Buyout Thread: If Celtics get a player in buyout market, who would be cut?

[SLCceltic]

Its about NEED, fit and shoring up weakness where possible for a title run.

Weaknesses:
#1 Scoring droughts
#2a Defending Yanis to get past MIL
#2b Defending Embiid, maybe

Adding another big when DT EK even GW & hopefully Rw3 are playing so well makes 0 sense, unless that Big can shoot pass and create his own shot. No one like that is available right now. Besides, we are a Top5 D and never get killed on the glass!
We do not need to acquire some Defensive Specialist for Yanis because we already have this! Semi, and we still haven't seen much of RW3 taking on freak, is about as good as it gets league-wide!


WHAT WE NEED MOST IS A CLUTCH BENCH SCORER WITH PO EXPERIENCE! This guy can be a ball-handler wing or big, he has be able to shoot, create his own shot and PASS well!! He MUST score consistently for 10-20 mins per game. Lets see who's available and can fill these above needs ....IT is all I see, and with his experience playing in our coaches system the decision to bring him in is a no-brainer .....provided we can live with letting Javonte go.

IT was that 5 years ago, not today.

Cmon man that's a hater response!
We don't need what he was 5 years ago ...we need someone that can knock down shots, esp 3s and move the ball. IT doesn't have do dominate the ball to help us. We need him to KNOCK DOWN SHOTS, move the ball and maybe work to get a basket when the clock is winding down. We need for him to do this for 10-20mins max! We don't need him to run the show, we need for him to knock down shots under PO pressure ....41% this season from 3 plus PO experience, PO achievement (for us) all speak for itself!

[Darth Celtic]

Its about NEED, fit and shoring up weakness where possible for a title run.

Weaknesses:
#1 Scoring droughts
#2a Defending Yanis to get past MIL
#2b Defending Embiid, maybe

Adding another big when DT EK even GW & hopefully Rw3 are playing so well makes 0 sense, unless that Big can shoot pass and create his own shot. No one like that is available right now. Besides, we are a Top5 D and never get killed on the glass!
We do not need to acquire some Defensive Specialist for Yanis because we already have this! Semi, and we still haven't seen much of RW3 taking on freak, is about as good as it gets league-wide!


WHAT WE NEED MOST IS A CLUTCH BENCH SCORER WITH PO EXPERIENCE! This guy can be a ball-handler wing or big, he has be able to shoot, create his own shot and PASS well!! He MUST score consistently for 10-20 mins per game. Lets see who's available and can fill these above needs ....IT is all I see, and with his experience playing in our coaches system the decision to bring him in is a no-brainer .....provided we can live with letting Javonte go.

IT was that 5 years ago, not today.

Cmon man that's a hater response!
We don't need what he was 5 years ago ...we need someone that can knock down shots, esp 3s and move the ball. IT doesn't have do dominate the ball to help us. We need him to KNOCK DOWN SHOTS, move the ball and maybe work to get a basket when the clock is winding down. We need for him to do this for 10-20mins max! We don't need him to run the show, we need for him to knock down shots under PO pressure ....41% this season from 3 plus PO experience, PO achievement (for us) all speak for itself!

Isaiah Thomas Wizards PG 925 -1.1 -5.6 -6.7 -0.5 -5.6 -6.1 -1.0 -5.8 -6.9 -2.0
that's IT's RAPTOR this year, worst on the Wizards team who qualify. You can go to the website and see what all those - mean, but here is the Worst player who has enough mins, Brad Wannamaker.
Brad Wanamaker Celtics PG, SG 953 -0.8 -0.7 -1.5 -2.2 +2.5 +0.3 -1.2 -0.1 -1.3 0.7

Total Raptor of -6.9 to -1.3 with a WAR of -2 to .7.

[SLCceltic]

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I am not some IT diehard pining for the old days. I am a pragmatist that sees a need and a clear solution to fill fill that need. What's more we have already seen him in this System. There is no guess work. Can IT come in and get off 5-10 high percentage shots a game while keeping the ball moving?? Yes!

[themoneyteam2]

Even if you want to argue IT can move the ball and knock down open threes, he also gets annihilated on the defensive end so it ends up being a net negative. There's a reason Washington let him go and the Clippers waived him.

[Bleeding Green]

Mo Harkless is a career 32% 3pt shooter at 6'7" tall and averages 5.5ppg this year in 22mpg. None of that is good.

He's one of the best defenders in the NBA. He's not going to a contender to do anything but be a defensive menace and hit corner threes, make cuts to the basket, etc. Maybe he hits his threes, maybe he doesn't, that's the way she goes. He takes like 1 per game, it's not even that large apart of his game. Being 6'7" isn't good?

[Bill Lumbergh]

Its about NEED, fit and shoring up weakness where possible for a title run.

Weaknesses:
#1 Scoring droughts
#2a Defending Yanis to get past MIL
#2b Defending Embiid, maybe

Adding another big when DT EK even GW & hopefully Rw3 are playing so well makes 0 sense, unless that Big can shoot pass and create his own shot. No one like that is available right now. Besides, we are a Top5 D and never get killed on the glass!
We do not need to acquire some Defensive Specialist for Yanis because we already have this! Semi, and we still haven't seen much of RW3 taking on freak, is about as good as it gets league-wide!


