him as many minutes as he can handle in the championship run but will ask no more of him.



This is a Lee Jenkins Executive Director of Research and Identity moment, I think. Touchy-feely. :wink:
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Re: Trade Targets 

Post#263 » by TheNewEra » Sat Feb 8, 2020 9:48 am

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Hmm... don't think he'd be my ideal choice for a Plan B if Collison chooses the Lakers. We'll see, though.

I’m not sure there is much of a talent gap between Jackson and Collison if any

I’m not sure the clippers need that much help at guard. Perhaps they should bring a guy like Noah in for an extra big body. He is at least a smart, solid, and feisty player
Noah is coming off Achilles tear. Not smart to bring him in. He's going to get hurt again. His body hasn't had time to heal from the tear. Putting that type of load on his body, he's going to get hurt, his Achilles is going to over compensate and he's going to injury something else. See DeMarcus cousins. He came back after six months iirc, got three injuries on one leg.

He got an Achilles tear which led to a quad tear which led to an ACL tear.

Clippers should sign him as a hail Mary if they can't get anyone else. Cause he's going to get hurt. Not if but when.

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Wow did not know he had surgery for that injury. Will definitely put a burden on his chances though he could come along slowly as he would be a third stringer that would be saved for the playoffs.
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Re: Trade Targets 

Post#264 » by NippySudz » Sat Feb 8, 2020 12:33 pm

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Roscoe Sheed wrote:I’m not sure there is much of a talent gap between Jackson and Collison if any

I’m not sure the clippers need that much help at guard. Perhaps they should bring a guy like Noah in for an extra big body. He is at least a smart, solid, and feisty player
Noah is coming off Achilles tear. Not smart to bring him in. He's going to get hurt again. His body hasn't had time to heal from the tear. Putting that type of load on his body, he's going to get hurt, his Achilles is going to over compensate and he's going to injury something else. See DeMarcus cousins. He came back after six months iirc, got three injuries on one leg.

He got an Achilles tear which led to a quad tear which led to an ACL tear.

Clippers should sign him as a hail Mary if they can't get anyone else. Cause he's going to get hurt. Not if but when.

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Wow did not know he had surgery for that injury. Will definitely put a burden on his chances though he could come along slowly as he would be a third stringer that would be saved for the playoffs.
This is the NBA..he's going to need real game time to have continuity. The guy should just heal up and come back next yr but I guess he feels his NBA career is in jeopardy right now as it is.

They say he's running on it now. Well so are John wall and KD. You can run on an Achilles 4months after surgery. But the load of an NBA player is different.

Running on it a mile or two a night, 3-4times a week, slashing cutting, stopping, going, jumping Is totally different then posting a video of yourself running the track on insagram.

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Post#265 » by Roscoe Sheed » Sat Feb 8, 2020 3:01 pm

I had no idea Noah had suffered a major injury. Maybe give bogut a call instead
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Post#266 » by NippySudz » Sat Feb 8, 2020 3:44 pm

Roscoe Sheed wrote:I had no idea Noah had suffered a major injury. Maybe give bogut a call instead
Bogut is too old. Couldn't move at all in the finals last yr.

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Post#267 » by TucsonClip » Sat Feb 8, 2020 4:11 pm

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QRich3 wrote:Ugh so apparently we not only gave this year's 1st rounder and Detroit's 2nd rounder next year, but we also gave the Knicks the right to swap 1st round picks next year (top 4 protected). It's very unlikely that the Knicks would finish above us next year, but if for some reason everything goes wrong, we're gonna be paying another lottery pick for 3 months of Marcus Morris :nonono:


If things go so wrong next year that the frikin' Knicks finish higher than us, then a slightly worse pick (they'll still suck, let's be real) will be the last thing on my mind.

I know, but it still makes a not that great trade slightly worse. We were bidding against ourselves from the moment the Lakers took Kuzma out, and we still paid quite a bit more than I'd think Morris value is. It's not a big deal, we're a better team now, and that's the important thing, but we now don't control any of our next 7 first round picks. That makes me very uncomfortable.


