Raps 2020 Picks (Prospect Watch, Update: Vecenie Mock Released)

[Mark_83]

Jalen Smith is interesting. Averaging 17-10.5-2.5 in conference play and shooting really well from 3 and the FT line. I'll watch the Maryland-Michigan in a game next month, but he would maybe be available at our pick and while he'd need to put at least another 15 pounds on to play 5 at the next level, he's still only 19 so that seems plausible. Basically the idea is he'd be an Ibaka type on offense but a bit more fluid so we can continue to play 5 out.

NBADraft.net has him at #26. Hopefully his stock doesn't rise too much.

Whoa 39% from 3. Looks like a better rebounding Boucher, consistently gets over 10 rebs/gm! He might be able to add some bulk.

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Yeah, I'd take him over Boucher if they're comfortable with his IQ and work ethic.

My priority watch list:

Nesmith (SG/SF - 6'6)
51(fg%) 52(3pt fg%) 82(ft%) 23pts 1.4stl 4.9reb

Vassell (SG/SF - 6'7)
49(fg%) 42(3pt fg%) 73(ft%) 13.4pts 1.5stl 1.1blk 5.3reb

T. Bye (SF/PF - 6'7)
52(fg%) 50(3pt fg%) 75(ft%) 13.6pts 1.7stl 1.3blk 9.1reb

S. Bye (SF - 6'8)
48(fg%) 46(3pt fg%) 79(ft%) 15.7pts 5reb

Reed (PF - 6'9)
52(fg%) 28(3pt fg%) 76(ft%) 15.6pts 2stl 2.8blk 10.9reb

Achiuwa (SF/PF - 6'9)
51(fg%) 35(3pt fg%) 57(ft%) 14.7pts 1.1stl 1.9blk 9.8reb

Hughes (SG - 6'6)
42(fg%) 35(3pt fg%) 81(ft%) 18.6pts 1.2stl 1blk 5reb

[ATLTimekeeper]

Sam Vecenie updated his Mock Draft to 3.0 post trade deadline. Draft positions are based on standings as of Feb 10th, and on team needs.

https://theathletic.com/1603325/2020/02/13/vecenie-2020-nba-mock-draft-version-3-0-post-trade-deadline-edition/

Raptors:

28. Toronto Raptors
Daniel Oturu | 6-10 center | 20 years old, sophomore | Minnesota

Oturu has been one of the big midseason risers within this cycle, going from something of an afterthought after a solid freshman campaign heading into the season to one of the best centers in college basketball. The big man out of Minnesota is averaging a monster 20.1-point, 11.5-rebound per game line while also swatting 2.7 shots per game. He also moves his feet reasonably well enough to where teams should be able to play drop coverage with him at center.

The concerns here? First, he just doesn’t really pass it at all. His near-1-to-3 assist to turnover ratio is an issue. For him to become a potential starter at the center position, he’ll need to at least be able to make reads in short rolls. Also, at 6-10, even with good length, he’ll be slightly undersized for the position. Finally, while he has shown good shooting mechanics and workable potential on that end, he is only hitting 30 percent from 3. I’d bet that he’s a good shooter in time, but that consistency needs to be repped out.

I made this same point about drop back coverages. He'd fit our system just fine.

[J-Roc]

What's the record for mock drafts getting the 28th pick right in February?

[Ell Curry]

The best NBA prospect at Michigan is Franz Wagner who probably won't come out until 2021. He's crazy long and can obviously shoot it but hasn't hit at the percentage he should. Good rebounder. He's playing pretty well in his first year in North America despite having no strength whatsoever. When he becomes a man physically and tightens his handle he looks like a nice combo forward type.

