Who was more of an ATHLETIC FREAK? Orlando Magic Shaq or Zion

ItsMyPotPie · Post #41 » by **ItsMyPotPie** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:21 pm

Shaq. Taller heavier and still mor athletic.

UcanUwill · Post #42 » by **UcanUwill** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:26 pm

dlts20 wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
Dupp wrote:Shaq is on wilt and lebron god tier. Zion, not so much

LeBron is not on Wilt and Shaq tier at all. His combination of that athleticism with skill and basketbal IQ is what makes him special, but other than durability, I wouldnt call LeBron god tier athlete. I would put ZIon way up LeBron actually.

What... Lol

He had an NBA body in hs and could jump out the gym. At his peak he literally may have been the fastest guy in the league while playing in Karl Malones body, and possibly the ability to be the best PG in the league if needed... Lol

LeBrib is 6'8 super athlete, but we have seen similar level athletes, but none of them had IQ, skill and mentality to be next Lebron, thats what makes LeBron great. Just look how athletic WIggins is, he is nowhere close as strong, but my point is, if Wiggins was a superstar, we would be talking what a great athlete he is, but right now noone even notice his crazy athleticism because he sucks. Thats the way with tons of super athletes who had no skill and mentality to succeed.
Zion is a better athlete than LeBron easily, he is one of those guys who isnt super skllled, but most likely still be superstar just because his athleticism is out of this world.

Bergmaniac · Post #43 » by **Bergmaniac** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:32 pm

Nobody in the world is "easily" a better athlete than prime LeBron, the guy was absolutely ridiculous.

dhsilv2 · Post #44 » by **dhsilv2** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:38 pm

Zion, shaq, and lebron are the most freakish athlete I've seen. Just mutants from another planet...but shaq was something else.

dhsilv2 · Post #45 » by **dhsilv2** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:39 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
dlts20 wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
LeBron is not on Wilt and Shaq tier at all. His combination of that athleticism with skill and basketbal IQ is what makes him special, but other than durability, I wouldnt call LeBron god tier athlete. I would put ZIon way up LeBron actually.

What... Lol

He had an NBA body in hs and could jump out the gym. At his peak he literally may have been the fastest guy in the league while playing in Karl Malones body, and possibly the ability to be the best PG in the league if needed... Lol

LeBrib is 6'8 super athlete, but we have seen similar level athletes, but none of them had IQ, skill and mentality to be next Lebron, thats what makes LeBron great. Just look how athletic WIggins is, he is nowhere close as strong, but my point is, if Wiggins was a superstar, we would be talking what a great athlete he is, but right now noone even notice his crazy athleticism because he sucks. Thats the way with tons of super athletes who had no skill and mentality to succeed.
Zion is a better athlete than LeBron easily, he is one of those guys who isnt super skllled, but most likely still be superstar just because his athleticism is out of this world.

Wiggins has the POTENTIAL to be a great athlete, but his lack of strength keeps him from being elite there. Kids just too weak.

dhsilv2 · Post #46 » by **dhsilv2** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:40 pm

ItsMyPotPie wrote:Shaq. Taller heavier and still mor athletic.

Shaq and Zion were about the same weight...despite the huge height gap.

Baronious · Post #47 » by **Baronious** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:43 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
dlts20 wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
LeBron is not on Wilt and Shaq tier at all. His combination of that athleticism with skill and basketbal IQ is what makes him special, but other than durability, I wouldnt call LeBron god tier athlete. I would put ZIon way up LeBron actually.

What... Lol

He had an NBA body in hs and could jump out the gym. At his peak he literally may have been the fastest guy in the league while playing in Karl Malones body, and possibly the ability to be the best PG in the league if needed... Lol

LeBrib is 6'8 super athlete, but we have seen similar level athletes, but none of them had IQ, skill and mentality to be next Lebron, thats what makes LeBron great. Just look how athletic WIggins is, he is nowhere close as strong, but my point is, if Wiggins was a superstar, we would be talking what a great athlete he is, but right now noone even notice his crazy athleticism because he sucks. Thats the way with tons of super athletes who had no skill and mentality to succeed.
Zion is a better athlete than LeBron easily, he is one of those guys who isnt super skllled, but most likely still be superstar just because his athleticism is out of this world.

