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Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread

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What kind of player do you think we need most?

Point Guard
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Great Shooter
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3&D Wing
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#141 » by MagicFan101 » Sat Feb 8, 2020 3:01 am

thelead wrote:Who is the most offensively inept athlete with long arms in our range? Whoever that is, that’s our guy.


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Post#142 » by thelead » Sat Feb 8, 2020 4:16 am

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thelead wrote:Who is the most offensively inept athlete with long arms in our range? Whoever that is, that’s our guy.


The horse died two years ago. Let it go kid.

I have no reason to believe that they look for basketball players. They are of the belief that their best shot at drafting a difference maker is finding the freak athlete that has the work ethic to become a good basketball player. And I don’t necessarily disagree with that but sometimes you have to take a deviation from the norm and make a common sense decision when you look at the rest of this roster.
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#143 » by MagicFan101 » Sat Feb 8, 2020 4:28 am

thelead wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
thelead wrote:Who is the most offensively inept athlete with long arms in our range? Whoever that is, that’s our guy.


The horse died two years ago. Let it go kid.

I have no reason to believe that they look for basketball players. They are of the belief that their best shot at drafting a difference maker is finding the freak athlete that has the work ethic to become a good basketball player. And I don’t necessarily disagree with that but sometimes you have to take a deviation from the norm and make a common sense decision when you look at the rest of this roster.


... and does that have to be the one and only thing any of you can ever seem to discuss?

Bamba and Isaac went about where they were project to go. One looks to be a fantastic choice. Those other is still very much an unknown. Chuma is not as much in that same mold. So yes they do lean towards a type but I don’t put the same stock in this crap as you people. Regardless, the running “joke” is getting old. Do you really think saying over and over and over is clever?
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#144 » by The Real Dalic » Sat Feb 8, 2020 4:36 am

MagicFan101 wrote:
thelead wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
The horse died two years ago. Let it go kid.

I have no reason to believe that they look for basketball players. They are of the belief that their best shot at drafting a difference maker is finding the freak athlete that has the work ethic to become a good basketball player. And I don’t necessarily disagree with that but sometimes you have to take a deviation from the norm and make a common sense decision when you look at the rest of this roster.


... and does that have to be the one and only thing any of you can ever seem to discuss?

Bamba and Isaac went about where they were project to go. One looks to be a fantastic choice. Those other is still very much an unknown. Chuma is not as much in that same mold. So yes they do lean towards a type but I don’t put the same stock in this crap as you people. Regardless, the running “joke” is getting old. Do you really think saying over and over and over is clever?

Do they think drafting the same type of player over and over and over is clever? Clearly they do. We're going to draft the same type of player again and we'll hate it except for the few who'll defend it.

It's going to be yet another forward or center.
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#145 » by thelead » Sat Feb 8, 2020 4:43 am

MagicFan101 wrote:
thelead wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
The horse died two years ago. Let it go kid.

I have no reason to believe that they look for basketball players. They are of the belief that their best shot at drafting a difference maker is finding the freak athlete that has the work ethic to become a good basketball player. And I don’t necessarily disagree with that but sometimes you have to take a deviation from the norm and make a common sense decision when you look at the rest of this roster.


... and does that have to be the one and only thing any of you can ever seem to discuss?

Bamba and Isaac went about where they were project to go. One looks to be a fantastic choice. Those other is still very much an unknown. Chuma is not as much in that same mold. So yes they do lean towards a type but I don’t put the same stock in this crap as you people. Regardless, the running “joke” is getting old. Do you really think saying over and over and over is clever?


I haven’t complained about draft picks in a long time. You have me confused for somebody else. I was a fan of drafting Bamba and while I preferred DSJr during the draft I wasn’t upset about Isaac as I was a fan of his coming out FSU (and my major issue with Isaac during his time here has been his health).

That said:

Isaac
Bamba
Aminu
MCW
Birch
Iwundu
Fultz

Those are the FO’s major additions in 3 years now. It’s unfreakin’ deniable.
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#146 » by j-ragg » Sat Feb 8, 2020 3:35 pm

thelead wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
thelead wrote:I have no reason to believe that they look for basketball players. They are of the belief that their best shot at drafting a difference maker is finding the freak athlete that has the work ethic to become a good basketball player. And I don’t necessarily disagree with that but sometimes you have to take a deviation from the norm and make a common sense decision when you look at the rest of this roster.


... and does that have to be the one and only thing any of you can ever seem to discuss?

Bamba and Isaac went about where they were project to go. One looks to be a fantastic choice. Those other is still very much an unknown. Chuma is not as much in that same mold. So yes they do lean towards a type but I don’t put the same stock in this crap as you people. Regardless, the running “joke” is getting old. Do you really think saying over and over and over is clever?


Isaac
Bamba
Aminu
MCW
Birch
Iwundu
Fultz

Those are the FO’s major additions in 3 years now. It’s unfreakin’ deniable.

