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Ramed Nazored wrote:Randle McMurphy’s McCaw fetish should be the subject of intense psychoanalytic exploration.
It’s fascinating stuff.
2019nbachamps wrote:RapsFanInVA wrote:We need 100+ pages on McCaw by season's end to return to vintage Raptors RealGM. He's a flawed, approximately replacement level backup guard who won't be in the playoff rotation unless there are injuries.
Yes he will be in the playoff rotation. Nurse is that obsessed with him. RHJ, Thomas, Boucher won't play much. My huge fear is TD won't play much either.
Alfred wrote:Ramed Nazored wrote:Randle McMurphy’s McCaw fetish should be the subject of intense psychoanalytic exploration.
It’s fascinating stuff.
Randle McMurphy and I are like Mugatu from Zoolander where nobody else notices that Blue Steel, Le Tigre and Ferrari are all the same look. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills!
Ramed Nazored wrote:Alfred wrote:Ramed Nazored wrote:Randle McMurphy’s McCaw fetish should be the subject of intense psychoanalytic exploration.
It’s fascinating stuff.
Randle McMurphy and I are like Mugatu from Zoolander where nobody else notices that Blue Steel, Le Tigre and Ferrari are all the same look. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills!
The power of McCaw compels you! The power of McCaw compels you!
Randle McMurphy wrote:Kevin Willis wrote:It's being picky with words but he's "NBA caliber" right now even if he's out the league in a couple of years.
Perhaps he's a "NBA caliber" player in the same way that guys like Chris Jeffries and Luke Jackson were for this organization, but the real point of this thread was always that McCaw shouldn't have been playing minutes for this team when far superior options were on the bench behind him. That hasn't changed.
Yeezus_ wrote:McCaw hate is so weird. He plays limited minutes, plays defense, has a high IQ and doesnt turn the ball over.
He’s still young and the Raptors clearly want to develop him because they like his skillset.
Johnny Bball wrote:Randle McMurphy wrote:Kevin Willis wrote:It's being picky with words but he's "NBA caliber" right now even if he's out the league in a couple of years.
Perhaps he's a "NBA caliber" player in the same way that guys like Chris Jeffries and Luke Jackson were for this organization, but the real point of this thread was always that McCaw shouldn't have been playing minutes for this team when far superior options were on the bench behind him. That hasn't changed.
Just keep moving those goalposts I guess. Maybe change the thread title then.
Randle McMurphy wrote:Johnny Bball wrote:Randle McMurphy wrote:
I love how this post completely ignores that McCaw was playing 25-30 minutes a game for no reason at all even before Powell, Gasol, and Siakam went down.
https://www.espn.com/nba/game?gameId=401160702
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401161023
https://www.espn.com/nba/game?gameId=401161037
https://www.espn.com/nba/game?gameId=401161050
Except Powell INS'T playing now. And you're still complaining about it, ignoring that the fact these three guys are hurt like it is status quo.
Maybe move on to some other thing to complain about until there's an option. Because right now there isn't and it seems like you haven't noticed there's a reason he started the last few and have been posting about rotations and McCaw the last few.
And we're going to completely ignore that we got one guard back while losing another as being even remotely relevant.
Play Davis more, play RHJ more, play Boucher more. All of those guys have shown themselves to be NBA level contributors. This shouldn’t be this hard.
Yeezus_ wrote:McCaw hate is so weird. He plays limited minutes, plays defense, has a high IQ and doesnt turn the ball over.
He’s still young and the Raptors clearly want to develop him because they like his skillset.
Randle McMurphy wrote:Johnny Bball wrote:Randle McMurphy wrote:Perhaps he's a "NBA caliber" player in the same way that guys like Chris Jeffries and Luke Jackson were for this organization, but the real point of this thread was always that McCaw shouldn't have been playing minutes for this team when far superior options were on the bench behind him. That hasn't changed.
Just keep moving those goalposts I guess. Maybe change the thread title then.
Goal posts? This below was literally a post of mine made on December 26th, the day after the thread was created. It was the same issue then as it was now (the awful McCaw playing far more than superior options). That's why the thread was created, that's what matters still going forward, and that's what has been debated consistently here since its creation, not whether Patrick McCaw meets some kind of definition of "NBA caliber" (which I would still contend that he doesn't based on my own interpretation of the term).Randle McMurphy wrote:Johnny Bball wrote:
Except Powell INS'T playing now. And you're still complaining about it, ignoring that the fact these three guys are hurt like it is status quo.
Maybe move on to some other thing to complain about until there's an option. Because right now there isn't and it seems like you haven't noticed there's a reason he started the last few and have been posting about rotations and McCaw the last few.
And we're going to completely ignore that we got one guard back while losing another as being even remotely relevant.
Play Davis more, play RHJ more, play Boucher more. All of those guys have shown themselves to be NBA level contributors. This shouldn’t be this hard.
Randle McMurphy wrote:Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player.
That’s it. That’s the thread.
Randle McMurphy wrote:You're right, wouldn't want to move those posts. Perhaps a more accurate title would be "Patrick McCaw is an awful NBA basketball player who has been completely overplayed by Nick Nurse and has no business playing a single minute for a Raptors team that has multiple vastly superior bench options who outclass him in every way possible." I'll be sure to get on that.
RapsFanInVA wrote:We need 100+ pages on McCaw by season's end to return to vintage Raptors RealGM. He's a flawed, approximately replacement level backup guard who won't be in the playoff rotation unless there are injuries.
