Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins

[Klomp]

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Wiggins should bring the crowd to their feet . TWolves had both Wiggins and Lavine???!!!???!!!

If that's the Wiggins you're expecting, prepare to be disappointed. Unless he suddenly started to care about dunking again....

[Mylie10]

I'm just looking for Wiggins to follow a few simple rules.

With Steph and Klay out there on offense, I don't need him isoing and taking contested shots. Those are bad shots when you have Steph or Klay to take them otherwise. Open looks and an occasional end of shot clock need to iso is fine.

But the Warriors run a ball movement system. Hearing lots of talk about the point guard making Anrew accountable. Actually all he has to do is run the break, catch lobs, back door cuts, cuts and drive into the lane with kick outs or finishes, and then of course take the open shots. And or course move the ball. Everyone touches the ball on the Warriors, so there literally no need to feel the weight of the entire offense on his shoulders.

On defense he needs to merely buy into the defensive scheme. This will be the biggest issue. He must learn the rotations or Draymond will light him up. Draymond will help him these next 30 games to know where to be. But next season if Anrew isn't getting it, or being to lazy to rotate properly, then things may sour.

The good thing about the Warriors staff, is that you have Ron Adams, their defensive guru who will be working with him off the court. Also up and coming coach Jarron Collins will help him with next game defensive matchups and assignments. Then you have Kerr, who's a really good communicator, who will hold him accountable. Finally Draymond on the floor.

So don't force on offense, and follow the game plan on defense. Do that with effort and I'm cool.

[low]

The Warriors are betting on themselves to get the best out of Wiggins and they have a pretty good track record of doing so. This season Chriss is remaking himself, GR3 and Burks were having their best seasons. In the past they took JaVale who was a punchline and won titles with him. Now on the other hand, they couldn’t get through to Nick Young in the past and couldn’t get DLo to care about defense this year. Wiggins has to want it for himself but he will never have a better chance to change the league’s impression of him.

Right, the Warriors have a great track record of it which makes this trade very interesting. To me its comical, Wiggins in a lineup with three great NBA players. It will be interesting what Curry, Klay and Green's opinion of Wiggins is. Its sort of the only left for me to find out. Just prepare yourself for lots of smiles.

WE just had too many years here of hype, retrying and putting a good face on it. Whats wrong with Andrew Wiggins got to be the theme of the whole team.

[Mylie10]

The Warriors are betting on themselves to get the best out of Wiggins and they have a pretty good track record of doing so. This season Chriss is remaking himself, GR3 and Burks were having their best seasons. In the past they took JaVale who was a punchline and won titles with him. Now on the other hand, they couldn’t get through to Nick Young in the past and couldn’t get DLo to care about defense this year. Wiggins has to want it for himself but he will never have a better chance to change the league’s impression of him.

Right, the Warriors have a great track record of it which makes this trade very interesting. To me its comical, Wiggins in a lineup with three great NBA players. It will be interesting what Curry, Klay and Green's opinion of Wiggins is. Its sort of the only left for me to find out. Just prepare yourself for lots of smiles.

WE just had too many years here of hype, retrying and putting a good face on it. Whats wrong with Andrew Wiggins got to be the theme of the whole team.

Not trying to spark any hate towards Minnesota, but let's be honest.....5 coaches in 6 years. Very little team identity throughout. Thibs gave the team a toughness and grit. But Thibs is also the type of coach who doesn't give his teams freedom. Some players like that, some don't. The constant yelling had to wear on certain guys.

The Warriors have an identity and system. It will allow Wiggins to be a piece and not the weight of being the Franchise savior.

[mplsfonz23]

I'm just looking for Wiggins to follow a few simple rules.

With Steph and Klay out there on offense, I don't need him isoing and taking contested shots. Those are bad shots when you have Steph or Klay to take them otherwise. Open looks and an occasional end of shot clock need to iso is fine.

But the Warriors run a ball movement system. Hearing lots of talk about the point guard making Anrew accountable. Actually all he has to do is run the break, catch lobs, back door cuts, cuts and drive into the lane with kick outs or finishes, and then of course take the open shots. And or course move the ball. Everyone touches the ball on the Warriors, so there literally no need to feel the weight of the entire offense on his shoulders.