Michigan's current best player though, is Isaiah Livers, and while I don't see him as a classic Masai pick since he's not incredibly long or possessing great footwork he is a good athlete and has the size and intelligence to guard multiple positions and would be #1 in the entire country in offensive rating if he hadn't got hurt and missed games (he's far enough ahead that even if he slumped a bit he'd be #1) because he hits a lot of 3s, gets dunks and is a decent pullup jump shooter and he doesn't really take any other shots. I don't see him coming out unless he's a first rounder but he'd be a very nice fit as a cheap forward spacing the floor and backing up Siakam and OG for 15-20 minutes a night

[Reeko]

Can someone explain to me why Vernon Carey is projected to go 10th in this year's draft? Whenever I watch Duke play, I always come away unimpressed by this kid.

[ATLTimekeeper]

What's the record for mock drafts getting the 28th pick right in February?

They're not supposed to be right. It's just a vehicle for passing on information about prospects.

[HeadtopChunes]

Tyrell Terry might be worth drafting

He’s got big talent and the kind of guy that’s a lottery pick next year if he improves

Could also function as FVV insurance

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[BoyzNTheHood]

Sam Vecenie updated his Mock Draft to 3.0 post trade deadline. Draft positions are based on standings as of Feb 10th, and on team needs.

https://theathletic.com/1603325/2020/02/13/vecenie-2020-nba-mock-draft-version-3-0-post-trade-deadline-edition/

Raptors:

28. Toronto Raptors
Daniel Oturu | 6-10 center | 20 years old, sophomore | Minnesota

Oturu has been one of the big midseason risers within this cycle, going from something of an afterthought after a solid freshman campaign heading into the season to one of the best centers in college basketball. The big man out of Minnesota is averaging a monster 20.1-point, 11.5-rebound per game line while also swatting 2.7 shots per game. He also moves his feet reasonably well enough to where teams should be able to play drop coverage with him at center.

The concerns here? First, he just doesn’t really pass it at all. His near-1-to-3 assist to turnover ratio is an issue. For him to become a potential starter at the center position, he’ll need to at least be able to make reads in short rolls. Also, at 6-10, even with good length, he’ll be slightly undersized for the position. Finally, while he has shown good shooting mechanics and workable potential on that end, he is only hitting 30 percent from 3. I’d bet that he’s a good shooter in time, but that consistency needs to be repped out.

58. Toronto Raptors
Paul Eboua | 6-8 forward | 19 years old | Pesaro

Eboua has been in double-figures in eight of his past 15 games, and seems to be coming along from an offensive perspective despite still clearly being pretty raw. And at 6-foot-8 with a 7-foot-3 wingspan and massive hands, he’s a monster defensive player. Toronto obviously specializes in these types of guys and tends to have success with them. This is a late bloomer profile, even if scouts do have some concerns about the way he processes the game on offense, and the fact that he doesn’t really ever make high-level passes.

I would be ecstatic with this outcome from what I've seen so far this season. But Masai is lightyears ahead of me so whoever he picks is who I'm riding with.

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[BoyzNTheHood]

Can someone explain to me why Vernon Carey is projected to go 10th in this year's draft? Whenever I watch Duke play, I always come away unimpressed by this kid.

I remember checking out advanced stats in college a few days ago and his name popped up a lot for big men. I can't remember the exact stats and I'm not near a computer at the moment, so I'm basically saying a lot of nothing. But maybe advanced stats are why

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[Psubs]

Sam Vecenie updated his Mock Draft to 3.0 post trade deadline. Draft positions are based on standings as of Feb 10th, and on team needs.

https://theathletic.com/1603325/2020/02/13/vecenie-2020-nba-mock-draft-version-3-0-post-trade-deadline-edition/

Raptors:

28. Toronto Raptors
Daniel Oturu | 6-10 center | 20 years old, sophomore | Minnesota

Oturu has been one of the big midseason risers within this cycle, going from something of an afterthought after a solid freshman campaign heading into the season to one of the best centers in college basketball. The big man out of Minnesota is averaging a monster 20.1-point, 11.5-rebound per game line while also swatting 2.7 shots per game. He also moves his feet reasonably well enough to where teams should be able to play drop coverage with him at center.