Since we have non-bird rights on Morris, and we targeted him as a free agent this past summer, I'd bet he's a top priority to re-sign. He's making $15 mil and we can pay him up to a starting salary of $18 mil this summer. That is why I think we were comfortable making this move, as he's essentially our draft asset realized and also potentially pushed down the road as an asset, and the very least, a salary matching option if he's back next year.
Plus, why would I want to go to the NBA? Duke players suck in the pros.

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Post#268 » by TheNewEra » Sat Feb 8, 2020 5:37 pm

NippySudz wrote:
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NippySudz wrote:Noah is coming off Achilles tear. Not smart to bring him in. He's going to get hurt again. His body hasn't had time to heal from the tear. Putting that type of load on his body, he's going to get hurt, his Achilles is going to over compensate and he's going to injury something else. See DeMarcus cousins. He came back after six months iirc, got three injuries on one leg.

He got an Achilles tear which led to a quad tear which led to an ACL tear.

Clippers should sign him as a hail Mary if they can't get anyone else. Cause he's going to get hurt. Not if but when.

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Wow did not know he had surgery for that injury. Will definitely put a burden on his chances though he could come along slowly as he would be a third stringer that would be saved for the playoffs.
This is the NBA..he's going to need real game time to have continuity. The guy should just heal up and come back next yr but I guess he feels his NBA career is in jeopardy right now as it is.

They say he's running on it now. Well so are John wall and KD. You can run on an Achilles 4months after surgery. But the load of an NBA player is different.

Running on it a mile or two a night, 3-4times a week, slashing cutting, stopping, going, jumping Is totally different then posting a video of yourself running the track on insagram.

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That really sucks his perimeter passing ability would of been great
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Re: Trade Targets 

Post#269 » by 50CalClips » Sat Feb 8, 2020 10:04 pm

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50CalClips wrote:I'll take Danny Green for Mo Harkless!

L.A. gets Danny Green
N.Y. gets Kyle Kuzma and Mo Harkless
L.B. gets Marcus Morris



So, things worked out a bit different than ^this^


Yeah, it's a good thing we have a good front office because that was a terrible suggestion.


Terrible for whom?

You don't like Danny Green over Harkless?!?
Sheeeit, Mo Harkless for Danny Green, straight up... I'd take that, easily.

Harkless in the Playoffs:
33 games
43.6 FG%
28.9 3FG%
48.5 eFG%
50.6 TS%
111 DefRtg*

Danny Green in the Playoffs:
124 games
41.4 FG% (twice as many 3FGA as 2FGA)
38.7 3FG%
54.7 eFG%
56.1 TS%
104 DefRtg*


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Post#270 » by Roscoe Sheed » Sat Feb 8, 2020 10:42 pm

I don’t know if luc is healthy, but it wouldn’t hurt to have another wing defender. I’d rather have him on the court than McGruder
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Re: Trade Targets 

Post#271 » by NippySudz » Sat Feb 8, 2020 10:46 pm

50CalClips wrote:
NippySudz wrote:
50CalClips wrote:
So, things worked out a bit different than ^this^


Yeah, it's a good thing we have a good front office because that was a terrible suggestion.


Terrible for whom?

You don't like Danny Green over Harkless?!?
Sheeeit, Mo Harkless for Danny Green, straight up... I'd take that, easily.

Harkless in the Playoffs:
33 games
43.6 FG%
28.9 3FG%
48.5 eFG%
50.6 TS%
111 DefRtg*

Danny Green in the Playoffs:
124 games
41.4 FG% (twice as many 3FGA as 2FGA)
38.7 3FG%
54.7 eFG%
56.1 TS%
104 DefRtg*


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Danny is a guard my g. Moe harkless can guard 1-4. I rather have Marcus Morris over Danny green if I have to give up Moe harkless.

That's three additional wings that can slow down giannis or LeBron. And can score.

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Re: Trade Targets 

Post#272 » by 50CalClips » Sat Feb 8, 2020 11:14 pm

NippySudz wrote:
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Yeah, it's a good thing we have a good front office because that was a terrible suggestion.


Terrible for whom?

You don't like Danny Green over Harkless?!?
Sheeeit, Mo Harkless for Danny Green, straight up... I'd take that, easily....