On defense he needs to merely buy into the defensive scheme. This will be the biggest issue. He must learn the rotations or Draymond will light him up. Draymond will help him these next 30 games to know where to be. But next season if Anrew isn't getting it, or being to lazy to rotate properly, then things may sour.

The good thing about the Warriors staff, is that you have Ron Adams, their defensive guru who will be working with him off the court. Also up and coming coach Jarron Collins will help him with next game defensive matchups and assignments. Then you have Kerr, who's a really good communicator, who will hold him accountable. Finally Draymond on the floor.

So don't force on offense, and follow the game plan on defense. Do that with effort and I'm cool.

There within lies the problem.
I see Wiggins giving good effort for a few games, but once he feels comfortable he (IMO) will revert back to lazy BBall.
I wonder how long does your team holds him accountable? How many times will he need motivation?

Think of it this way....You know the determination and passion Kobe had for the game? Think the opposite and that's Wiggins.

[Mylie10]

I'm just looking for Wiggins to follow a few simple rules.

With Steph and Klay out there on offense, I don't need him isoing and taking contested shots. Those are bad shots when you have Steph or Klay to take them otherwise. Open looks and an occasional end of shot clock need to iso is fine.

But the Warriors run a ball movement system. Hearing lots of talk about the point guard making Anrew accountable. Actually all he has to do is run the break, catch lobs, back door cuts, cuts and drive into the lane with kick outs or finishes, and then of course take the open shots. And or course move the ball. Everyone touches the ball on the Warriors, so there literally no need to feel the weight of the entire offense on his shoulders.

On defense he needs to merely buy into the defensive scheme. This will be the biggest issue. He must learn the rotations or Draymond will light him up. Draymond will help him these next 30 games to know where to be. But next season if Anrew isn't getting it, or being to lazy to rotate properly, then things may sour.

The good thing about the Warriors staff, is that you have Ron Adams, their defensive guru who will be working with him off the court. Also up and coming coach Jarron Collins will help him with next game defensive matchups and assignments. Then you have Kerr, who's a really good communicator, who will hold him accountable. Finally Draymond on the floor.

So don't force on offense, and follow the game plan on defense. Do that with effort and I'm cool.

There within lies the problem.
I see Wiggins giving good effort for a few games, but once he feels comfortable he (IMO) will revert back to lazy BBall.
I wonder how long does your team holds him accountable? How many times will he need motivation?

Think of it this way....You know the determination and passion Kobe had for the game? Think the opposite and that's Wiggins.

We know who Wiggins is. I've never wanted the dude in my life, quite the opposite. I'm pointing out the context of the current situation.

The Warriors aren't looking for a savior. It's tram basketball. And Kerr has no problem holding guys accountable. If Wiggins is doing his own thing out there, then they will sit him when it counts. ....contract be damned.

They need him to be a piece, not the face. He will fall into 18-20 points per easily. Also some guys tend to mature around age 25. Let's see.

And no one.....I mean no one is expecting him to have the heart and fire of Kobe. That's just so unrealistic, it shouldn't even be a talking point. How many dudes in the league have Kobe's fire?

[mplsfonz23]

We know who Wiggins is. I've never wanted the dude in my life, quite the opposite. I'm pointing out the context of the current situation.

The Warriors aren't looking for a savior. It's tram basketball. And Kerr has no problem holding guys accountable. If Wiggins is doing his own thing out there, then they will sit him when it counts. ....contract be damned.

They need him to be a piece, not the face. He will fall into 18-20 points per easily. Also some guys tend to mature around age 25. Let's see.

And no one.....I mean no one is expecting him to have the heart and fire of Kobe. That's just so unrealistic, it shouldn't even be a talking point. How many dudes in the league have Kobe's fire?

Oh I know he's not Kobe. My point is, he has very little passion for the game.
I think GS will be looking to unload him next summer.
How about this, we KNOW who Wiggins is, and you will too after he settles in. How about we bump this thread in 10-15 games or so?

[Mylie10]

We know who Wiggins is. I've never wanted the dude in my life, quite the opposite. I'm pointing out the context of the current situation.

The Warriors aren't looking for a savior. It's tram basketball. And Kerr has no problem holding guys accountable. If Wiggins is doing his own thing out there, then they will sit him when it counts. ....contract be damned.