The concerns here? First, he just doesn’t really pass it at all. His near-1-to-3 assist to turnover ratio is an issue. For him to become a potential starter at the center position, he’ll need to at least be able to make reads in short rolls. Also, at 6-10, even with good length, he’ll be slightly undersized for the position. Finally, while he has shown good shooting mechanics and workable potential on that end, he is only hitting 30 percent from 3. I’d bet that he’s a good shooter in time, but that consistency needs to be repped out.

58. Toronto Raptors
Paul Eboua | 6-8 forward | 19 years old | Pesaro

Eboua has been in double-figures in eight of his past 15 games, and seems to be coming along from an offensive perspective despite still clearly being pretty raw. And at 6-foot-8 with a 7-foot-3 wingspan and massive hands, he’s a monster defensive player. Toronto obviously specializes in these types of guys and tends to have success with them. This is a late bloomer profile, even if scouts do have some concerns about the way he processes the game on offense, and the fact that he doesn’t really ever make high-level passes.

I would be ecstatic with this outcome from what I've seen so far this season. But Masai is lightyears ahead of me so whoever he picks is who I'm riding with.

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Happy Birthday Paul Eboua!

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Can someone explain to me why Vernon Carey is projected to go 10th in this year's draft? Whenever I watch Duke play, I always come away unimpressed by this kid.

I remember checking out advanced stats in college a few days ago and his name popped up a lot for big men. I can't remember the exact stats and I'm not near a computer at the moment, so I'm basically saying a lot of nothing. But maybe advanced stats are why

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I mean he's scoring 28 points per 40 on a really good 2pt% (and overall ts%) so yeah...good "advanced stats" he does have. 14.3 rebounds 2 plus blocks per 40.

He's 270 **** pounds.

[Reeko]

Can someone explain to me why Vernon Carey is projected to go 10th in this year's draft? Whenever I watch Duke play, I always come away unimpressed by this kid.

I remember checking out advanced stats in college a few days ago and his name popped up a lot for big men. I can't remember the exact stats and I'm not near a computer at the moment, so I'm basically saying a lot of nothing. But maybe advanced stats are why

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I mean he's scoring 28 points per 40 on a really good 2pt% (and overall ts%) so yeah...good "advanced stats" he does have. 14.3 rebounds 2 plus blocks per 40.

He's 270 **** pounds.

Just looked at his stats. Didn't realize he was shooting 38% from 3 and 58% from the field. Looks like he's slimmed down and toned up since the beginning of the season. Doesn't seem to lumber as much, and actually looks quite fluid.

[Psubs]

Can someone explain to me why Vernon Carey is projected to go 10th in this year's draft? Whenever I watch Duke play, I always come away unimpressed by this kid.

I remember checking out advanced stats in college a few days ago and his name popped up a lot for big men. I can't remember the exact stats and I'm not near a computer at the moment, so I'm basically saying a lot of nothing. But maybe advanced stats are why

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I mean he's scoring 28 points per 40 on a really good 2pt% (and overall ts%) so yeah...good "advanced stats" he does have. 14.3 rebounds 2 plus blocks per 40.

He's 270 **** pounds.

I guess they figure he'll be Jahlil Okafor 2.0. Who has improved to become an average NBA player.

[JShuttlesworth]

I remember checking out advanced stats in college a few days ago and his name popped up a lot for big men. I can't remember the exact stats and I'm not near a computer at the moment, so I'm basically saying a lot of nothing. But maybe advanced stats are why

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I mean he's scoring 28 points per 40 on a really good 2pt% (and overall ts%) so yeah...good "advanced stats" he does have. 14.3 rebounds 2 plus blocks per 40.

He's 270 **** pounds.

I guess they figure he'll be Jahlil Okafor 2.0. Who has improved to become an average NBA player.

I can see Vernon slipping out of the lottery. I've watched a bunch of footage on him and haven't been impressed either. The college game is so different than the NBA, you have to factor in how the game is played in the NBA when projecting NBA talent.

