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[sco]

I believe it's 45 days with the NBA team. If he is with the team and doesn't play that still counts.

Has he been with the NBA team that long? I still think they should give him some playing time. Boylen could play Shaq and Arci less for a few games. Maybe even Dunn. Unfortunately I don't really see this happening, but do think the team should use the rest of the season to figure out who are the keepers.

Honestly, like I’ve said, I just don’t see the point of keeping Arci, Shaq, etc. Even Dunn and Valentine. This has to be the most empty calorie crowded backcourt in the NBA. You can add up all theirPERs and PPGs and APG and they barely edge out most starting guards lol.

We clearly need PG and wing upgrades in general. Seems silly to me to have 4+ below-average, situational/flawed young players blocking the guard rotation. They just sit, sit and sit on these guys.

I would rather have some old higher-tier veterans like Dragic or Patty Mills if we’re gonna be blowing cap on Thad Youngs and all these rookie salary prospects who can’t string together a good season. At least they’ll have something to show Zach and Coby.

Honestly, our problem isn't our bench guard squad. I like Arci, Shaq, Dunn and Valentine as bench guys, not that we need them all, but our problem has been due to injuries, plain and simple. We definitely would benefit from a true #1 option at either PG or SF too.

[MrSparkle]

Has he been with the NBA team that long? I still think they should give him some playing time. Boylen could play Shaq and Arci less for a few games. Maybe even Dunn. Unfortunately I don't really see this happening, but do think the team should use the rest of the season to figure out who are the keepers.

Honestly, like I’ve said, I just don’t see the point of keeping Arci, Shaq, etc. Even Dunn and Valentine. This has to be the most empty calorie crowded backcourt in the NBA. You can add up all theirPERs and PPGs and APG and they barely edge out most starting guards lol.

We clearly need PG and wing upgrades in general. Seems silly to me to have 4+ below-average, situational/flawed young players blocking the guard rotation. They just sit, sit and sit on these guys.

I would rather have some old higher-tier veterans like Dragic or Patty Mills if we’re gonna be blowing cap on Thad Youngs and all these rookie salary prospects who can’t string together a good season. At least they’ll have something to show Zach and Coby.

Honestly, our problem isn't our bench guard squad. I like Arci, Shaq, Dunn and Valentine as bench guys, not that we need them all, but our problem has been due to injuries, plain and simple. We definitely would benefit from a true #1 option at either PG or SF too.

Right ... but the reason these injuries seem worse than they are is because until Hutchison came back, there were zero wings to back up a man with chronic hip, back and now foot injuries.

6 roster spots for rather healthy small guards. 2 for wings, 2 of whom are injury prone.

Makes no sense.

[Dan Z]

Has he been with the NBA team that long? I still think they should give him some playing time. Boylen could play Shaq and Arci less for a few games. Maybe even Dunn. Unfortunately I don't really see this happening, but do think the team should use the rest of the season to figure out who are the keepers.

Honestly, like I’ve said, I just don’t see the point of keeping Arci, Shaq, etc. Even Dunn and Valentine. This has to be the most empty calorie crowded backcourt in the NBA. You can add up all theirPERs and PPGs and APG and they barely edge out most starting guards lol.

We clearly need PG and wing upgrades in general. Seems silly to me to have 4+ below-average, situational/flawed young players blocking the guard rotation. They just sit, sit and sit on these guys.

I would rather have some old higher-tier veterans like Dragic or Patty Mills if we’re gonna be blowing cap on Thad Youngs and all these rookie salary prospects who can’t string together a good season. At least they’ll have something to show Zach and Coby.

Honestly, our problem isn't our bench guard squad. I like Arci, Shaq, Dunn and Valentine as bench guys, not that we need them all, but our problem has been due to injuries, plain and simple. We definitely would benefit from a true #1 option at either PG or SF too.

Injures are the main reason why this season has been lost, but I think we're talking about what to do going forward...?

Dunn and Valentine are free agents at the end of the season. Are the Bulls going to re-sign them? What do they really bring to the team for the rest of the season? Might as well take an unknown like Mokoka and play him a bit. I'm not saying huge minutes but enough so you can see what he can or can't do.