They need him to be a piece, not the face. He will fall into 18-20 points per easily. Also some guys tend to mature around age 25. Let's see.

And no one.....I mean no one is expecting him to have the heart and fire of Kobe. That's just so unrealistic, it shouldn't even be a talking point. How many dudes in the league have Kobe's fire?

Oh I know he's not Kobe. My point is, he has very little passion for the game.
I think GS will be looking to unload him next summer.
How about this, we KNOW who Wiggins is, and you will too after he settles in. How about we bump this thread in 10-15 games or so?

You might be right. However you must admit that the context for his game has totally changed by moving to the Warriors.

And what he does in the rest of the games this season doesn't really matter. Next year is what matters because we should be ready to go full squad again. That's where the rubber meets the road.

Also, after watching DLo closely this season I will tell you this....the first time you see him run hard back on defense, will be the first time he's run hard back on defense all year.

DLo ranked 126th out of 128th for his position. Good luck with that. He will get hot at times and score big. He can do that, but it's purely at his speed and in his way. He's not a team guy, he's a me guy.

Based on fit, I'm happy he's gone and we got Minnys first next year. That pick could be epic for us.

But also, I think it was good for Minny to move on from Wiggins and get Town's buddy I'm there. Makes sense.

[funkatron101]

How about this, we KNOW who Wiggins is, and you will too after he settles in. How about we bump this thread in 10-15 games or so?

Everyone knows who Wiggins is. You are not enlightening anyone. They are simply fans who are stuck having to root for an expensive under-performer and are hoping for the best. Same as Wolves fans for 6 years.

No need to pat yourself on the back for having some exclusive insight.

[Quentin]

The Warriors are betting on themselves to get the best out of Wiggins and they have a pretty good track record of doing so. This season Chriss is remaking himself, GR3 and Burks were having their best seasons. In the past they took JaVale who was a punchline and won titles with him. Now on the other hand, they couldn’t get through to Nick Young in the past and couldn’t get DLo to care about defense this year. Wiggins has to want it for himself but he will never have a better chance to change the league’s impression of him.

Right, the Warriors have a great track record of it which makes this trade very interesting. To me its comical, Wiggins in a lineup with three great NBA players. It will be interesting what Curry, Klay and Green's opinion of Wiggins is. Its sort of the only left for me to find out. Just prepare yourself for lots of smiles.

WE just had too many years here of hype, retrying and putting a good face on it. Whats wrong with Andrew Wiggins got to be the theme of the whole team.

Not trying to spark any hate towards Minnesota, but let's be honest.....5 coaches in 6 years. Very little team identity throughout. Thibs gave the team a toughness and grit. But Thibs is also the type of coach who doesn't give his teams freedom. Some players like that, some don't. The constant yelling had to wear on certain guys.

The Warriors have an identity and system. It will allow Wiggins to be a piece and not the weight of being the Franchise savior.

That's fine until you look at his contract. That's a lot of dough for a guy who's a 4th wheel. Can't pay that in Minnesota, but if the Warriors can afford it then have fun. You can get a guy like Wiggins for much cheaper.

[John Murdoch]

I think there are people posting here that are misunderstanding Wiggins. His problem is being engaged and interested in the game. When he is, he's amazing. But getting him to maintain that has been the issue. It's not about having a PG, that's laughable. He takes plays, quarters, half's, games, and stretches of games off. Maybe the players on GS will hold him accountable. He's never had that in Minnesota.

haha we said the same about Andrew Bynum . Id rather have to calm a guy down then to have to try and get him energized. The sample size is big enough now to know exactly who and what he is

[Mylie10]

Right, the Warriors have a great track record of it which makes this trade very interesting. To me its comical, Wiggins in a lineup with three great NBA players. It will be interesting what Curry, Klay and Green's opinion of Wiggins is. Its sort of the only left for me to find out. Just prepare yourself for lots of smiles.

WE just had too many years here of hype, retrying and putting a good face on it. Whats wrong with Andrew Wiggins got to be the theme of the whole team.

