Game 53: Minnesota Timberwolves (16-36) vs. Charlotte Hornets (17-36) - 8:00 PM ET

Jedzz · Post #101 » by **Jedzz** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:14 am

wolves_89 wrote:Hopefully the Wolves don't play down to the competition as they have so often done in the past. The team looked really good during first two games with the new roster, especially when considering that both games were against top 5 teams.

same ol team

shrink · Post #102 » by **shrink** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:30 am

Jedzz wrote:26 and 28 from our two back court players and we lose? Kevin Love is rolling over in his retirement suit

Inefficient though. Russell was 9-for-23. (39%).

Beasley was a bit better, 11-for-25 (44%)

shrink · Post #103 » by **shrink** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:31 am

The silver lining is that six weeks from now, we may be happy we lost this game.

Save the wins for teams like the Clippers

Jedzz · Post #104 » by **Jedzz** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:33 am

shrink wrote:
Jedzz wrote:26 and 28 from our two back court players and we lose? Kevin Love is rolling over in his retirement suit

Inefficient though. Russell was 9-for-23. (39%).

Beasley was a bit better, 11-for-25 (44%)

oh yummy. I didnt notice that, coming in at the end of 4th.

Jedzz · Post #105 » by **Jedzz** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:35 am

shrink wrote:The silver lining is that six weeks from now, we may be happy we lost this game.

Save the wins for teams like the Clippers

We'll just draft another project or trade it for Gordon.

I'm just happy we have some shooters on the team for once. That's something to work with. Something to watch. Before the trades happened I was already done watching for the season.

Post #106 » by **Calinks** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:47 am

This loss hurt. A bunch of casual fans were there because of the free tickets. A lot of skeptical fans, etc. People looking for a reason to get behind the team again. Energy was low from the tip, definitely not how things looked like from the first home game. Still, the fans were ready to get loud if they saw something to get hyped about. Biggest pop of the night was Roco being shown and at the star when Russell got introduced.

In the last 5 minutes fans were walking out early. Those who stayed had the stunned look of depression stuck on their face. Everyone was pretty disappointed and wound up meandering out into the cold. Missed opportunity to energize the home crowd by beating up on the Hornets.

Good news is the tank is still alive. Our next 4 games will be damn hard to win so we may be on the verge of another 6 game losing streak. I just worry that these new players who came in all excited and hyped up are going to get swallowed up by the wolf funk and we start losing a bunch of games again and everyone gets listless. Can't lose that spark because once it goes out, its damn near impossible to light it again.

Nick K · Post #107 » by **Nick K** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:47 am

shrink wrote:This is just so frustrating

We can agree with that. They made the big shots and plays....we didn't. It sucks.

Nick K · Post #108 » by **Nick K** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:49 am

Colbinii wrote:As bad as the second half was those back-to-back-to-back calls were some of the worst I have ever seen. Especially the foul on Johnson.

Horrible calls in a close game can be a huge factor. No sour grapes but true.

Dewey · Post #109 » by **Dewey** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:50 am

Still not gritty enough to be a good playoff team... and severely disrespected by officials.

It is what it is... as a player you’re a part of the problem or a part of the solution. As a coach you need to make those calls and hope your right 2 outa 3

Colbinii · Post #110 » by **Colbinii** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:51 am

Nick K wrote:
Colbinii wrote:As bad as the second half was those back-to-back-to-back calls were some of the worst I have ever seen. Especially the foul on Johnson.

Horrible calls in a close game can be a huge factor. No sour grapes but true.

I had 4 little kids behind me start chanting "Refs you suck" and I felt bad for the parents because they were like "Well yeah they suck but you can't say that". After the apparent "Timeout" after the Hornets player pushed ours I said "Refs you suck" and all the little kids started chanting it again lol.

Colbinii · Post #111 » by **Colbinii** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:52 am

Jedzz wrote:
shrink wrote:The silver lining is that six weeks from now, we may be happy we lost this game.

Save the wins for teams like the Clippers

We'll just draft another project or trade it for Gordon.

I'm just happy we have some shooters on the team for once. That's something to work with. Something to watch. Before the trades happened I was already done watching for the season.

Dude nobody in the league would give up a lottery pick for Gordon.

Mark my words, when Orlando trades him, it will be for an expiring plus a late first.

Colbinii · Post #112 » by **Colbinii** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:54 am

People in here are really upset or saying "Same old Wolves" when they are missing their best player and have half a new roster?

Go be a bucks fan.

Neeva · Post #113 » by **Neeva** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:56 am

I’m not upset , we need a top two pick.

Nick K · Post #114 » by **Nick K** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:56 am

jpatrick wrote:I also like that we’re force feeding Reid minutes. He’s definitely an NBA player, but I don’t think he defends or rebounds well enough to get significant minutes as a five. At least not right now.

Beasley and Juancho are must signs though. Both are good enough to get rotation minutes on any team in the league.

I agree Beasley and Juancho are must signs. Crabbe is playing his way out of a deal.

We need more from Culver and Okogie. 13 pts total from those two were a big reason we lost.