WHAT WE NEED MOST IS A CLUTCH BENCH SCORER WITH PO EXPERIENCE! This guy can be a ball-handler wing or big, he has be able to shoot, create his own shot and PASS well!! He MUST score consistently for 10-20 mins per game. Lets see who's available and can fill these above needs ....IT is all I see, and with his experience playing in our coaches system the decision to bring him in is a no-brainer .....provided we can live with letting Javonte go.

I was right there with you all the way through your post as you diagnosed what the real problem to address was, right until your solution. IT is cooked, in my view. There may well not be an effective scorer out there on the buyout scene. Probably, what we have is what we will go forward with. I'm okay with that. I'd have liked to pick up a scorer at the deadline, but that ship has sailed. In the playoffs, the rotations will tighten, and our perceived bench shortcomings will largely go away because of the short rotations.

[snowman]

only one I can see as far as a guard or wing if he becomes available is Wayne Ellington. 10 min off the bench to pop some 3's and not get totally embarrassed on D.

[CeltsfaninDC]

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I am not some IT diehard pining for the old days. I am a pragmatist that sees a need and a clear solution to fill fill that need. What's more we have already seen him in this System. There is no guess work. Can IT come in and get off 5-10 high percentage shots a game while keeping the ball moving?? Yes!

Serious question: Have you actually seen him play this year? That just not who he is anymore. He was struggling with their second unit in WAS. To paraphrase Pitino, "IT IS NOT COMING THROUGH THAT DOOR."

[Dogen]

only one I can see as far as a guard or wing if he becomes available is Wayne Ellington. 10 min off the bench to pop some 3's and not get totally embarrassed on D.

Spot on. Not the signing I’d hope for but Ellington is a guy who can come in and get hot for a few minutes when others are not. More valuable this year than Green or Edwards.

[Dogen]

And the IT thing is getting into multiple threads again.

Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be,
There may be an answer, but not IT.

Plus if he’s not resigned we’d have to hear all that Danny the Snake BS again.

[darrendaye]

Portis telling the media he isn't open to a buyout. He's one guy I'd want if he was.

[zoyathedestroya]

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[Ed Pinkney]

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Biggest bust of the last 10 years? Is that too harsh?

You obviously want a lot more out of a number two overall pick, a long way off an "all time great".

[zoyathedestroya]

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Biggest bust of the last 10 years? Is that too harsh?

You obviously want a lot more out of a number two overall pick, a long way off an "all time great".

#1 pick Anthony Bennett says Hi. At least MKG can point to injuries derailing his career. And he's at least still in the NBA.

[Ed Pinkney]

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Biggest bust of the last 10 years? Is that too harsh?

You obviously want a lot more out of a number two overall pick, a long way off an "all time great".

#1 pick Anthony Bennett says Hi. At least MKG can point to injuries derailing his career. And he's at least still in the NBA.

Yeah, forgot about Bennett (as most people probably have). I guess one difference would be that most people were down on the Bennett pick from the second it was made, where as with MKG people had pretty high expectations.

[themoneyteam2]

Harkless doesn’t move the needle much but would like to have him on the bench in the Semi role as a defensive 3 or 4 man.

[K For Three]

Its about NEED, fit and shoring up weakness where possible for a title run.

Weaknesses:
#1 Scoring droughts
#2a Defending Yanis to get past MIL
#2b Defending Embiid, maybe

Adding another big when DT EK even GW & hopefully Rw3 are playing so well makes 0 sense, unless that Big can shoot pass and create his own shot. No one like that is available right now. Besides, we are a Top5 D and never get killed on the glass!
We do not need to acquire some Defensive Specialist for Yanis because we already have this! Semi, and we still haven't seen much of RW3 taking on freak, is about as good as it gets league-wide!


WHAT WE NEED MOST IS A CLUTCH BENCH SCORER WITH PO EXPERIENCE! This guy can be a ball-handler wing or big, he has be able to shoot, create his own shot and PASS well!! He MUST score consistently for 10-20 mins per game. Lets see who's available and can fill these above needs ....IT is all I see, and with his experience playing in our coaches system the decision to bring him in is a no-brainer .....provided we can live with letting Javonte go.

IT was that 5 years ago, not today.

Cmon man that's a hater response!
We don't need what he was 5 years ago ...we need someone that can knock down shots, esp 3s and move the ball. IT doesn't have do dominate the ball to help us. We need him to KNOCK DOWN SHOTS, move the ball and maybe work to get a basket when the clock is winding down. We need for him to do this for 10-20mins max! We don't need him to run the show, we need for him to knock down shots under PO pressure ....41% this season from 3 plus PO experience, PO achievement (for us) all speak for itself!

IT is short, chubby and washed up now.

He's like that ex you have that didn't do well after your break up but years later you sometimes still feel a twinge of sympathy for how things ended since they really loved you. Thats IT. And the PG after him was a fling that sometimes was really awesome sexually but you realize that person was really a sociopath.

And then eventually you settle down and meet a Kemba Walker who is a normal PG and get married.

No need to bring back our washed up exes for nostalgia purposes.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Who do you cut for IT? He had horrible luck, I hope he gets a chance somewhere. Could at least give him a coaching or scouting gig someday..

[Andrew McCeltic]

Hope they can at least work out Bender.

[sam_I_am]

Hope they can at least work out Bender.

I absolutely agree and think they should sign him too. You mean the Red Claws right?