Not trying to spark any hate towards Minnesota, but let's be honest.....5 coaches in 6 years. Very little team identity throughout. Thibs gave the team a toughness and grit. But Thibs is also the type of coach who doesn't give his teams freedom. Some players like that, some don't. The constant yelling had to wear on certain guys.

The Warriors have an identity and system. It will allow Wiggins to be a piece and not the weight of being the Franchise savior.

That's fine until you look at his contract. That's a lot of dough for a guy who's a 4th wheel. Can't pay that in Minnesota, but if the Warriors can afford it then have fun. You can get a guy like Wiggins for much cheaper.

Actually the salary slot at 30 million is very important if a big time player becomes available. You need to have that to be in the discussion for big name players.

So that salary, plus draft picks and young players is key.

[vagelis]

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[Warriorfan]

Trade saved Warriors from repeater tax 2020 and 2021.

So the potential penalty for a 165 , if they use TPE ,million pay roll gets lessened 70 mil or so.

[KevinMcreynolds]

Trade saved Warriors from repeater tax 2020 and 2021.

So the potential penalty for a 165 , if they use TPE ,million pay roll gets lessened 70 mil or so.

plus we avoid the DLo tax, which is having crappy defense all the time

[xdrta+]

Trade saved Warriors from repeater tax 2020 and 2021.

So the potential penalty for a 165 , if they use TPE ,million pay roll gets lessened 70 mil or so.

plus we avoid the DLo tax, which is having crappy defense all the time

Don't leave out Evans, my favorite part of the whole deal.

[jason bourne]

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Wiggins should bring the crowd to their feet . TWolves had both Wiggins and Lavine???!!!???!!!

If that's the Wiggins you're expecting, prepare to be disappointed. Unless he suddenly started to care about dunking again....

What I'll be looking for is whether he's a beast in transition again. Also, how he's beating his man off the pick and roll. He did well in his first appearance going up against AD. He appears to be able to take contact and still finish as well as use his left hand. I'm still not sold on his 3-pt shooting as well as shooting on the move. He also still is not great in FT shooting. That said, the Ws won't expect him to be another Kobe and be their go to guy. He'll be a solid 3rd option. If he can improve his weaknesses, then he could rise to become an All-Star similar to what Antawn Jameson did. Not a perennial one, but still made it a couple of years. I think he'll be better than Harrison Barnes who never made it even though he's a better 3-pt shooter than Wiggins.

[KevinMcreynolds]

Trade saved Warriors from repeater tax 2020 and 2021.

So the potential penalty for a 165 , if they use TPE ,million pay roll gets lessened 70 mil or so.

plus we avoid the DLo tax, which is having crappy defense all the time

Don't leave out Evans, my favorite part of the whole deal.

not many people realize the entire point of the trade was to get rid of Jacob Evans and his dated haircut

[Quentin]

Not trying to spark any hate towards Minnesota, but let's be honest.....5 coaches in 6 years. Very little team identity throughout. Thibs gave the team a toughness and grit. But Thibs is also the type of coach who doesn't give his teams freedom. Some players like that, some don't. The constant yelling had to wear on certain guys.

The Warriors have an identity and system. It will allow Wiggins to be a piece and not the weight of being the Franchise savior.

That's fine until you look at his contract. That's a lot of dough for a guy who's a 4th wheel. Can't pay that in Minnesota, but if the Warriors can afford it then have fun. You can get a guy like Wiggins for much cheaper.

Actually the salary slot at 30 million is very important if a big time player becomes available. You need to have that to be in the discussion for big name players.

So that salary, plus draft picks and young players is key.

Ha, that's exactly what the Wolves did with him.

[zhenyasj]

Ummm..........

Uhhh.......


We kinda sorta maybe have had the third scoring option covered the last couple seasons with Klay Thompson. Or did you forget we had KD and Curry?

Obviously true, until he got hurt and Warriors became a two man team on offense hoping for 15 points from Iggy.

okay? that happens to everyone that has 1 of their top 3 scorers go down.

What does that have to do with anything? My point was that the offense we saw in the playoffs without KD was painful to watch as no Warrior other than Steph and Klay could consistently hit an outside shot or be considered a threat on the offensive end. The fact that Raptors not just considered but actually ran a box and one defense, something that I don't believe has ever been done in the NBA, especially in the playoffs, says it all.