[sco]

Honestly, like I’ve said, I just don’t see the point of keeping Arci, Shaq, etc. Even Dunn and Valentine. This has to be the most empty calorie crowded backcourt in the NBA. You can add up all theirPERs and PPGs and APG and they barely edge out most starting guards lol.

We clearly need PG and wing upgrades in general. Seems silly to me to have 4+ below-average, situational/flawed young players blocking the guard rotation. They just sit, sit and sit on these guys.

I would rather have some old higher-tier veterans like Dragic or Patty Mills if we’re gonna be blowing cap on Thad Youngs and all these rookie salary prospects who can’t string together a good season. At least they’ll have something to show Zach and Coby.

Honestly, our problem isn't our bench guard squad. I like Arci, Shaq, Dunn and Valentine as bench guys, not that we need them all, but our problem has been due to injuries, plain and simple. We definitely would benefit from a true #1 option at either PG or SF too.

Injures are the main reason why this season has been lost, but I think we're talking about what to do going forward...?

Dunn and Valentine are free agents at the end of the season. Are the Bulls going to re-sign them? What do they really bring to the team for the rest of the season? Might as well take an unknown like Mokoka and play him a bit. I'm not saying huge minutes but enough so you can see what he can or can't do.

I like either, but not both of Dunn or Shaq coming back next season as a defensive specialist on a cheap deal. Val is a decent 3pt specialist, again on a cheap deal. I view them all as 9th-12th men, playing more situationally than regular rotation guys, and paid less than $4M per year.

[MrSparkle]

Honestly, our problem isn't our bench guard squad. I like Arci, Shaq, Dunn and Valentine as bench guys, not that we need them all, but our problem has been due to injuries, plain and simple. We definitely would benefit from a true #1 option at either PG or SF too.

Injures are the main reason why this season has been lost, but I think we're talking about what to do going forward...?

Dunn and Valentine are free agents at the end of the season. Are the Bulls going to re-sign them? What do they really bring to the team for the rest of the season? Might as well take an unknown like Mokoka and play him a bit. I'm not saying huge minutes but enough so you can see what he can or can't do.

I like either, but not both of Dunn or Shaq coming back next season as a defensive specialist on a cheap deal. Val is a decent 3pt specialist, again on a cheap deal. I view them all as 9th-12th men, playing more situationally than regular rotation guys, and paid less than $4M per year.

I’d say it’s more important to get back to clearing space from the froth contracts. I’d rather keep picking up $1-2m Mokokas and Gaffords as opposed to paying $4m+ deals to mediocre roster spots. There is just so much glut on the books, I value the roster spots even more than the cap holds. There are so many intriguing athletes to take gambles on, and there’s a Dinwiddie that comes up every year. Unless Shaq develops a 3ball or Arci gets the green light to attempt to play a high pace Nash offense for 20mpg, these guys have no long-term value at all (nor short-term, since we’re sub 500).

Valentine is a talented microwave specialist, but I think he’ll want to leave anyway, and with Zach, I really don’t think there’s a role for him here because they’re an incompatible defensive wing tandem. Dunn was a nice reclamation project, but honestly, I’d rather just get a shooter at PG. I legitimately would’ve preferred seeing Arci in a full-time pg role sooner than splitting with Dunn.

Add up these 5 guys plus Felicio and it’s like $30m of salaries on guys who are EASILY replaceable by vet min waiver pickups.

[MrSparkle]

Honestly, our problem isn't our bench guard squad. I like Arci, Shaq, Dunn and Valentine as bench guys, not that we need them all, but our problem has been due to injuries, plain and simple. We definitely would benefit from a true #1 option at either PG or SF too.

Injures are the main reason why this season has been lost, but I think we're talking about what to do going forward...?

Dunn and Valentine are free agents at the end of the season. Are the Bulls going to re-sign them? What do they really bring to the team for the rest of the season? Might as well take an unknown like Mokoka and play him a bit. I'm not saying huge minutes but enough so you can see what he can or can't do.