This dude obviously never watched Lebron in his athletic prime.

LeBron is the most athletic player of all time. Lol at Zion being more athletic than LeBron.

https://youtu.be/NGXxqhMSkZU

Go watch some of his highlights from 08-09 or 09-10. Zion will never come close to 09 Bron in terms of athleticism.

There is not another player who can do the things Lebron was doing on a night to night basis.

Wiggins literally has no place in this argument. He doesn't even compare..You either have never seen young Bron play or you just have no idea what you're talking about.

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Post #48 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:55 pm

SHaq, because length matters a lot in basketball.

Shaq isthe GOAT physical package for the game of basketball. It's why he had a GOAT level Peak, despite being far and away the least skilled of the top 10 of all time.

OdomFan · Post #49 » by **OdomFan** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:57 pm

Shaq. Zion isn't even ahead of Giannis let alone the Diesel. Come on now.

UcanUwill · Post #50 » by **UcanUwill** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:58 pm

Baronious wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
dlts20 wrote:What... Lol

He had an NBA body in hs and could jump out the gym. At his peak he literally may have been the fastest guy in the league while playing in Karl Malones body, and possibly the ability to be the best PG in the league if needed... Lol

LeBrib is 6'8 super athlete, but we have seen similar level athletes, but none of them had IQ, skill and mentality to be next Lebron, thats what makes LeBron great. Just look how athletic WIggins is, he is nowhere close as strong, but my point is, if Wiggins was a superstar, we would be talking what a great athlete he is, but right now noone even notice his crazy athleticism because he sucks. Thats the way with tons of super athletes who had no skill and mentality to succeed.
Zion is a better athlete than LeBron easily, he is one of those guys who isnt super skllled, but most likely still be superstar just because his athleticism is out of this world.
This dude obviously never watched Lebron in his athletic prime.

LeBron is the most athletic player of all time. Lol at Zion being more athletic than LeBron.

https://youtu.be/NGXxqhMSkZU

Go watch some of his highlights from 08-09 or 09-10. Zion will never come close to 09 Bron in terms of athleticism.

There is not another player who can do the things Lebron was doing on a night to night basis.

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I have watched peak Lebron all the time, I am not 12. But think just finding a 6'8 fast and strong guy is easier than finding the kid like ZIon. Zion is so big and strong and at the same time so explosive, that hasn't been seen in ages, where I think Lebronish type athletes were here and there over the years, they just didnt know how to play. Obviously LeBron is a freak and has Strength advante over mostly everyone that is fast explosive wing, but man, ZIon... Zion is a guy who is so athletic, he might not know how to play yet still be relevant simple because he is god tier athlete. 260 pound men literally bouncing off of him he is so strong.

birdlives_ma · Post #51 » by **birdlives_ma** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:01 pm

TheBullsDynasty wrote:
Green89 wrote:When Zion does this, we'll talk:

Watch on YouTube

They’re all reinforced steel now so that’ll never happen...

Right, because of Shaq, which is kind of the point

Alonzo_Morning · Post #52 » by **Alonzo_Morning** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:02 pm

Why are you referring to Zion in the past tense :oops:

Rappid · Post #53 » by **Rappid** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:21 pm

Alonzo_Morning wrote:Why are you referring to Zion in the past tense

Yup.

Kid is not even 20 yet and played so few games and already showed flashes of not only being an all time athlete but an amazing player.

Laker1 · Post #54 » by **Laker1** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:30 pm

Put it this way. I would take Shaq in a draft over any player who’s ever played not named MJ, and that’s only if I knew ahead of time the player MJ would become. Shaq is 100% more an athletic freak over Zion. I don’t think we will see another player like him at least until we start editing our babies genes and create custom freaks of nature.

