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TheSuzerain wrote:Mannion pick would be dull as hell.
You can find a Mannion every year in free agency for a bit more than the MLE.
Nikola wrote:I'm really surprised Wiseman is not considered the clear cut number one pick. He clearly has all of the tools of a traditional center while mobile enough to run the floor and switch on defense a bit. His post up game needs work but I wouldn't say he is raw.
TheSuzerain wrote:Chi town wrote:TheSuzerain wrote:Mannion pick would be dull as hell.
You can find a Mannion every year in free agency for a bit more than the MLE.
Hahaha. What an awful take. Mannion is a pure PG that will be better than Lonzo and what we need more than anything since Pax decided to go all in on bigs that need to be setup in an era of wings that create.
What we need more than anything is to abandon the idea of building the team to cater to the bigs we drafted too high.
MeloRoseNoah wrote:Nikola wrote:I'm really surprised Wiseman is not considered the clear cut number one pick. He clearly has all of the tools of a traditional center while mobile enough to run the floor and switch on defense a bit. His post up game needs work but I wouldn't say he is raw.
Not a playmaker and limited offensive upside
His best hope is to be Dwight Howard and his body is 3 years away from that.
Very stiff and uncoordinated. He’s not Embiid.
Benedict Miller wrote:MeloRoseNoah wrote:Nikola wrote:I'm really surprised Wiseman is not considered the clear cut number one pick. He clearly has all of the tools of a traditional center while mobile enough to run the floor and switch on defense a bit. His post up game needs work but I wouldn't say he is raw.
Not a playmaker and limited offensive upside
His best hope is to be Dwight Howard and his body is 3 years away from that.
Very stiff and uncoordinated. He’s not Embiid.
Ball is very talented, Edwards big time talent, but I'm taking Wiseman and I'm not thinking twice about it. Wiseman showed me something with his intelligence on the defensive end to go with his size. This kid knows how to play like a big.
MeloRoseNoah wrote:Benedict Miller wrote:MeloRoseNoah wrote:
Not a playmaker and limited offensive upside
His best hope is to be Dwight Howard and his body is 3 years away from that.
Very stiff and uncoordinated. He’s not Embiid.
Ball is very talented, Edwards big time talent, but I'm taking Wiseman and I'm not thinking twice about it. Wiseman showed me something with his intelligence on the defensive end to go with his size. This kid knows how to play like a big.
Andre Drummond can do the same thing for a late lottery pick.
Chi town wrote:I think this draft is a crapshoot with a lot of high ceiling players with low floors. I don’t see any Morant Zion Luka ceilings but I see a lot of Trae Yiung ceilings. Ball, Edwards, Avidija
MeloRoseNoah wrote:Nikola wrote:I'm really surprised Wiseman is not considered the clear cut number one pick. He clearly has all of the tools of a traditional center while mobile enough to run the floor and switch on defense a bit. His post up game needs work but I wouldn't say he is raw.
Not a playmaker and limited offensive upside
His best hope is to be Dwight Howard and his body is 3 years away from that.
Very stiff and uncoordinated. He’s not Embiid.
AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:It’s time to take a harder look at Kira Lewis Jr imo. He dropped 37-4-7 on Georgia yesterday and has scored in double digits in 14 straight games. He’s long and super twitchy. And, despite being a sophomore, he doesn’t turn 19 until April (did he skip a grade?). His game and frame remind me a lot of D’Aaron Fox.
imagge wrote:AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:It’s time to take a harder look at Kira Lewis Jr imo. He dropped 37-4-7 on Georgia yesterday and has scored in double digits in 14 straight games. He’s long and super twitchy. And, despite being a sophomore, he doesn’t turn 19 until April (did he skip a grade?). His game and frame remind me a lot of D’Aaron Fox.
Didn’t really skip a grade by NCAA and AHSAA (Alabama) he had all the requisite classes needed to graduate by his Jr summer. He reclassed up to 2018 originally being a 2019 kid. He is still growing but has been super skilled since the 7th grade. Yes I believe he will be the Don Mitch of this class.
League Circles wrote:I never ever say this unqualified, because of how stupid it is, but well, I'm desperate enough as a fan to feel stupid:
If the Bulls don't win a lottery pick (top 4 or 4 I can't remember the new rules), and instead pick according to record (roughly 10th let's say), I would advocate trading the pick and whatever else is needed from among our other pieces like Coby, Lauri, Thad, Otto, and Sato to get virtually any good player in the league. I don't think the culture of our team can afford another medicore prospect who needs time and who we won't know what we have for a few years. No sir. Superstar level prospect or trade the pick IMO.
Ball4life32 wrote:Chi town wrote:I think this draft is a crapshoot with a lot of high ceiling players with low floors. I don’t see any Morant Zion Luka ceilings but I see a lot of Trae Yiung ceilings. Ball, Edwards, Avidija
Trae’s averaging 29/9/5 on near elite efficiency at 21 year old. Don’t see anyone close to that ceiling.MeloRoseNoah wrote:Nikola wrote:I'm really surprised Wiseman is not considered the clear cut number one pick. He clearly has all of the tools of a traditional center while mobile enough to run the floor and switch on defense a bit. His post up game needs work but I wouldn't say he is raw.
Not a playmaker and limited offensive upside
His best hope is to be Dwight Howard and his body is 3 years away from that.
Very stiff and uncoordinated. He’s not Embiid.
Wiseman is more skilled than Dwight at the same stage. He isn’t a playmaker (how many C’s are?) but Wiseman doesn’t have limited offensive upside imo.