Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins

[Marvin Martian]

Well you changed the question but i would have kept Dlo for the time being and made Klay play the 3. Dlo relieves curry of ball handling duties on offense. Remember, Iggy and Livingston is no longer there and klay creates for no one.

That’s crazy. GSW can’t play DLo next to Curry. SGs would destroy them.

Your bias is showing so I’ve made my point:

You refuse to even discuss the point if Wiggins is the 4th best player on your team then you’re looking pretty good.

It’s a simple enough point to acknowledge.

You don’t want to.

It will be acknowledged in NBA games whether you like it or not.

Well of course I have a bias, Wiggins is not good that's no secret . And I would have like to see curry next to DLo to see if it would or wouldn't have worked. They played 4 games together but not only that, the team is a G league team. That deal could have been made at anytime. There's a reason golden state is being killed for doing this deal. I Definately wouldn't want him on the Lakers as my fourth best player, I'll keep Danny green for half the price.

This. Why trade Dlo without seeing if he could play with Curry and Klay? Dlo is a better gamble than Wiggins at this point.

Not to mention that by making the Dlo deal, MIN is showing that they have no intention to tank, so you can bet that pick isn't going to be worth much

[xdrta+]

That’s crazy. GSW can’t play DLo next to Curry. SGs would destroy them.

Your bias is showing so I’ve made my point:

You refuse to even discuss the point if Wiggins is the 4th best player on your team then you’re looking pretty good.

It’s a simple enough point to acknowledge.

You don’t want to.

It will be acknowledged in NBA games whether you like it or not.

Well of course I have a bias, Wiggins is not good that's no secret . And I would have like to see curry next to DLo to see if it would or wouldn't have worked. They played 4 games together but not only that, the team is a G league team. That deal could have been made at anytime. There's a reason golden state is being killed for doing this deal. I Definately wouldn't want him on the Lakers as my fourth best player, I'll keep Danny green for half the price.

This. Why trade Dlo without seeing if he could play with Curry and Klay? Dlo is a better gamble than Wiggins at this point.

Not to mention that by making the Dlo deal, MIN is showing that they have no intention to tank, so you can bet that pick isn't going to be worth much

You might bet that. I would bet that it's a nice, juicy pick.

[GregOden]

Wiggin's isn't as good of a shooter or rebounder than Barnes. Seems like they want to re-run that 2015 team except they lost Iggy, Green is a corpse, and they have a poor-mans Harrison Barnes.

[spikeslovechild]

I suppose im a little biased since I watch all their games, but yea DLo has been awful. They have 12 wins for a reason

Their 2nd leading scorer was Alec Burks, a guy on a minimum contract who is now on his 5th team in 1.5 years. Their 3rd leading scorer is Eric Paschall, a rookie 2nd rounder. Their 4th leading scorer was Glenn Robinson, yet another minimum contract player now on his 4th team in 3 years.

I'm not a huge DLO fan, but the Warriors losing has little to do with him.

They were 1-6 with Steph Curry and Draymond healthy at start of season, DLo has been a loser his whole career

Didn't the Nets make the playoffs last year?

[rugbyrugger23]

I seriously don't understand how they couldn't get Covington, an actual nba player, instead of Wiggins. On paper this is one of the worst trades possibly in nba history, but certainly of the last decade.

Covington isn't going to move the needle. They need someone who can stay on the floor athletically with elite wings. He doesn't have to be more than a #3 or 4 scorer to succeed. If they can work on his jumper and get him to play some D, it can work.

It's not exciting like acquiring Simmons or whatever but this is a bet on the pre-KD dubs roster. I don't know why people are upset isn't what you wanted for GSW to not try and raid Giannis / Simmons and just run back in 2021 with the original big 3 plus help?

Covington + Dieng was the best trade Warriors could ask for. No one (here) will ever know if offered or if denied.

Even if you don’t think Covington was perfect fit — he was great fit. And much better fit than Wiggins.

Dieng as expiring salary filler + 2020 Dubs Top 3 FRP would get Warriors another player they really want — maybe even another wing that would result in Covington’s near MLE value contract being 6th man. Who knows.