Danny is a guard my g. Moe harkless can guard 1-4. I rather have Marcus Morris over Danny green if I have to give up Moe harkless.

That's three additional wings that can slow down giannis or LeBron. And can score.
Danny is a guard my g. Moe harkless can guard 1-4. I rather have Marcus Morris over Danny green if I have to give up Moe harkless.

That's three additional wings that can slow down giannis or LeBron. And can score.


Danny Green's Championship pedigree out-weighs that factor.

Danny Green makes Landry Shamet expendable, which creates (would've created) another trade-able asset (and in a 'straight-up' scenario, it would mean the Clips would still have the 2020 Pick). We'd have Landry Shamet plus a 1st Rnd Pick to wheel and deal with (and JaMychal or Patterson, if we're really that in need of a PF-upgrade).


And Danny Green is not some little guy, he's pretty versatile too...

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Post#273 » by NippySudz » Sun Feb 9, 2020 12:34 am

Roscoe Sheed wrote:I don’t know if luc is healthy, but it wouldn’t hurt to have another wing defender. I’d rather have him on the court than McGruder
Mcgruder isn't seeing playoff mins unless there clippers are up 30pts with 1min left to go

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Post#274 » by NippySudz » Sun Feb 9, 2020 12:36 am

50CalClips wrote:
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Terrible for whom?

You don't like Danny Green over Harkless?!?
Sheeeit, Mo Harkless for Danny Green, straight up... I'd take that, easily....

Danny is a guard my g. Moe harkless can guard 1-4. I rather have Marcus Morris over Danny green if I have to give up Moe harkless.

That's three additional wings that can slow down giannis or LeBron. And can score.
Danny is a guard my g. Moe harkless can guard 1-4. I rather have Marcus Morris over Danny green if I have to give up Moe harkless.

That's three additional wings that can slow down giannis or LeBron. And can score.


Danny Green's Championship pedigree out-weighs that factor.

Danny Green makes Landry Shamet expendable, which creates (would've created) another trade-able asset (and in a 'straight-up' scenario, it would mean the Clips would still have the 2020 Pick). We'd have Landry Shamet plus a 1st Rnd Pick to wheel and deal with (and JaMychal or Patterson, if we're really that in need of a PF-upgrade).


And Danny Green is not some little guy, he's pretty versatile too...

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He was switching on those people..he cannot guard LeBron straight up or any strong wing. Those pictures don't prove anything. I'm curious about the numbers if you have them?

I like Danny over harkless "straight up" but I don't think Danny fits the needs of the team personally.

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Re: Trade Targets 

Post#275 » by TrueLAfan » Sun Feb 9, 2020 3:53 pm

Reggie Jackson would help. He’s not a defender (he’s better than Lou, though that’s a low bar). He’s been a 29 mpg 16-3-5.5 guy for the last 5 and half years with Detroit, and has shot pretty well in that time (.427/.353/.853). He can play at both PG and SG, so he backs up two positions. Besides needing a backup PG, we’ve occasionally lacked offensive punch. Jackson helps big time in both areas.

He may also help us long term. If we move Lou this offseason--which may happen--we'll need a player like Jackson.
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Post#276 » by Yogatti » Sun Feb 9, 2020 4:30 pm




He's actually playing really well these past few games.
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Post#277 » by NippySudz » Sun Feb 9, 2020 5:47 pm

We need defenders. We got to much players on the bench that can't play good defense

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Post#278 » by QRich3 » Sun Feb 9, 2020 8:42 pm

MKG was cut by the Hornets, but he can’t shoot to save his life. That’s the problem with defenders in the buyout market, they’re flawed somewhere else.

But I’d maybe give him a look, maybe a few spot minutes surrounded by Lou, Shamet, J-Myke, and either Kawhi or PG can work.
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Post#279 » by nickhx2 » Sun Feb 9, 2020 10:07 pm

yeah i've been wondering if mkg has any game left. i know he can't shoot but, we need impact defenders.
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Post#280 » by MartinToVaught » Sun Feb 9, 2020 10:27 pm

I wonder if Biyombo will get bought out next. He's the exact type of player we could use off the bench.
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