Jason Tatum: I'm going to average over 20, make the All Star team, and the Celtics are going to the finals

[Fantaxp7]

Does that help the sting when you think about Giannis humiliating your team?

You guys beat us pretty badly last season. Thank you for forcing Kyrie to leave Boston. It's too bad your "historical" team couldn't finish the job and ended up losing to Toronto. You guys are right up there with the 2016 Warriors - best team to have not won a title. Fantastic.

The Celtics got bailed out by awful ownership once again by getting Kemba for free. They'll be punished in the playoffs by their lack of size. Good choice not to resign Horford at that price though.

Remind me again how many 24 year old MVP's won a title? I'll wait

We're not paying him?

If anything you can thank ownership for making Boston a destination that Kemba preferred, because that's what happened. He chose to come here.

[GiannisAnte34]

You guys beat us pretty badly last season. Thank you for forcing Kyrie to leave Boston. It's too bad your "historical" team couldn't finish the job and ended up losing to Toronto. You guys are right up there with the 2016 Warriors - best team to have not won a title. Fantastic.

The Celtics got bailed out by awful ownership once again by getting Kemba for free. They'll be punished in the playoffs by their lack of size. Good choice not to resign Horford at that price though.

Remind me again how many 24 year old MVP's won a title? I'll wait

Will you be changing your username when Giannis leaves Milwaukee? Or will you just follow him franchise to franchise?

While you have your crystal ball out, can you tell us which team Giannis leaves Milwaukee to go to?

[Feed Your Head]

The Celtics got bailed out by awful ownership once again by getting Kemba for free. They'll be punished in the playoffs by their lack of size. Good choice not to resign Horford at that price though.

Remind me again how many 24 year old MVP's won a title? I'll wait

Will you be changing your username when Giannis leaves Milwaukee? Or will you just follow him franchise to franchise?

While you have your crystal ball out, can you tell us which team Giannis leaves Milwaukee to go to?

The Raps, most likely. All depends on what the Bucks do this postseason, IMO.

[GiannisAnte34]

You guys beat us pretty badly last season. Thank you for forcing Kyrie to leave Boston. It's too bad your "historical" team couldn't finish the job and ended up losing to Toronto. You guys are right up there with the 2016 Warriors - best team to have not won a title. Fantastic.

The Celtics got bailed out by awful ownership once again by getting Kemba for free. They'll be punished in the playoffs by their lack of size. Good choice not to resign Horford at that price though.

Remind me again how many 24 year old MVP's won a title? I'll wait

We're not paying him?

If anything you can thank ownership for making Boston a destination that Kemba preferred, because that's what happened. He chose to come here.

After a team featuring Terry Rozier decided not to extend their home grown star. What is there not to get here? Charlotte dropped the ball. Or are you saying Charlotte did the smart thing by letting their home grown star walk?

[GiannisAnte34]

Will you be changing your username when Giannis leaves Milwaukee? Or will you just follow him franchise to franchise?

While you have your crystal ball out, can you tell us which team Giannis leaves Milwaukee to go to?

The Raps, most likely. All depends on what the Bucks do this postseason, IMO.

Yea we all know that winning a Championship is the deciding factor for staying, right Toronto?

Do you even hear youself? LMFAO you're delusional

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

The Celtics got bailed out by awful ownership once again by getting Kemba for free. They'll be punished in the playoffs by their lack of size. Good choice not to resign Horford at that price though.

Remind me again how many 24 year old MVP's won a title? I'll wait

Will you be changing your username when Giannis leaves Milwaukee? Or will you just follow him franchise to franchise?

While you have your crystal ball out, can you tell us which team Giannis leaves Milwaukee to go to?

Toronto.

[Feed Your Head]

While you have your crystal ball out, can you tell us which team Giannis leaves Milwaukee to go to?

The Raps, most likely. All depends on what the Bucks do this postseason, IMO.