Personally, Warriors should have offered:
Russell + Paschall (assuming Wolves like him as PF next to Towns)

FOR

Covington + Dieng + 2021 Wolves FRP (top 3

Then went after about anyone with:
Dieng (expiring) + 2020 Own Top 3 + 2021 Wolves FRP + FFRP as needed.

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give it time. many will be surprised by how great wiggins is.

[rzzzzz]

isn't Sam Hinkie still teaching at Palo Alto. he really courted Wiggins hard for Philly, before drafting Embiid. and doing a great job getting JoJo through some really rough circumstances, while getting that foot repaired and encouraging him to work on the outside shot. just before getting knifed in the back by Silver and Jerry.
what makes Wiggins such a clown is all that wasted talent. if someone could get through to him to put in the work, he would be a fantastic fit for the Warriors. (i got to assume they had enough time to get a good read on DLo.)

[dhsilv2]

I seriously don't understand how they couldn't get Covington, an actual nba player, instead of Wiggins. On paper this is one of the worst trades possibly in nba history, but certainly of the last decade.

Covington isn't going to move the needle. They need someone who can stay on the floor athletically with elite wings. He doesn't have to be more than a #3 or 4 scorer to succeed. If they can work on his jumper and get him to play some D, it can work.

It's not exciting like acquiring Simmons or whatever but this is a bet on the pre-KD dubs roster. I don't know why people are upset isn't what you wanted for GSW to not try and raid Giannis / Simmons and just run back in 2021 with the original big 3 plus help?

Covington is a top 60 player in the nba, wiggins isn't a top 100 guy....

[Black Jack]

I seriously don't understand how they couldn't get Covington, an actual nba player, instead of Wiggins. On paper this is one of the worst trades possibly in nba history, but certainly of the last decade.

Covington isn't going to move the needle. They need someone who can stay on the floor athletically with elite wings. He doesn't have to be more than a #3 or 4 scorer to succeed. If they can work on his jumper and get him to play some D, it can work.

It's not exciting like acquiring Simmons or whatever but this is a bet on the pre-KD dubs roster. I don't know why people are upset isn't what you wanted for GSW to not try and raid Giannis / Simmons and just run back in 2021 with the original big 3 plus help?

Covington is a top 60 player in the nba, wiggins isn't a top 100 guy....

In this case I think the Warriors believe they can unlock potential. Covington is a great role player, we know what he is. Wiggins has the athleticism to improve. Plugging him into an elite system with elite players (when healthy) having the potential to evolve his game, is presumably the bet. Plus they got a pick.

[dhsilv2]

Covington isn't going to move the needle. They need someone who can stay on the floor athletically with elite wings. He doesn't have to be more than a #3 or 4 scorer to succeed. If they can work on his jumper and get him to play some D, it can work.

It's not exciting like acquiring Simmons or whatever but this is a bet on the pre-KD dubs roster. I don't know why people are upset isn't what you wanted for GSW to not try and raid Giannis / Simmons and just run back in 2021 with the original big 3 plus help?

Covington is a top 60 player in the nba, wiggins isn't a top 100 guy....

In this case I think the Warriors believe they can unlock potential. Covington is a great role player, we know what he is. Wiggins has the athleticism to improve. Plugging him into an elite system with elite players (when healthy) having the potential to evolve his game, is presumably the bet. Plus they got a pick.

So you have a great player who you know is great and a bad player who you hope can be great. Why not just take the great player?

[Knicks7Tape]

Has Wiggins even had a proper PG? He's had some talent around him but playing with Steph and Draymond will be interesting next month.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

That’s crazy. GSW can’t play DLo next to Curry. SGs would destroy them.

Your bias is showing so I’ve made my point:

You refuse to even discuss the point if Wiggins is the 4th best player on your team then you’re looking pretty good.

It’s a simple enough point to acknowledge.

You don’t want to.

It will be acknowledged in NBA games whether you like it or not.