Johnny Bball wrote:RapsFanInVA wrote:We need 100+ pages on McCaw by season's end to return to vintage Raptors RealGM. He's a flawed, approximately replacement level backup guard who won't be in the playoff rotation unless there are injuries.
Minus 2 is replacement level in VORP. So, no.
Ramed Nazored wrote:2019nbachamps wrote:RapsFanInVA wrote:We need 100+ pages on McCaw by season's end to return to vintage Raptors RealGM. He's a flawed, approximately replacement level backup guard who won't be in the playoff rotation unless there are injuries.
Yes he will be in the playoff rotation. Nurse is that obsessed with him. RHJ, Thomas, Boucher won't play much. My huge fear is TD won't play much either.
The only people obsessed with Patrick McCaw are posters on this message board. I doubt Nurse sits around writing tomes on McCaw.
In fact, the only place I’ve ever seen him mentioned with any measure of passion is here, on this board. No one cares about McCaw because he’s a non issue. He’s literally the most unassuming, nondescript dude ever. I’ve never even heard him speak. He comes in, does his job for a few minutes, and sits. That’s it.
He’s become an object on which posters of this board project neurotic preoccupations and unexamined insecurities. It’s a fascinating window into the human condition. Really interesting stuff.
KrazyP wrote:Whats really fascinating is the line drawn in the sand between posters that are oblivious and those who are not.
McCaw has been ahead of TD in the rotation for the majority of the season. Anybody who doesn't recognize this as a potential problem is blind.
KrazyP wrote:Ramed Nazored wrote:2019nbachamps wrote:
Yes he will be in the playoff rotation. Nurse is that obsessed with him. RHJ, Thomas, Boucher won't play much. My huge fear is TD won't play much either.
The only people obsessed with Patrick McCaw are posters on this message board. I doubt Nurse sits around writing tomes on McCaw.
In fact, the only place I’ve ever seen him mentioned with any measure of passion is here, on this board. No one cares about McCaw because he’s a non issue. He’s literally the most unassuming, nondescript dude ever. I’ve never even heard him speak. He comes in, does his job for a few minutes, and sits. That’s it.
He’s become an object on which posters of this board project neurotic preoccupations and unexamined insecurities. It’s a fascinating window into the human condition. Really interesting stuff.
Whats really fascinating is the line drawn in the sand between posters that are oblivious and those who are not.
McCaw has been ahead of TD in the rotation for the majority of the season. Anybody who doesn't recognize this as a potential problem is blind.
Gold Dragon wrote:KrazyP wrote:Whats really fascinating is the line drawn in the sand between posters that are oblivious and those who are not.
McCaw has been ahead of TD in the rotation for the majority of the season. Anybody who doesn't recognize this as a potential problem is blind.
McCaw being ahead of TD for a majority of the season has been such a big problem that we are the #3 seed in the league, have a historical 14 game win streak going and TD is developing into a top 3 rookie this season. Disaster.
SHFT wrote:
IMO this has nothing to do with Nurses thoughts on McCaw vs TD. McCaw is a stop gap to allow TD (now that he has officially arrived on scene) to grow at his own pace with no pressure. Being blind is not looking at the big picture.
KrazyP wrote:Ramed Nazored wrote:2019nbachamps wrote:
Yes he will be in the playoff rotation. Nurse is that obsessed with him. RHJ, Thomas, Boucher won't play much. My huge fear is TD won't play much either.
The only people obsessed with Patrick McCaw are posters on this message board. I doubt Nurse sits around writing tomes on McCaw.
In fact, the only place I’ve ever seen him mentioned with any measure of passion is here, on this board. No one cares about McCaw because he’s a non issue. He’s literally the most unassuming, nondescript dude ever. I’ve never even heard him speak. He comes in, does his job for a few minutes, and sits. That’s it.
He’s become an object on which posters of this board project neurotic preoccupations and unexamined insecurities. It’s a fascinating window into the human condition. Really interesting stuff.
Whats really fascinating is the line drawn in the sand between posters that are oblivious and those who are not.
McCaw has been ahead of TD in the rotation for the majority of the season. Anybody who doesn't recognize this as a potential problem is blind.
Ramed Nazored wrote:KrazyP wrote:Ramed Nazored wrote:
The only people obsessed with Patrick McCaw are posters on this message board. I doubt Nurse sits around writing tomes on McCaw.
In fact, the only place I’ve ever seen him mentioned with any measure of passion is here, on this board. No one cares about McCaw because he’s a non issue. He’s literally the most unassuming, nondescript dude ever. I’ve never even heard him speak. He comes in, does his job for a few minutes, and sits. That’s it.
He’s become an object on which posters of this board project neurotic preoccupations and unexamined insecurities. It’s a fascinating window into the human condition. Really interesting stuff.
Whats really fascinating is the line drawn in the sand between posters that are oblivious and those who are not.
McCaw has been ahead of TD in the rotation for the majority of the season. Anybody who doesn't recognize this as a potential problem is blind.
Totally, had McCaw not been ahead of TD in the rotation all those games, we might even be on a 14 game win streak ATM. We might even be second in the east and third best in the entire league.
RapsFanInVA wrote:Johnny Bball wrote:RapsFanInVA wrote:We need 100+ pages on McCaw by season's end to return to vintage Raptors RealGM. He's a flawed, approximately replacement level backup guard who won't be in the playoff rotation unless there are injuries.
Minus 2 is replacement level in VORP. So, no.
Fine, his VORP is 0.2 this season and a career 0.0. That puts him last amongst Raptors players with >500 minutes this season, behind Lowry, VanVleet, Davis, and Powell who should all play ahead of McCaw in the backcourt rotation when all are healthy.