Nick K · Post #115 » by **Nick K** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:02 am

Wolves21 wrote:Really bad lose again tonight.Its pretty clearly that Baby Flip is a bad coach and does a terrible job mixing line ups and roles with bad line up for way to long.Having Gomez & Reid together at any point is a terrible idea both guys are pretty bad defenders and are terrible on the glass.

The positives are that Russell/Beasley could grow into a really good back court,while Russell defense still isn't good he was make some effort which is something.Really feel going forward the Wolves need to look for defensive mind big instead of another guard or wing.Offense wise Towns/Russell/Beasley are all 20 plus scores on any given night.Need that big that can eat glass and run with the pack and get easy dunks.Adding Capela would have been ideally maybe they should look at getting Adams in the offseason from the Thunder.

Who is he supposed to play with Towns out? Gomez gets 16 and 12 while Reid gets 12 and 6 Bad defenders and terrible on the glass??

Who is Gomez supposed to play with...Lurch? It's Juancho.

shangrila · Post #116 » by **shangrila** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:08 am

This loss sucks, so let's fire up some excuses!

1. We were missing our best player who the entire team is built around. That might be ok for other teams, it's not for us.
2. We lost by 7 in a game where we shot less than 40% from the field and less than 30% from 3. Guys were just missing 3s even when we were up. This shouldn't happen often.
3. I like Juancho and I think he could have a long career here, but he took 18 shots tonight. He's not that kind of player, nor will he be once Towns is back.
4. Fouls. Johnson and Reid were the most notable but even Russell had 4. I'm not going to blame the refs, even though it was totally their fault, but it's a good excuse for disrupting guys' rhythm.

And a small silver lining; only 11 turnovers, a significant improvement over the Toronto game and kind of impressive for guys with only 2-3 games together.

Post #117 » by **Calinks** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:10 am

I still think we would be way better off getting a defensive 4 and playing two bigs. Again, I would love Myles Turner in that role.

Definitely going to need to find some wing players who can attack the basket. We got shooters but we need some people who can put the ball on the floor and get to the hole.

Hellcrooner · Post #118 » by **Hellcrooner** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:05 am

shangrila wrote:This loss sucks, so let's fire up some excuses!

1. We were missing our best player who the entire team is built around. That might be ok for other teams, it's not for us.
2. We lost by 7 in a game where we shot less than 40% from the field and less than 30% from 3. Guys were just missing 3s even when we were up. This sho like Juancho and I think he could have a long career here, but he took 18 shots tonight. He's not that kind of player, nor will he be once Towns is back.uldn't happen often.
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4. Fouls. Johnson and Reid were the most notable but even Russell had 4. I'm not going to blame the refs, even though it was totally their fault, but it's a good excuse for disrupting guys' rhythm.

And a small silver lining; only 11 turnovers, a significant improvement over the Toronto game and kind of impressive for guys with only 2-3 games together.

he actually COULD be that type of player.
IF allowed too.

Theres no reason beasley should be regarded as a better prospect, AT ALL.

shangrila · Post #119 » by **shangrila** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:29 am

Hellcrooner wrote:
shangrila wrote:This loss sucks, so let's fire up some excuses!

1. We were missing our best player who the entire team is built around. That might be ok for other teams, it's not for us.
2. We lost by 7 in a game where we shot less than 40% from the field and less than 30% from 3. Guys were just missing 3s even when we were up. This sho like Juancho and I think he could have a long career here, but he took 18 shots tonight. He's not that kind of player, nor will he be once Towns is back.uldn't happen often.
3. I
4. Fouls. Johnson and Reid were the most notable but even Russell had 4. I'm not going to blame the refs, even though it was totally their fault, but it's a good excuse for disrupting guys' rhythm.

And a small silver lining; only 11 turnovers, a significant improvement over the Toronto game and kind of impressive for guys with only 2-3 games together.

he actually COULD be that type of player.
IF allowed too.

Theres no reason beasley should be regarded as a better prospect, AT ALL.

Hernangomez? I highly doubt that. He caps out as an energy, 3&(hopefully)D 4. And there's nothing wrong with that.

Beasley is the better prospect because he shoots it better and is a little more advanced with his moves offensively.

Also, you absolutely butchered my post in your quote. Not exactly sure how you managed that.

shangrila · Post #120 » by **shangrila** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:25 am

Calinks wrote:I still think we would be way better off getting a defensive 4 and playing two bigs. Again, I would love Myles Turner in that role.

It depends. A big like Gorgui, or Turner as you suggest, wouldn't work. Neither they nor Towns can guard out on the perimeter.

I'm sure that if they found a guy that was a straight 4, like Siakam (talking physically, not skill level) who was mostly one position defensively but also able to switch in a pinch, they'd be fine with it. I mean, that's kind of what Hernangomez is right now.

Definitely going to need to find some wing players who can attack the basket. We got shooters but we need some people who can put the ball on the floor and get to the hole.

I think you're right that we have more finishers than creators at this point. Towns will help that, with the doubles he gets and the passes he can make, but getting more accustomed to the system should also help. Having guys run off more screens, stuff like that.

And who knows? Culver looks like he could fill that role. Maybe Rosas looked into his magic ball 9 months ago and saw this would be an issue when he picked Culver over guys like White or Herro?