Yea we all know that winning a Championship is the deciding factor for staying, right Toronto?

Do you even hear youself? LMFAO you're delusional

I'm not a Raptors fan, we are screwed in regards to having to face him either way. Just my feeling.

And no i don't hear myself, as I'm typing. So how am i delusional?

[Fantaxp7]

The Celtics got bailed out by awful ownership once again by getting Kemba for free. They'll be punished in the playoffs by their lack of size. Good choice not to resign Horford at that price though.

Remind me again how many 24 year old MVP's won a title? I'll wait

We're not paying him?

If anything you can thank ownership for making Boston a destination that Kemba preferred, because that's what happened. He chose to come here.

After a team featuring Terry Rozier decided not to extend their home grown star. What is there not to get here? Charlotte dropped the ball. Or are you saying Charlotte did the smart thing by letting their home grown star walk?

The Celtics awful ownership made a team attractive to Kemba to want to play here. He could have signed anywhere else.

[GiannisAnte34]

We're not paying him?

If anything you can thank ownership for making Boston a destination that Kemba preferred, because that's what happened. He chose to come here.

After a team featuring Terry Rozier decided not to extend their home grown star. What is there not to get here? Charlotte dropped the ball. Or are you saying Charlotte did the smart thing by letting their home grown star walk?

The Celtics awful ownership made a team attractive to Kemba to want to play here. He could have signed anywhere else.

I said the Celtics benefited from awful ownership by Charlotte. Just like they benefited from awful ownership by New Jersey.

Charlotte low balled Kemba - Celtics benefited. This a very straight forward point I'm making.

[skones]

The Raps, most likely. All depends on what the Bucks do this postseason, IMO.

Yea we all know that winning a Championship is the deciding factor for staying, right Toronto?

Do you even hear youself? LMFAO you're delusional

I'm not a Raptors fan, we are screwed in regards to having to face him either way. Just my feeling.

And no i don't hear myself, as I'm typing. So how am i delusional?

People actually thinking that Giannis leaves for Toronto continues to be hilarious. You only have this mountain of evidence and ridiculous consistency as to the person he is, yet some sit there and want to act like he's not a complete unicorn of a player with a unicorn of an upbringing that clashes with the AAU pampering and buddy system these stars who leave have always had. If Milwaukee loses, the line of thinking will not be, "I don't have enough around me" it will be, "I wasn't good enough, I need to get better," because that's how he's wired.

It's fine, you only have about 5 more months of throwing that type of **** against the wall before you all sit down and take your Ls.

[MagicBagley18]

The Celtics got bailed out by awful ownership once again by getting Kemba for free. They'll be punished in the playoffs by their lack of size. Good choice not to resign Horford at that price though.

Remind me again how many 24 year old MVP's won a title? I'll wait

Will you be changing your username when Giannis leaves Milwaukee? Or will you just follow him franchise to franchise?

While you have your crystal ball out, can you tell us which team Giannis leaves Milwaukee to go to?

Not paying horford what philly is paying him is an absolute blessing in disguise. That contract is an albatross and this time next year will he be one of the worst in the league. if he came back for cheap? Yes you’d have a point but no for his annual salary philly is paying him.

[celticfan42487]

Am I crazy to think Tatum could end up being the best player in the Eastern Conference playoffs this year?.

Yes

But why is it crazy? Seems like a lot of folks thought it was crazy to say he'd be as good as he is now, yet here we are.

The reigning MVP of the league. Who's team has the best record in the NBA on a history 70 game win pace.

[GiannisAnte34]

The Raps, most likely. All depends on what the Bucks do this postseason, IMO.

Yea we all know that winning a Championship is the deciding factor for staying, right Toronto?

Do you even hear youself? LMFAO you're delusional

I'm not a Raptors fan, we are screwed in regards to having to face him either way. Just my feeling.

And no i don't hear myself, as I'm typing. So how am i delusional?