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daswunderboy · Post #55 » by **daswunderboy** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:38 pm

Watch on YouTube

;t=95s

Shaq was a beast.

Post #56 » by **DayofMourning** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:44 pm

Zion is awesome. Just awesome. I look forward to amazing every time he plays.

However, Magic Shaq was one of the most incredible athletes of all time. I'm a Zo fan. Love Zo more than any other player. Shaq punked Zo every matchup. Orlando losing Shaq was the most ridiculous thing a franchise could have allowed. A motivated Shaq, in his athletic prime was the center piece of center pieces.

CptCrunch · Post #57 » by **CptCrunch** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:48 pm

Shaq is a rarer player than Zion. For his size, he is more athletic than Zion relative to other players their own size.

On absolute athleticism, Zion is more athletic than Shaq.

SecondTake · Post #58 » by **SecondTake** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:09 pm

dlts20 wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
Dupp wrote:Shaq is on wilt and lebron god tier. Zion, not so much

LeBron is not on Wilt and Shaq tier at all. His combination of that athleticism with skill and basketbal IQ is what makes him special, but other than durability, I wouldnt call LeBron god tier athlete. I would put ZIon way up LeBron actually.

What... Lol

He had an NBA body in hs and could jump out the gym. At his peak he literally may have been the fastest guy in the league while playing in Karl Malones body, and possibly the ability to be the best PG in the league if needed... Lol

OK, put him in a boxing ring with Shaq and how many rounds does LBJ last? I give him 10 seconds max, might be down after the first 3 after eating the first punch.

Metallikid · Post #59 » by **Metallikid** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:16 pm

Shaq was named one of the 50 greatest NBA players ever in his 3rd season.

Baronious · Post #60 » by **Baronious** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:53 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
Baronious wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
LeBrib is 6'8 super athlete, but we have seen similar level athletes, but none of them had IQ, skill and mentality to be next Lebron, thats what makes LeBron great. Just look how athletic WIggins is, he is nowhere close as strong, but my point is, if Wiggins was a superstar, we would be talking what a great athlete he is, but right now noone even notice his crazy athleticism because he sucks. Thats the way with tons of super athletes who had no skill and mentality to succeed.
Zion is a better athlete than LeBron easily, he is one of those guys who isnt super skllled, but most likely still be superstar just because his athleticism is out of this world.
This dude obviously never watched Lebron in his athletic prime.

LeBron is the most athletic player of all time. Lol at Zion being more athletic than LeBron.

https://youtu.be/NGXxqhMSkZU

Go watch some of his highlights from 08-09 or 09-10. Zion will never come close to 09 Bron in terms of athleticism.

There is not another player who can do the things Lebron was doing on a night to night basis.

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I have watched peak Lebron all the time, I am not 12. But think just finding a 6'8 fast and strong guy is easier than finding the kid like ZIon. Zion is so big and strong and at the same time so explosive, that hasn't been seen in ages, where I think Lebronish type athletes were here and there over the years, they just didnt know how to play. Obviously LeBron is a freak and has Strength advante over mostly everyone that is fast explosive wing, but man, ZIon... Zion is a guy who is so athletic, he might not know how to play yet still be relevant simple because he is god tier athlete. 260 pound men literally bouncing off of him he is so strong.

Yes, Zion is strong as hell and jumps out of the building but he doesn't have the complete package that LeBron had. Guys like Westbrook and Wade had Bron type athleticism but the thing that makes Bron so special is that he was doing it at 6'8 /260. I don't know any other wing player that's on the same level as young Bron athletically.

Don't get me wrong, Zion is incredible but he just doesn't have the same package which is why you will never see him do some of the things Bron was doing on a nightly basis.

To me 2009 Bron was the most athletic player to ever play the game. Shaq and Wilt may be comparable when you think about how rare it is to be that athletic at that height and how dominant they were because of it but pure athleticism I don't think anyone bests Bron.

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Who was genetically a bigger freak