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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#147 » by Blue_and_Whte » Sat Feb 8, 2020 7:42 pm

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BadMofoPimp wrote:If the Magic could package Mo and their mid round pick for a top 10 or top 8 pick, would you do it?

Bamba could do it before Vuc could. How interesting is that?
Thats because teams are enfatuated by the "young player just needs a change of scenery" myth, not because hrs better. Try again

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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#148 » by Skin » Sat Feb 8, 2020 9:04 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
Skin wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:If the Magic could package Mo and their mid round pick for a top 10 or top 8 pick, would you do it?

Bamba could do it before Vuc could. How interesting is that?
Thats because teams are enfatuated by the "young player just needs a change of scenery" myth, not because hrs better. Try again

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Post#149 » by PrimeThyme » Sun Feb 9, 2020 1:54 am

That UNC-Duke game was incredible as always. Still not sure how I feel about Cole Anthony. Reminds me a lot of Coby white actually, but its hard to judge because Anthony is on a much more mediocre NC team.
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#150 » by MagicFan101 » Sun Feb 9, 2020 2:02 am

thelead wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
thelead wrote:I have no reason to believe that they look for basketball players. They are of the belief that their best shot at drafting a difference maker is finding the freak athlete that has the work ethic to become a good basketball player. And I don’t necessarily disagree with that but sometimes you have to take a deviation from the norm and make a common sense decision when you look at the rest of this roster.


... and does that have to be the one and only thing any of you can ever seem to discuss?

Bamba and Isaac went about where they were project to go. One looks to be a fantastic choice. Those other is still very much an unknown. Chuma is not as much in that same mold. So yes they do lean towards a type but I don’t put the same stock in this crap as you people. Regardless, the running “joke” is getting old. Do you really think saying over and over and over is clever?


I haven’t complained about draft picks in a long time. You have me confused for somebody else. I was a fan of drafting Bamba and while I preferred DSJr during the draft I wasn’t upset about Isaac as I was a fan of his coming out FSU (and my major issue with Isaac during his time here has been his health).

That said:

Isaac
Bamba
Aminu
MCW
Birch
Iwundu
Fultz

Those are the FO’s major additions in 3 years now. It’s unfreakin’ deniable.



Isaac, Bamba and Fultz are the only "major" additions of that group. The others are rotational moves every team makes every year.

Isaac and Fultz are looking good. Bamba is a big question mark. 2/3 with potential for that 3 to still be something isn't bad.

Aminu was paid enough to be considered more. Depending what we do with AG this summer we can revisit that move.
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#151 » by thelead » Sun Feb 9, 2020 4:13 am

MagicFan101 wrote:
thelead wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
... and does that have to be the one and only thing any of you can ever seem to discuss?

Bamba and Isaac went about where they were project to go. One looks to be a fantastic choice. Those other is still very much an unknown. Chuma is not as much in that same mold. So yes they do lean towards a type but I don’t put the same stock in this crap as you people. Regardless, the running “joke” is getting old. Do you really think saying over and over and over is clever?


I haven’t complained about draft picks in a long time. You have me confused for somebody else. I was a fan of drafting Bamba and while I preferred DSJr during the draft I wasn’t upset about Isaac as I was a fan of his coming out FSU (and my major issue with Isaac during his time here has been his health).

That said:

Isaac
Bamba
Aminu
MCW
Birch
Iwundu
Fultz

Those are the FO’s major additions in 3 years now. It’s unfreakin’ deniable.



Isaac, Bamba and Fultz are the only "major" additions of that group. The others are rotational moves every team makes every year.

Isaac and Fultz are looking good. Bamba is a big question mark. 2/3 with potential for that 3 to still be something isn't bad.

Aminu was paid enough to be considered more. Depending what we do with AG this summer we can revisit that move.


If you bring in players that become consistent rotation players (and even starters during an injury to one starter: Birch and Iwundu), that’s a major addition IMO... it’s just that many of them aren’t good. That’s on the FO.

I would rather not argue opinions of what ‘major addition’ means as it is just an opinion anyway.
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#152 » by MagicFan101 » Sun Feb 9, 2020 4:43 am

thelead wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
thelead wrote:
I haven’t complained about draft picks in a long time. You have me confused for somebody else. I was a fan of drafting Bamba and while I preferred DSJr during the draft I wasn’t upset about Isaac as I was a fan of his coming out FSU (and my major issue with Isaac during his time here has been his health).

That said:

Isaac
Bamba
Aminu
MCW
Birch
Iwundu
Fultz

Those are the FO’s major additions in 3 years now. It’s unfreakin’ deniable.



Isaac, Bamba and Fultz are the only "major" additions of that group. The others are rotational moves every team makes every year.

Isaac and Fultz are looking good. Bamba is a big question mark. 2/3 with potential for that 3 to still be something isn't bad.

Aminu was paid enough to be considered more. Depending what we do with AG this summer we can revisit that move.


