2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1

Negrodamus · Post #241 » by **Negrodamus** » Sat Feb 8, 2020 5:13 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:I'm kinda jumping on the Devin Vassell hype train.

Defensive phenom with point production and shooting ability.

You gotta be chock full of ball handlers to entertain making a selection like him, though. A team like Chicago or Cleveland would make a lot of sense. A team like us should probably pass. Same with Haliburton.

Replacing JRich with him seems like a natural progression. If he can develop his creating ability, then we have a star.

Kobblehead · Post #242 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Feb 8, 2020 5:21 pm

Negrodamus wrote:Replacing JRich with him seems like a natural progression. If he can develop his creating ability, then we have a star.

Yeah, but that's the white whale that all the defensive phenoms are chasing. He can attack closeouts fine, but he seems pretty awkward handling the ball. At least from what I've seen.

He'd probably need to stay at Florida State for four years (which he's obviously not going to do) and get a ton of reps as the top guy to have a shot at developing that trait.

stormi · Post #243 » by **stormi** » Sat Feb 8, 2020 5:37 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
stormi wrote:Nesmith looks like a Sixer.

Yes he does.

Spoiler:

In all seriousness, he'd be a really good get at the end of the 1st round.

6'6" 215 pound G/F that is an outright marksman. He actually has a little creating ability, too. And he's more than capable of being a decent team defender in a strong scheme.

His assist to turnover ratio sucks really bad, but he looks like a seamless fit for this offense. The bigger Redick/Marco that we were looking for.

Kobblehead · Post #244 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Feb 8, 2020 6:17 pm

Devon Dotson is filthy. How is a 6'2" 180 pound dude this scary at the point of attack defensively? If he had better passing, he might be a lotto pick. I still think he's a worthy 1st rounder. He can score his ass off.

Kobblehead · Post #245 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Feb 8, 2020 11:05 pm

stormi wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:
stormi wrote:Nesmith looks like a Sixer.

Yes he does.

Spoiler:

In all seriousness, he'd be a really good get at the end of the 1st round.

6'6" 215 pound G/F that is an outright marksman. He actually has a little creating ability, too. And he's more than capable of being a decent team defender in a strong scheme.

His assist to turnover ratio sucks really bad, but he looks like a seamless fit for this offense. The bigger Redick/Marco that we were looking for.

A small concern for Nesmith that I have is his slow ass release.

If you want a similar sized G/F with excellent shooting ability and a lightning quick release, check out Landers Nolley. His footwork is godlike.

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Kobblehead · Post #246 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Feb 8, 2020 11:12 pm

Cole Anthony vs. Trey Jones, let's go!

Kobblehead · Post #247 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Feb 8, 2020 11:22 pm

Cole Anthony splits the double team and hits a tear drop in front of the guy waiting under the basket. Man, I hope he gets his efficiency numbers back on track, because he's an elite talent. Cole Anthony would save the Knicks!

No-Man · Post #248 » by **No-Man** » Sun Feb 9, 2020 1:04 pm

Nolley is like way worse athletically than Nesmith

Kobblehead · Post #249 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Feb 9, 2020 2:13 pm

@Smitty

Tillman: 17 points, 12 rebounds, 2 steals, 2 blocks against Michigan.

Kobblehead · Post #250 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Feb 9, 2020 2:29 pm

Hot take: Cal's Matt Bradley is the best SG in this draft and should be a top 10 pick. He's going to be a star in the NBA. Rich man's Eric Gordon.

Dude is built like a tank, too, good luck guarding him with a 180-205 pound skinny kid like Thybulle/Richardson/Gilgeous-Alexander.

Negrodamus · Post #251 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun Feb 9, 2020 6:54 pm

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We talked about him before, but Ellerby is maintaining a strong season. His shot concerns me, but he's also a near 80% FT shooter. His ability to draw fouls and his comfort handling the ball/shooting 6 three point attempts a game really makes him alluring to me.

Negrodamus · Post #252 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun Feb 9, 2020 7:20 pm

I truly hope we consider Desmond Bane with a second rounder. Here are his concerns: length, low FTr, and a senior. That's about it. He has shown distributing capabilities this year (22.6 AST%) and is one of the best shooters in the draft (43% from three). I think his strength and athleticism will make up for his lack of length at the SG position. He has also elevated his defense this year.

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Arsenal · Post #253 » by **Arsenal** » Sun Feb 9, 2020 8:11 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Hot take: Cal's Matt Bradley is the best SG in this draft and should be a top 10 pick. He's going to be a star in the NBA. Rich man's Eric Gordon.

Dude is built like a tank, too, good luck guarding him with a 180-205 pound skinny kid like Thybulle/Richardson/Gilgeous-Alexander.

Nice offensive numbers. Can he D up? STL and BLK %'s look poor.

Kobblehead · Post #254 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Feb 9, 2020 9:08 pm

Arsenal wrote:Nice offensive numbers. Can he D up? STL and BLK %'s look poor.

He was an okay team defender as a freshman when he didn't carry a big scoring load. Whether or not he's a good defender in the NBA will probably depend on what scheme he goes to. For instance, who would have thought Donte DiVincenzo would be among the best perimeter defenders in the NBA? I wouldn't have even classified him as a good college defender at Villanova. He goes to Budenholzer and that's all she wrote.

Negrodamus · Post #255 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun Feb 9, 2020 9:21 pm

I brought this guy up before, but one guy that checks almost every box as a guard is Elijah Hughes from Syracuse.

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Syracuse sucks this year, but he's been one of their bright spots. Not sure what his length is: 6'6 is listed height. But he's been hunting blocks (3.7 BLK% as a guard), just short of what I look for in steals (1.9 STL%), and has been quite the dynamo on offense:

.357 FTr, .501 3PAr, .564 TS%, 22.0 AST%, 81% FT, 36% 3FG, 19 ppg.

Here's another where he's cooking:

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Kobblehead · Post #256 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Feb 9, 2020 9:22 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
Spoiler:

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We talked about him before, but Ellerby is maintaining a strong season. His shot concerns me, but he's also a near 80% FT shooter. His ability to draw fouls and his comfort handling the ball/shooting 6 three point attempts a game really makes him alluring to me.

Soooo good. I'm a big fan of Elleby, too.

It seems like his jumpshot progression is on a similar development trajectory as Miles Bridges' was from freshman year to sophomore year.

Negrodamus · Post #257 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun Feb 9, 2020 9:30 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Spoiler:

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We talked about him before, but Ellerby is maintaining a strong season. His shot concerns me, but he's also a near 80% FT shooter. His ability to draw fouls and his comfort handling the ball/shooting 6 three point attempts a game really makes him alluring to me.

Soooo good. I'm a big fan of Elleby, too.

It seems like his jumpshot progression is on a similar development trajectory as Miles Bridges' was from freshman year to sophomore year.

It looks like, to a lesser extent, that Lonzo Ball across-the-body load up that usually results in bad FT%. Fultz kinda had a small version of that before he completely blew up his form.

But clearly it's not an issue for him right now. Hopefully it translates.

Kobblehead · Post #258 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Feb 9, 2020 9:47 pm

And I love that Elleby looks like J.A. Adande in a Party City wig.

Kobblehead · Post #259 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Feb 9, 2020 9:57 pm

I may have to start attributing value to Tre Jones. Dude looked phenomenal in his matchup against Cole Anthony.

Arsenal · Post #260 » by **Arsenal** » Sun Feb 9, 2020 10:13 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I may have to start attributing value to Tre Jones. Dude looked phenomenal in his matchup against Cole Anthony.

Nice player except he can't shoot like the rest of his family.