[Psubs]

I mean he's scoring 28 points per 40 on a really good 2pt% (and overall ts%) so yeah...good "advanced stats" he does have. 14.3 rebounds 2 plus blocks per 40.

He's 270 **** pounds.

I guess they figure he'll be Jahlil Okafor 2.0. Who has improved to become an average NBA player.

I can see Vernon slipping out of the lottery. I've watched a bunch of footage on him and haven't been impressed either. The college game is so different than the NBA, you have to factor in how the game is played in the NBA when projecting NBA talent.

I can see Houston picking him up around #21. Boston should have a good look and shouldn't drop past Toronto at #28.

He looks like a high floor, low ceiling pick. If he drops a bit of weight and becomes more agile, would be a steal late in the 1st round.

[HeadtopChunes]

I guess they figure he'll be Jahlil Okafor 2.0. Who has improved to become an average NBA player.

I can see Vernon slipping out of the lottery. I've watched a bunch of footage on him and haven't been impressed either. The college game is so different than the NBA, you have to factor in how the game is played in the NBA when projecting NBA talent.

I can see Houston picking him up around #21. Boston should have a good look and shouldn't drop past Toronto at #28.

He looks like a high floor, low ceiling pick. If he drops a bit of weight and becomes more agile, would be a steal late in the 1st round.

Like some of us discussed in that thread about our defense I think we need to target guys who have the motor and iq to thrive with Nurses defensive schemes

Offensive limitations aside it’s why I’d rather avoid low iq players who can’t function in that system which is one of our biggest strengths as a team

[BoyzNTheHood]

Tyler Bey is a good player man. Take the game against Oregon State as an example. Tyler was asked to guard Tres Tinkle who is regarded as one of the best scorers in college basketball. Tyler held Tres to 3-15 shooting, while also putting up 21/15 himself on only 10 FGA.

This kid's a gamer. That motor is his major skill.

[HeadtopChunes]

Tyler Bey is a good player man. Take the game against Oregon State as an example. Tyler was asked to guard Tres Tinkle who is regarded as one of the best scorers in college basketball. Tyler held Tres to 3-15 shooting, while also putting up 21/15 himself on only 10 FGA.

This kid's a gamer. That motor is his major skill.

ESPN has both him and Xavier Tillman at 58 and 59 today

Both guys id heavily consider using our first one

Major steal potential there

[BoyzNTheHood]

Tyler Bey is a good player man. Take the game against Oregon State as an example. Tyler was asked to guard Tres Tinkle who is regarded as one of the best scorers in college basketball. Tyler held Tres to 3-15 shooting, while also putting up 21/15 himself on only 10 FGA.

This kid's a gamer. That motor is his major skill.

ESPN has both him and Xavier Tillman at 58 and 59 today

Both guys id heavily consider using our first one

Major steal potential there

Definitely. It makes no sense for them to be ranked so low. These aren't guys who are based on a ton of potential so there's a low chance they become busts unless a team completely misuses them.

Tyler Bey also led me to McKinley Wright. I haven't seen his name mentioned in draft circles but that kid can play. I must be missing something...

[HeadtopChunes]

Tyler Bey is a good player man. Take the game against Oregon State as an example. Tyler was asked to guard Tres Tinkle who is regarded as one of the best scorers in college basketball. Tyler held Tres to 3-15 shooting, while also putting up 21/15 himself on only 10 FGA.

This kid's a gamer. That motor is his major skill.

ESPN has both him and Xavier Tillman at 58 and 59 today

Both guys id heavily consider using our first one

Major steal potential there

Definitely. It makes no sense for them to be ranked so low. These aren't guys who are based on a ton of potential so there's a low chance they become busts unless a team completely misuses them.

Tyler Bey also led me to McKinley Wright. I haven't seen his name mentioned in draft circles but that kid can play. I must be missing something...

yeah, they aren't big hype guys but both are among the smartest defenders in the class. I bet both are drafted higher than that though.

I can't say too much about Wright but a 6ft older point guard means he probably wont get drafted due to how plentiful the position is.