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dice · Post #1081 » by **dice** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:47 pm

ZOMG wrote:
FriedRise wrote:

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Is there a problem here?

Why do people keep acting like Zach deserves any of this stuff?

The Bulls fanbase needs to break out of the Stockholm syndrome.

pretty harsh there!

having harrison barnes, derrick white and freaking kuzma on there are indeed slaps in the face to lavine, though. barnes is obviously on there because of his previous "service" to the national team. and white was on the team last time around almost certainly due to popovich being coach. but kuzma? embarrassing

The Explorer · Post #1082 » by **The Explorer** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:49 pm

Mike Conley has also been trash for a while. Surely Lavine would provide more value to the squad than him.

dumbell78 · Post #1083 » by **dumbell78** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:10 am

Also think Aldridge and DeRozan shouldn't be on that list, you can make a case that Joe Harris should be left off if you have enough guys on board. Zach is ahead of those guys. Kuzma? Please lol

Post #1084 » by **kulaz3000** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:36 am

The selection of the USA teams has always had a underlying political view. There are obviously the stars who will always get invited but then there are the lesser players who frequently get asked to play a role, or simply be happy to be part of the process so they can be a body for practising leading up to the real games.

Zach just needs to use this as motivation, and continue to get better and as long as he does, his time will come.

Post #1085 » by **RedBulls23** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:00 am

kulaz3000 wrote:The selection of the USA teams has always had a underlying political view. There are obviously the stars who will always get invited but then there are the lesser players who frequently get asked to play a role, or simply be happy to be part of the process so they can be a body for practising leading up to the real games.

Zach just needs to use this as motivation, and continue to get better and as long as he does, his time will come.

https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2019/10/03/plot-twist-zach-lavine-actually-was-invited-to-join-team-usa/

Zach was invited to the World Championship and he turned them down last offseason. Since Colangelo took over, he's been adamant that players have to participate during the world cup in order to play in the Olympics. Basically give a bigger commitment to team USA. I'm sure all the people that are on this 44 player invite have at one point or another given up one or multiple offseasons to team USA.

Hopefully during the next world cup if he gets invited, he doesn't turn them down.

It's really simple as that. It's not about it being a slight to Zach or him not being good enough.

Post #1086 » by **kulaz3000** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:13 am

RedBulls23 wrote:
kulaz3000 wrote:The selection of the USA teams has always had a underlying political view. There are obviously the stars who will always get invited but then there are the lesser players who frequently get asked to play a role, or simply be happy to be part of the process so they can be a body for practising leading up to the real games.

Zach just needs to use this as motivation, and continue to get better and as long as he does, his time will come.

https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2019/10/03/plot-twist-zach-lavine-actually-was-invited-to-join-team-usa/

Zach was invited to the World Championship and he turned them down last offseason. Since Colangelo took over, he's been adamant that players have to participate during the world cup in order to play in the Olympics. Basically give a bigger commitment to team USA. I'm sure all the people that are on this 44 player invite have at one point or another given up one or multiple offseasons to team USA.

Hopefully during the next world cup if he gets invited, he doesn't turn them down.

It's really simple as that. It's not about it being a slight to Zach or him not being good enough.

Agreed, this is why you see lesser players being invited, because in their selectors minds, they have put in the time. Not that they will make the final team.

Still, don't blame Zach for turning it down initially because he wanted to focus on improving his game and in many ways it has paid off, just not in this regard.

PrimzyBulls81 · Post #1087 » by **PrimzyBulls81** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:17 am

Leon Rose considering Thibs and JVG for Knicks coach, yikes.. I think its better to go with Jeff of those two. Joerger would my pick among free coaches. Stackhouse follows, but I dont know if Raptors would let him.

MrFortune3 · Post #1088 » by **MrFortune3** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:33 am

PrimzyBulls81 wrote:Leon Rose considering Thibs and JVG for Knicks coach, yikes.. I think its better to go with Jeff of those two. Joerger would my pick among free coaches. Stackhouse follows, but I dont know if Raptors would let him.

If the Raptors would let him what? Jerry Stackhouse is the HC of Vanderbilt.

PrimzyBulls81 · Post #1089 » by **PrimzyBulls81** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:02 am

MrFortune3 wrote:
PrimzyBulls81 wrote:Leon Rose considering Thibs and JVG for Knicks coach, yikes.. I think its better to go with Jeff of those two. Joerger would my pick among free coaches. Stackhouse follows, but I dont know if Raptors would let him.

If the Raptors would let him what? Jerry Stackhouse is the HC of Vanderbilt.

oh yeah, I forgot LOL, I thought he is still with Raptors affiliate 905..

dice · Post #1090 » by **dice** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:02 pm

PrimzyBulls81 wrote:Leon Rose considering Thibs and JVG for Knicks coach, yikes.. I think its better to go with Jeff of those two. Joerger would my pick among free coaches. Stackhouse follows, but I dont know if Raptors would let him.

hope thibs has a strong heart if he's going from the wolves to the knicks

if thibs had gone straight from the bulls to the knicks and gotten the same kind of power he got in minny, he may have actually been able to turn things around. think it's too late for that now

dice · Post #1091 » by **dice** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:05 pm

The Explorer wrote:Mike Conley has also been trash for a while. Surely Lavine would provide more value to the squad than him.

he's been hampered by injury this year. he was really good last year after missing almost the entirety of the previous season. he's 32 now, though, so it'll be tough for him to ever get back to top form

dice · Post #1092 » by **dice** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:07 pm

RedBulls23 wrote:
kulaz3000 wrote:The selection of the USA teams has always had a underlying political view. There are obviously the stars who will always get invited but then there are the lesser players who frequently get asked to play a role, or simply be happy to be part of the process so they can be a body for practising leading up to the real games.