If you bring in players that become consistent rotation players (and even starters during an injury to one starter: Birch and Iwundu), that’s a major addition IMO... it’s just that many of them aren’t good. That’s on the FO.

I would rather not argue opinions of what ‘major addition’ means as it is just an opinion anyway.


The front office pulled a Tonya Harding on our starting forward rotation and intentionally forced these nobodies into major roles over rising talent like Isaac? Is that your argument?


All that matter is that we need a star. Our front office takes risks in the draft for that goal. I do credit them for that. I don’t always agree with their choices. For example, I strongly felt Michael Porter Jr was a more calculated risk than Bamba. True, that injury was scary but at least we were talking about a legit #1 overall talent. Regardless, those risks may pay off for getting us a star ... or maybe they will not. Time will run out soon and they will be fired if that is the case. But I can assure people here that drafting guys like Mikhal Bridges or similar names people have cried for simply due to the position they play at an average level is not the recipe for finding a star.
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#153 » by thelead » Sun Feb 9, 2020 6:54 am

MagicFan101 wrote:
thelead wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:

Isaac, Bamba and Fultz are the only "major" additions of that group. The others are rotational moves every team makes every year.

Isaac and Fultz are looking good. Bamba is a big question mark. 2/3 with potential for that 3 to still be something isn't bad.

Aminu was paid enough to be considered more. Depending what we do with AG this summer we can revisit that move.


If you bring in players that become consistent rotation players (and even starters during an injury to one starter: Birch and Iwundu), that’s a major addition IMO... it’s just that many of them aren’t good. That’s on the FO.

I would rather not argue opinions of what ‘major addition’ means as it is just an opinion anyway.


The front office pulled a Tonya Harding on our starting forward rotation and intentionally forced these nobodies into major roles over rising talent like Isaac? Is that your argument?


No. LOL

Just that the guys you said weren’t ‘major additions’ are playing large roles for this team. Yes, I know it’s due to injury but even without the injuries, they are regular rotation players. For example, I wouldn’t argue that Frazier is major addition even though he fits the same profile. I was defending my point that the players I listed are ‘major (lol) additions’ to the team due to playing time and general role (regular rotation players).
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#154 » by drsd » Sun Feb 9, 2020 8:39 am

NBAdraft now has Orlando with Josh Green. Makes sense as:
Strengths: Elite defender
Weaknesses: Needs to become a more consistent jump shooter


What a joke!


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Post#155 » by cedric76 » Sun Feb 9, 2020 9:27 am

drsd wrote:NBAdraft now has Orlando with Josh Green. Makes sense as:
Strengths: Elite defender
Weaknesses: Needs to become a more consistent jump shooter


What a joke!


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Post#156 » by drsd » Sun Feb 9, 2020 11:49 am

cedric76 wrote:
drsd wrote:NBAdraft now has Orlando with Josh Green. Makes sense as:
Strengths: Elite defender
Weaknesses: Needs to become a more consistent jump shooter


What a joke!


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I like him a lot but i d rather go for 1 of the Frenchy (MALEDON Or HAYES)


For Orlando, I am hoping for either RJ Hampton or Precious Achiuwa. Either looks to be competent rotational players off of the bench. And that is what Orlando should be aiming for in the 15-18 range.

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Post#157 » by Knightro » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:40 am

A guy I'm REALLY starting to like for the Magic at 15 is Devin Vassell of Florida State.

Super efficient shooting numbers. Defensive metrics are pretty high. He's also a really young sophomore who doesn't turn 20 until late August.

ESPN currently has him 20th on their big board.
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Post#158 » by Knightro » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:44 am

drsd wrote:For Orlando, I am hoping for either RJ Hampton or Precious Achiuwa. Either looks to be competent rotational players off of the bench. And that is what Orlando should be aiming for in the 15-18 range.


I just cannot possibly get behind drafting another natural PF like Achiuwa with Isaac and Okeke on board and presumably going nowhere.

Not to mention Gordon and Aminu still around too, although either one of them could get traded this offseason and I wouldn't bat an eye.
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Post#159 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:30 pm

Knightro wrote:A guy I'm REALLY starting to like for the Magic at 15 is Devin Vassell of Florida State.

Super efficient shooting numbers. Defensive metrics are pretty high. He's also a really young sophomore who doesn't turn 20 until late August.

ESPN currently has him 20th on their big board.

someone will take him higher than 16th especially in a meh draft. Dude is a bonafide scorer and has the NBA size. I've seen him as early as 9 on a few boards. Most have him landing 9-13 in the Washington, Phoenix, Sac, NOLA Spurs range.
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Post#160 » by Knightro » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:36 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:someone will take him higher than 16th especially in a meh draft. Dude is a bonafide scorer and has the NBA size. I've seen him as early as 9 on a few boards. Most have him landing 9-13 in the Washington, Phoenix, Sac, NOLA Spurs range.


I'm not convinced he has the ball handling chops to be a bonafide scorer, but I still like his game overall.

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