I like either, but not both of Dunn or Shaq coming back next season as a defensive specialist on a cheap deal. Val is a decent 3pt specialist, again on a cheap deal. I view them all as 9th-12th men, playing more situationally than regular rotation guys, and paid less than $4M per year.

I’d say it’s more important to get back to clearing space from the froth contracts. I’d rather keep picking up $1-2m Mokokas and Gaffords as opposed to paying $4m+ deals to mediocre roster spots. There is just so much glut on the books, I value the roster spots even more than the cap holds. There are so many intriguing athletes to take gambles on, and there’s a Dinwiddie that comes up every year. Unless Shaq develops a 3ball or Arci gets the green light to attempt to play a high pace Nash offense for 20mpg, these guys have no long-term value at all (nor short-term, since we’re sub 500).

Valentine is a talented microwave specialist, but I think he’ll want to leave anyway, and with Zach, I really don’t think there’s a role for him here because they’re an incompatible defensive wing tandem. Dunn was a nice reclamation project, but honestly, I’d rather just get a shooter at PG. I legitimately would’ve preferred seeing Arci in a full-time pg role sooner than splitting with Dunn.

Add up these 5 guys plus Felicio and it’s like $30m of salaries on guys who are EASILY replaceable by vet min waiver pickups.

[PaKii94]

Honestly, our problem isn't our bench guard squad. I like Arci, Shaq, Dunn and Valentine as bench guys, not that we need them all, but our problem has been due to injuries, plain and simple. We definitely would benefit from a true #1 option at either PG or SF too.

Injures are the main reason why this season has been lost, but I think we're talking about what to do going forward...?

Dunn and Valentine are free agents at the end of the season. Are the Bulls going to re-sign them? What do they really bring to the team for the rest of the season? Might as well take an unknown like Mokoka and play him a bit. I'm not saying huge minutes but enough so you can see what he can or can't do.

I like either, but not both of Dunn or Shaq coming back next season as a defensive specialist on a cheap deal. Val is a decent 3pt specialist, again on a cheap deal. I view them all as 9th-12th men, playing more situationally than regular rotation guys, and paid less than $4M per year.

I think they brought in Shaq as defensive guard role because they believed they would move Dunn before long (which obviously didn't happen)

Anyway I don't mind having these kind of end of bench guys with a young roster because you need stabilization and good habits. You bring it projects and players looking to break into the rotation on set teams with veterans to provide a youth spark and push the older guys (you want them to be hungry for minutes). You don't bring them in on a young team because that just causes more turmoil...Like we have with gafford. Obviously he's a nice big to be developed but how do you give him minutes in a already crowded rotation of Lauri/WCJ/Thad/Kornet (Kornet was supposed to be part of the rotation)?

[Dan Z]

Injures are the main reason why this season has been lost, but I think we're talking about what to do going forward...?

Dunn and Valentine are free agents at the end of the season. Are the Bulls going to re-sign them? What do they really bring to the team for the rest of the season? Might as well take an unknown like Mokoka and play him a bit. I'm not saying huge minutes but enough so you can see what he can or can't do.

I like either, but not both of Dunn or Shaq coming back next season as a defensive specialist on a cheap deal. Val is a decent 3pt specialist, again on a cheap deal. I view them all as 9th-12th men, playing more situationally than regular rotation guys, and paid less than $4M per year.

I’d say it’s more important to get back to clearing space from the froth contracts. I’d rather keep picking up $1-2m Mokokas and Gaffords as opposed to paying $4m+ deals to mediocre roster spots. There is just so much glut on the books, I value the roster spots even more than the cap holds. There are so many intriguing athletes to take gambles on, and there’s a Dinwiddie that comes up every year. Unless Shaq develops a 3ball or Arci gets the green light to attempt to play a high pace Nash offense for 20mpg, these guys have no long-term value at all (nor short-term, since we’re sub 500).