Zach just needs to use this as motivation, and continue to get better and as long as he does, his time will come.

https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2019/10/03/plot-twist-zach-lavine-actually-was-invited-to-join-team-usa/

Zach was invited to the World Championship and he turned them down last offseason. Since Colangelo took over, he's been adamant that players have to participate during the world cup in order to play in the Olympics. Basically give a bigger commitment to team USA. I'm sure all the people that are on this 44 player invite have at one point or another given up one or multiple offseasons to team USA.

Hopefully during the next world cup if he gets invited, he doesn't turn them down.

It's really simple as that. It's not about it being a slight to Zach or him not being good enough.

good point. still doesn't explain kuzma, though

also curious that zion and ja are absent

Post #1093 » by **RedBulls23** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:19 pm

dice wrote:
RedBulls23 wrote:
kulaz3000 wrote:The selection of the USA teams has always had a underlying political view. There are obviously the stars who will always get invited but then there are the lesser players who frequently get asked to play a role, or simply be happy to be part of the process so they can be a body for practising leading up to the real games.

Zach just needs to use this as motivation, and continue to get better and as long as he does, his time will come.

https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2019/10/03/plot-twist-zach-lavine-actually-was-invited-to-join-team-usa/

Zach was invited to the World Championship and he turned them down last offseason. Since Colangelo took over, he's been adamant that players have to participate during the world cup in order to play in the Olympics. Basically give a bigger commitment to team USA. I'm sure all the people that are on this 44 player invite have at one point or another given up one or multiple offseasons to team USA.

Hopefully during the next world cup if he gets invited, he doesn't turn them down.

It's really simple as that. It's not about it being a slight to Zach or him not being good enough.

good point. still doesn't explain kuzma, though

also curious that zion and ja are absent

Kuzma was invited to the world cup try outs last year and went.

Ja and Zion will likely be invited to be part of the select team, and future world cup/team USA participants.

ChiCityHoops34 · Post #1094 » by **ChiCityHoops34** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:37 pm

Read on Twitter

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Jimako10 · Post #1095 » by **Jimako10** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:11 pm

ChiCityHoops34 wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Read on Twitter

TheSuzerain · Post #1096 » by **TheSuzerain** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:31 pm

kulaz3000 wrote:The selection of the USA teams has always had a underlying political view. There are obviously the stars who will always get invited but then there are the lesser players who frequently get asked to play a role, or simply be happy to be part of the process so they can be a body for practising leading up to the real games.

Zach just needs to use this as motivation, and continue to get better and as long as he does, his time will come.

Lavine isn't that young. Very real chance his time doesn't come unless he goes hard for an invite in an off-year where the actual stars sit out.

Mech Engineer · Post #1097 » by **Mech Engineer** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:34 pm

ChiCityHoops34 wrote:

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Jimmy the Prophet :lol:

Well, a lot of us predicted about Hoiberg, young Bulls. I remember reading the Wolves forum when Thibs/Jimmy were around...a lot of them were blaming Thibs and were wanting their Hoiberg(no rules type environment). They are getting what they signed up for. I hope they turn it around because their GM is a smart guy.

Philly has Embiid's knee issues to deal with. Their window is small as it can be. They are better off preserving Embiid if they are not going to go deep in the playoffs. The wear and tear will make it worse.

Jimmy can write a great book after he retires on the lies told by the management in Chicago/Minneapolis.

Dan Z · Post #1098 » by **Dan Z** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:05 pm

Miami made the Jimmy Butler gamble that Chicago never could

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28672481

MrFortune3 · Post #1099 » by **MrFortune3** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:27 pm

Jimako10 wrote:
ChiCityHoops34 wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Read on Twitter

It's true. People are the time liked to claim that Jimmy was not a superstar and that he couldn't be a true #1 on a championship contending team.
Pat Riley apparently sees otherwise.

Dan Z · Post #1100 » by **Dan Z** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:42 pm

MrFortune3 wrote:
Jimako10 wrote:
ChiCityHoops34 wrote:[tweet][/tweet]?s=21

Read on Twitter

It's true. People are the time liked to claim that Jimmy was not a superstar and that he couldn't be a true #1 on a championship contending team.
Pat Riley apparently sees otherwise.

Even if Riley doesn't really think of Jimmy as a true #1 (he'll never admit it) he sees him as an upgrade for their team and their best chance at winning right now.

It's a mindset that I think a front office should have. Sure you'd like to have one of the top 5 players in the league, but if you don't then it's good to put together the best team you can (to give yourself a chance at winning).