Internal voice, when you do things like reading or thinking. Not that difficult of a concept. In the future I'll talk to you like you're 5 if that helps

[MagicBagley18]

After a team featuring Terry Rozier decided not to extend their home grown star. What is there not to get here? Charlotte dropped the ball. Or are you saying Charlotte did the smart thing by letting their home grown star walk?

The Celtics awful ownership made a team attractive to Kemba to want to play here. He could have signed anywhere else.

I said the Celtics benefited from awful ownership by Charlotte. Just like they benefited from awful ownership by New Jersey.

Charlotte low balled Kemba - Celtics benefited. This a very straight forward point I'm making.

Did we put a gun to his head and force him to sign in Boston or is it possible our organization, coach, future, was all apart of why he came here?

[madmaxmedia]

It's designed for the house to always make money by charging fees regardless of outcome and balancing the books. I work for an oddsmaker, we 100% set the odds based off of most likely outcome. Sportsbooks will take those odds and shade them accordingly based on betting patterns and amount of money they currently have on their books, but the swings aren't massive because it doesn't benefit them in the long-run. Initial lines are shaded the most and they'll get much tighter by the time we hit the start of the regular season.

So, no the lines are not 100% based on the most likely outcome, but the deviation will not be greater than 10% from what the consensus is (trap lines are a myth).

Hey I have a question for you- do you ever see particular types of bettors that seem to make money over the long haul?

Understanding that lines are set based on the actual contests themselves but then adjusted as you say, I feel like it's in those swings that serious bettors try to find an edge here and there? I think that's they mean by 'smart money', money that often comes in right as a line is set. I imagine you're only talking say 2 or maybe 3 points at the very most in a NFL game, nothing is going to be big of a swing.

The other type of serious betting I hear about is being an expert on a mid-major level NCAA league. The rationale is that the betting public isn't going to be as knowledgeable and is often going to bet known or sentimental favorites, and it might be easier to find good betting opportunities.

I use to gamble a lot 5 years ago. This is exactly what I did.

My local book would post their lines before USA at 7am each morning. USA would release all their lines at 8am (cant remember the exact times) and my local book wouldn't update until 9am. Their will be a few games with large discrepancies about + or - 5. So what I did for example was, if my local book has Lakers to beat Clippers -6 but I check USA odds and they have it as Lakers -1.

I go in early and bet $150 usd on Clippers +6. Sat and wait until the odds changed and bet $150 USD on Lakers -1. If Lakers won by 2-5, both tickets won profiting $270. If they win by less than 2 or more than 5 then 1 ticket wins and I am only out $15.

This would win more often times than not. For me to lose it would take 19 tries before I lost.

there was once where my local bookie was way off back in 2011 I believe. They had a Grizzlies game over/under 200.5 while USA had it at 176.5. I took all my savings and placed it on under only. Game ended with a total of 163 points. This was back in university so "all my savings" wasn't that much roughly $800 usd.

Thanks for the reply! That makes a lot of sense, betting on both sides of that differential. I think for real sports bettors it comes down to stuff like that, and only rarely loading up on huge 1-way bets that you really feel strongly about. I do remember one time being at a book in Vegas during NBA playoffs, the announcers are talking about Charles Barkley being really hurt and barely being able to lift his arm, we all rushed to the counter to bet on the Barkley under for the game until they stopped taking bets on it. The game ended up going to 2OT and the under barely covered.

[GiannisAnte34]

The Celtics awful ownership made a team attractive to Kemba to want to play here. He could have signed anywhere else.

I said the Celtics benefited from awful ownership by Charlotte. Just like they benefited from awful ownership by New Jersey.

Charlotte low balled Kemba - Celtics benefited. This a very straight forward point I'm making.

Did we put a gun to his head and force him to sign in Boston or is it possible our organization, coach, future, was all apart of why he came here?