Valentine is a talented microwave specialist, but I think he’ll want to leave anyway, and with Zach, I really don’t think there’s a role for him here because they’re an incompatible defensive wing tandem. Dunn was a nice reclamation project, but honestly, I’d rather just get a shooter at PG. I legitimately would’ve preferred seeing Arci in a full-time pg role sooner than splitting with Dunn.

Add up these 5 guys plus Felicio and it’s like $30m of salaries on guys who are EASILY replaceable by vet min waiver pickups.

I agree. Look at someone like Christian Wood who is having a good season. Almost any team in the league could've got him and Detroit did for 1.6 million.

[The Explorer]

Scottie is savage lol. Tmac still going in about the time clock. I wish the national media talk more about how poor a job GarPax have done though.

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[dumbell78]

This national exposing of piss poor management is a treat. Please give us more!

[Dan Z]

Scottie is savage lol. Tmac still going in about the time clock. I wish the national media talk more about how poor a job GarPax have done though.

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I never knew that about the time clock. They should be ripped on for that.

[dumbell78]

Scottie is savage lol. Tmac still going in about the time clock. I wish the national media talk more about how poor a job GarPax have done though.

Watch on YouTube

I never knew that about the time clock. They should be ripped on for that.

I had no clue as well, utterly embarrassing.

[kodo]

The clock is such a hard hat, lunchpail thing. I'm not surprised at all. We've been marketing that as our identity for the entire Paxson era.

Interesting that the narrative is now shifting to "Zach Lavine is such a talent" it's time to see him surrounded by decent players.

[Dan Z]

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[jc23]

Scottie is savage lol. Tmac still going in about the time clock. I wish the national media talk more about how poor a job GarPax have done though.

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biggest take away from that is someone needed to slap Wilbon in the face. No way has he followed the team closely enough to use injuries as the main excuse for this teams poor play.

[Chi town]

Pax hired his puppet and it has exposed hownout of touch he is with where the league and players really are.

[PrimzyBulls81]

Scottie is savage lol. Tmac still going in about the time clock. I wish the national media talk more about how poor a job GarPax have done though.

Watch on YouTube

Haha, well he is spot on! I wish he had some role in the organization.

[dice]

Scottie is savage lol. Tmac still going in about the time clock. I wish the national media talk more about how poor a job GarPax have done though.

Watch on YouTube

biggest take away from that is someone needed to slap Wilbon in the face. No way has he followed the team closely enough to use injuries as the main excuse for this teams poor play.

of course it goes beyond injury. but they're 5 games out of the playoffs. wilbon predicted them to be the 8 seed. it's entirely possible that injuries will end up preventing that

[Mbrahv0528]

I've said it before, but I hope the Bulls give Mokoka some playing time. The season is lost so why not see what we have in players like him?

Since he's a two way player, I think he's limited in the amount of NBA games he can play. Maybe they are saving him for the end when games don't matter so he can play extended minutes.

Two way players are limited? I know they go from the g league to the NBA, but isn't the goal to develop players who can hopefully produce on the NBA level?

My guess is that the team doesn't value Mokoka that much. I get it, he's the last player on the roster, but it sounds like he works hard and he had a good 5 minutes against the Pelicans so why not give him a few minutes here and there?

Because our head coach is a complete buffoon?

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[jc23]

Scottie is savage lol. Tmac still going in about the time clock. I wish the national media talk more about how poor a job GarPax have done though.

Watch on YouTube

biggest take away from that is someone needed to slap Wilbon in the face. No way has he followed the team closely enough to use injuries as the main excuse for this teams poor play.

of course it goes beyond injury. but they're 5 games out of the playoffs. wilbon predicted them to be the 8 seed. it's entirely possible that injuries will end up preventing that

Sure i can see a perfectly healthy Bulls team being a few games better at this point. With that the 8th seed is a bit deceiving considering the conference.

imo Wilbon was using the injury situation as the main reason Chicago has under performed. The eye test says different. At some point you have to factor in a players durability with their talent and Otto (wiz fans warned us), Lauri and Wendell are just not durable. Most of the impact players for the Bulls have under performed to their expectations or their contracts. Its a bad team. I would bet wilbon has watched less then 3 Bulls games this season.