Well of course I have a bias, Wiggins is not good that's no secret . And I would have like to see curry next to DLo to see if it would or wouldn't have worked. They played 4 games together but not only that, the team is a G league team. That deal could have been made at anytime. There's a reason golden state is being killed for doing this deal. I Definately wouldn't want him on the Lakers as my fourth best player, I'll keep Danny green for half the price.

This. Why trade Dlo without seeing if he could play with Curry and Klay? Dlo is a better gamble than Wiggins at this point.

Not to mention that by making the Dlo deal, MIN is showing that they have no intention to tank, so you can bet that pick isn't going to be worth much

I mean I wouldn't bet my life savings on Minnesota being good and their pick being worthless. It's kind of like the knicks when they try to be somewhat good, usually something blows up and they're completely awful. The raptors were like that for a long long time too.

You could also say picking up DLo is not much of a first step towards competency. We shalt see!

[Tim Reynolds]

That's doesn't mean they were willing without sending salary or getting a pick back.

then don't do the trade, that's part of the negotiation. either they take Iggy, who is an asset all to himself essentially for free, or walk away. the idea that we NEEDED to give Dlo 30mil a pop is nonsensical.

we ended up essentially trading Justise Winslow/2024 FRP for Wiggins/2021 FRP...Myers got his clock cleaned.

That's a ridiculous way of looking at this, unless you knew the future and could predict Steph's injury. It's also short sighted.

When the trade was made last year Steph wasn't hurt, Warriors were thought to be fighting for a playoff spot, and had a thin and aging roster. Myers rightly decided that getting a young asset was an improvement over a washed up Iggy. The roster badly needed an injection of talent while the window to challenge for a title is still open, and 2024 pick doesn't do that. 2021 pick, potentially does, so in terms of helping to compete right now, 2012 FRP in the deepest draft in a while >>>> 2014 FRP.

Also, you're making Winslow out to be a star player. He's an average starter at best who was just traded for 1 year of Iggy, which speaks volumes about his value. Salaries don't matter as the Warriors are capped out in the near future regardless.
Having Wiggins gives Warriors a 3rd scoring option which was lacking in the past couple of seasons, and also gives them a large contract that can be packaged with picks if a right player is available. Just keeping Iggy would have left Warriors with no options other than try to fill the roster with vet min guys.

Ummm..........

Uhhh.......


We kinda sorta maybe have had the third scoring option covered the last couple seasons with Klay Thompson. Or did you forget we had KD and Curry?

[Klomp]

Has Wiggins even had a proper PG? He's had some talent around him but playing with Steph and Draymond will be interesting next month.

Not superstars, but he's played with a couple solid ones in Ricky Rubio and Tyus Jones.

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Has Wiggins even had a proper PG? He's had some talent around him but playing with Steph and Draymond will be interesting next month.

Not superstars, but he's played with a couple solid ones in Ricky Rubio and Tyus Jones.

so no

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even butler couldn't do anything in minny. give wiggins time to adjust and he will surprise many.

[zimpy27]

Why do people think Wiggins is great? We've had 6 years of data to tell is otherwise. What is this being based on?

When Curry/Klay are back I'd expect Wiggins to put up 12/5/3. He will be similarly effective as Will Barton. What are the expectations of others?

[Ayt]

Has Wiggins even had a proper PG? He's had some talent around him but playing with Steph and Draymond will be interesting next month.

Not superstars, but he's played with a couple solid ones in Ricky Rubio and Tyus Jones.

so no

Rubio has always been very good at setting up teammates.

[TheProdigy]

give it time. many will be surprised by how great wiggins is.

Give it time? We've been waiting 6 years for Wiggs to show some consistency. How much longer do we need to wait before we see "how great wiggins is"? LOL

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give it time. many will be surprised by how great wiggins is.

Give it time? We've been waiting 6 years for Wiggs to show some consistency. How much longer do we need to wait before we see "how great wiggins is"? LOL

1 team
1 system

smitch still believes in him.

the team had rubio, teague (in all star form from the hawks), lavine, towns, butler.

nothing worked. This time ppl will give him the benefit of the doubt. san fran is a big market. if he can succeed there he will get his due.