It's called order of operations. You multiply and divide before you add and subtract. Before Kemba could "see the attractiveness of Boston" he had to get screwed by Charlotte first. If Charlotte ponied up the Supermax or even by Kemba's OWN WORDS he would have accepted a paycut if he felt it were reasonable. They (Charlotte) lowballed him too much (100 million apart from the Supermax)

[MagicBagley18]

I said the Celtics benefited from awful ownership by Charlotte. Just like they benefited from awful ownership by New Jersey.

Charlotte low balled Kemba - Celtics benefited. This a very straight forward point I'm making.

Did we put a gun to his head and force him to sign in Boston or is it possible our organization, coach, future, was all apart of why he came here?

It's called order of operations. You multiply and divide before you add and subtract. Before Kemba could "see the attractiveness of Boston" he had to get screwed by Charlotte first. If Charlotte ponied up the Supermax or even by Kemba's OWN WORDS he would have accepted a paycut if he felt it were reasonable. They (Charlotte) lowballed him too much (100 million apart from the Supermax)

Yea. And Dallas and other destinations wanted him? Since your so good about logistics let me ask has anyone ever of significance ever said I’m going to Milwaukee to play for the bucks in free agency? . Again I realize I’m on dangerous ground here because bucks fans know all about bad ownership up until recently.

So team x messes up and yet he had several places to consider and he chose Boston- yet we lucked into it. Sound logic.

[Fantaxp7]

Does that help the sting when you think about Giannis humiliating your team?

You guys beat us pretty badly last season. Thank you for forcing Kyrie to leave Boston. It's too bad your "historical" team couldn't finish the job and ended up losing to Toronto. You guys are right up there with the 2016 Warriors - best team to have not won a title. Fantastic.

The Celtics got bailed out by awful ownership once again by getting Kemba for free. They'll be punished in the playoffs by their lack of size. Good choice not to resign Horford at that price though.

Remind me again how many 24 year old MVP's won a title? I'll wait

This reads at first like you are criticizing Boston's ownership. Especially given the other poster mentioning Kyrie above and leaving... My bad if that wasn't the case.

[GiannisAnte34]

Did we put a gun to his head and force him to sign in Boston or is it possible our organization, coach, future, was all apart of why he came here?

It's called order of operations. You multiply and divide before you add and subtract. Before Kemba could "see the attractiveness of Boston" he had to get screwed by Charlotte first. If Charlotte ponied up the Supermax or even by Kemba's OWN WORDS he would have accepted a paycut if he felt it were reasonable. They (Charlotte) lowballed him too much (100 million apart from the Supermax)

Yea. And Dallas and other destinations wanted him? Since your so good about logistics let me ask has anyone ever of significance ever said I’m going to Milwaukee to play for the bucks in free agency? . Again I realize I’m on dangerous ground here because bucks fans know all about bad ownership up until recently.

So team x messes up and yet he had several places to consider and he chose Boston- yet we lucked into it. Sound logic.

It was lucky for all of the teams that had the chance to pick him up without giving up any assets.

[MagicBagley18]

It's called order of operations. You multiply and divide before you add and subtract. Before Kemba could "see the attractiveness of Boston" he had to get screwed by Charlotte first. If Charlotte ponied up the Supermax or even by Kemba's OWN WORDS he would have accepted a paycut if he felt it were reasonable. They (Charlotte) lowballed him too much (100 million apart from the Supermax)

Yea. And Dallas and other destinations wanted him? Since your so good about logistics let me ask has anyone ever of significance ever said I’m going to Milwaukee to play for the bucks in free agency? . Again I realize I’m on dangerous ground here because bucks fans know all about bad ownership up until recently.

So team x messes up and yet he had several places to consider and he chose Boston- yet we lucked into it. Sound logic.

It was lucky for all of the teams that had the chance to pick him up without giving up any assets.

Just like it’s lucky for a franchise that hasn’t accomplished anything ever, whose been ran historically very poorly to find a generational talent from another side of the world with the 13th pick of the nba draft.